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I know it's not easy to come up with witty repartee in a huge televised media spectacle like this, but I was brainstorming a lot of potential responses to some of his attempts at epic burns. She might have accused him of opening an American Bastille. She better be ready in the last debate to strike back.
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Dude twice in a row Trump was asked point-blank at what point his behavior changed from what was shown on the most recent tape, and both times he very noticeably avoided answering the question. Right then and there I knew that he was hosed, it basically cemented the tapes as a HUGE loving PROBLEM in the minds of everyone who's not a 4chan poster
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:Is anybody going to be watching the 3rd? I mean, I won't be, for the stated fremdschamen reasons, but you bet your rear end I'll be here for the hot takes
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Augus posted:Missed this, what happened? Anytime the tape came up Corey scrambled and tried to talk about ISIS instead (basically what Trump did but whinier), and also gave a boys-will-be-boys excuse.
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I listened to it on the radio so maybe I have the Nixon Kennedy perspective on it. I thought he did ok pressing his points at first. The tone of his voice sounded calm and reasonable, but about halfway in he seemed to come off the rails again and his New York accent came in much more pronounced. He sounded like a used car salesman. Also man I wish Clinton had dunked on him when he was making that stupid point about Hillary not changing the laws when she was senator. All it would have taken was a "maybe you don't know how the government actually works" kind of line. Also, listening to chapo trap house has ruined Clinton for me. All I can hear is the democrat voice
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Polygynous posted:12(?) dumbest people in Ohio on CNN now update: it was more like 20, and SPOILER most of them are still undecided
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Evil Fluffy posted:I would love to see footage of Pence when Trump openly disagreed with him and said they haven't spoke recently. i want to believe that any time they're in the same room, donald refuses to speak to pence directly, but has to have somebody else in the room say it to mike for him.
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Polygynous posted:update: it was more like 20, and SPOILER most of them are still undecided Spoiler spoiler: if they're still undecided they're either lying or not gonna vote.
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Donkwich posted:Anytime the tape came up Corey scrambled and tried to talk about ISIS instead (basically what Trump did but whinier), and also gave a boys-will-be-boys excuse. As a boy, gently caress this poo poo. I'm sick of sexist shitheads claiming that 'yeah all men do it what's the big deal'. I don't! The men I hang out with don't! gently caress these people.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I listened to it on the radio so maybe I have the Nixon Kennedy perspective on it. I thought he did ok pressing his points at first. The tone of his voice sounded calm and reasonable, but about halfway in he seemed to come off the rails again and his New York accent came in much more pronounced. He sounded like a used car salesman. I thought that the veto power line worked well to that effect
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Lamb Chowder posted:I know it's not easy to come up with witty repartee in a huge televised media spectacle like this, but I was brainstorming a lot of potential responses to some of his attempts at epic burns. She might have accused him of opening an American Bastille. She better be ready in the last debate to strike back. She doesn't seem to be able to respond well in the moment. She has canned attacks and canned, good responses to certain questions, but she's leaving tons of damage on the table.
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trash person posted:Why is he doubling down on that talking point? Like, Trump is still poo poo but there is effective campaigning his team could have built on from that debate. It's almost like Trump and his followers are all a bunch of deluded retards
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lock clinton in a hyperbolic time chamber with the nations best rap battlers, so she can dish out some turn arounds and ad libbed disses
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QuarkJets posted:I thought that the veto power line worked well to that effect It's hard to simultaneously say "I only had so much influence" on the one hand and then promise to do all sorts of stuff "if I become president" on the other. She has to simply stand by her record rather than get into excuses. EDIT: The American people want leadership, not patronizing old people with talk but no action. Trump's attacks of "well why didn't you do anything?" resonate because people know Hillary is a lying politician who focuses more on scratching the backs of donors than those of the American people. Amergin fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Oct 10, 2016 |
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Ciaphas posted:I should know better than to be absolutely faithful about this sort of thing but I really really want to believe Dread Abuela puppetmastered a good-not-great 2nd debate win just so she could annihilate the 3rd There was no Machado moment when she has literally volumes of opposition research to drop bombs on him all ducking day. She pulled her punches and Trump only poo poo his pants instead of having exploding diarrhea as a result.
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Amergin posted:She doesn't seem to be able to respond well in the moment. She has canned attacks and canned, good responses to certain questions, but she's leaving tons of damage on the table. Townhall isn't her best format, and she definitely flubbed some answers and missed opportunities. Still, based on the best knowledge we have now, she won handily. Turns out lowered expectations only work in debates if you can actually raise those expectations... you know, at some point. Persistently low expectations aren't good - real shocking.
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Lamb Chowder posted:I know it's not easy to come up with witty repartee in a huge televised media spectacle like this, but I was brainstorming a lot of potential responses to some of his attempts at epic burns. She might have accused him of opening an American Bastille. She better be ready in the last debate to strike back. People. People. Amergin is right, I want to grab and shake you. Who the gently caress: 1) is an undecided voter 2) knows what the Bastille is Jesus Christ
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Night10194 posted:As a boy, gently caress this poo poo. I'm sick of sexist shitheads claiming that 'yeah all men do it what's the big deal'. I don't! The men I hang out with don't! gently caress these people. I know its not true, but the insistence over and over does kinda make a little bit of the back of your brain think "maybe that is how all the guys I know talk as soon as you're not around" kinda thing. I think that kinda sums up why their deflection by saying "everyone does it its just locker room talk" is seriously a backfire.
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speng31b posted:Townhall isn't her best format, and she definitely flubbed some answers and missed opportunities. Still, based on the best knowledge we have now, she won handily. Turns out lowered expectations only work in debates if you can actually raise those expectations... you know, at some point. Persistently low expectations aren't good - real shocking. I dont understand why we have town halls. This is a room of the dumbest people in America, undecided voters, and we think its a good idea to surround the candidates with them and let them ask questions. I'm proud that Coopy-baby didn't let them talk all that much.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I listened to it on the radio so maybe I have the Nixon Kennedy perspective on it. I thought he did ok pressing his points at first. The tone of his voice sounded calm and reasonable, but about halfway in he seemed to come off the rails again and his New York accent came in much more pronounced. He sounded like a used car salesman. She said maybe you don't know about a thing called a Veto though
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woke wedding drone posted:People. People. Amergin is right, I want to grab and shake you. Amergin is re-purposing right-wing forum posts and posting them here, then taking our responses and posting them elsewhere.
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sarmhan posted:Amergin is re-purposing right-wing forum posts and posting them here, then taking our responses and posting them elsewhere. good
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Btw hot take. During the debate I asked my almost four year old son who he would rather have as president. He chose Hilary.
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You can tell CNN knew they were running over but by God they were going to end the debate on that "CAN'T WE HUG IT OUT" bullshit question no matter the time.
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:Did you ever see what happened when that motherfucker tried to fly a plane
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speng31b posted:Townhall isn't her best format, and she definitely flubbed some answers and missed opportunities. Still, based on the best knowledge we have now, she won handily. Turns out lowered expectations only work in debates if you can actually raise those expectations... you know, at some point. Persistently low expectations aren't good - real shocking. The polls don't tell me who I think won, and I would encourage hesitation on reacting to polls this early/quickly after the debate, especially if the polls support not who you think won the debate but who you hope won the debate. Don't be going all Romney circlejerking over polls prematurely, now.
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The other weird thing to me besides Donnie not knowing what a Senator does is him claiming that Hillary was responsible for the Birther movement? Like, what? Really? What the loving hell, man. 
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speng31b posted:Townhall isn't her best format, and she definitely flubbed some answers and missed opportunities. Still, based on the best knowledge we have now, she won handily. Turns out lowered expectations only work in debates if you can actually raise those expectations... you know, at some point. Persistently low expectations aren't good - real shocking.
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sarmhan posted:Amergin is re-purposing right-wing forum posts and posting them here, then taking our responses and posting them elsewhere. Yes, he's mastered one of our styles. But try my mantis style.
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disjoe posted:You can tell CNN knew they were running over but by God they were going to end the debate on that "CAN'T WE HUG IT OUT" bullshit question no matter the time. "Hillary. Before we go. Say something nice about Trump. Do it."  
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BaDandy posted:The other weird thing to me besides Donnie not knowing what a Senator does is him claiming that Hillary was responsible for the Birther movement? Like, what? Really? What the loving hell, man. It was started by her supporters in 2008, and supported by low level staffers (who were quickly fired)
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BaDandy posted:The other weird thing to me besides Donnie not knowing what a Senator does is him claiming that Hillary was responsible for the Birther movement? Like, what? Really? What the loving hell, man. Which he didn't. At all.
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Also she didn't ruthlessly dunk on Trump when he predictably brought up Bill, like everyone thought she would. She whiffed it. She didn't lose this debate, or at least she didn't lose the debate enough to make any difference, but she didn't shut down the Trump campaign, either. This was a disappointing performance from Hillary.
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It really is weird how cursory the town hall format has become. town hall debate:actual town hall::foil fencing:dueling
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Kilroy posted:Also she didn't ruthlessly dunk on Trump when he predictably brought up Bill, like everyone thought she would. She whiffed it.
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Amergin posted:The polls don't tell me who I think won, and I would encourage hesitation on reacting to polls this early/quickly after the debate, especially if the polls support not who you think won the debate but who you hope won the debate. I not only take the polls with a grain of salt, I take the implication that "winning a debate" is meaningful pretty lightly. What you quoted me saying is still completely accurate - based on what we know now, it's true.
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BaDandy posted:The other weird thing to me besides Donnie not knowing what a Senator does is him claiming that Hillary was responsible for the Birther movement? Like, what? Really? What the loving hell, man. It really doesn't matter to the people he's trying to get to vote for him. Either he manages to lie and trick them to get them on board with his crazy poo poo or his own supporters start concocting crazy poo poo up to justify his comments in the wake of the scandal. And if that fails? Well, the man's an industrialized scandal machine. To the media that'll be yesterday's news.
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