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Greatest ROH Champion
This poll is closed.
Lethal 28 47.46%
Rowe 1 1.69%
HANSON 17 28.81%
Pitbull 13 22.03%
Total: 59 votes
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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Spermgod posted:

Moose too

ACH and Cedric were totally misused but they pushed Moose pretty hard. They did so in the face of a large portion of the fanbase rejecting him and did it for nearly 2 years straight. He was featured pretty consistently, and then they didn't try very hard to retain him. Moose is a very weird case and there's definitely better examples of possible racial bias in ROH's booking.

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EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Did Moose even get a shot at the ROH World Title

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

No

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Doesn't explain Jay Lethal, though.


Although didn't Delirious say he intentionally put black wrestlers with Veda Scott because he knew it would piss off racists?

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Bill Watts was close friends with Ernie Ladd.

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary
They did a bit where Kenny King took a knee like Kaepernick and got beaten up for it so yeah, Delerious is probably a racist

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

rovert posted:

Bill Watts was close friends with Ernie Ladd.

:drat:

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

notes on ROH's African American wrestlers:
Jay Lethal- been with the company forever, only left because TNA's money was better. 4th longest reigning ROH World Champion. Longest reigning Television Champ
Moose- pretty much written off from the jump that he's headed to WWE. Inexplicably ends up in TNA because...?
ACH- missed a flight playing pokemon, considered unreliable
Cedric Alexander- injuries derailing each push attempt

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

coconono posted:

notes on ROH's African American wrestlers:
Jay Lethal- been with the company forever, only left because TNA's money was better. 4th longest reigning ROH World Champion. Longest reigning Television Champ
Moose- pretty much written off from the jump that he's headed to WWE. Inexplicably ends up in TNA because...?
ACH- missed a flight playing pokemon, considered unreliable
Cedric Alexander- injuries derailing each push attempt

You forgot Kenny King, who bailed on ROH after they put the tag belts on him for TNA/stripping. And is somehow back in the company anyways.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

El Gallinero Gros posted:

You forgot Kenny King, who bailed on ROH after they put the tag belts on him for TNA/stripping. And is somehow back in the company anyways.

I don't think ROH or TNA are properly equipped to match Chippendale's blowjobs and tips clause

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/QaraKoyunlu/status/763934368184184834

https://twitter.com/epitasis/status/590964320357457920

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
Maybe delirious isn't racist, but in fact just stupid

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

coconono posted:

notes on ROH's African American wrestlers:
Jay Lethal- been with the company forever, only left because TNA's money was better. 4th longest reigning ROH World Champion. Longest reigning Television Champ
Moose- pretty much written off from the jump that he's headed to WWE. Inexplicably ends up in TNA because...?
ACH- missed a flight playing pokemon, considered unreliable
Cedric Alexander- injuries derailing each push attempt

Caprice Coleman?

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
How African Americans are treated and spoken to in ROH/Sinclair IS an issue. When talents do ultimately speak out it is an emotional type out burst. Whether it is ACH at AAW this weekend, Lio Rush on Twitter two weeks ago or Cedric's speech at PWX a while ago:

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/8/22/12579112/cedric-alexander-ring-of-honor-nearly-quit-wrestling-video-goodbye-pwx

Racism is a complex issue in a zillion ways. ROH should be commended for how they pushed Jay Lethal but at the same time it doesn't mean they can't be a racist company nor does it absolve them of discriminating on the grounds of race with others. It is a heavy accusation to make and I don't raise it lightly at all. I recognise that I am not the ideal spokesperson on the matter but the Wrestlers themselves would likely face repercussions career wise if they spoke out about it fully. The situation sucks.

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice
I wonder how much of the issue lies with Delirious' personal prejudices or SBG's reallllly sketchy corporate politics. I was looking to move from freelance production to a more stable tv news gig a year back and SBG had an opening, but their politics and how they push it onto employees pushed me away from applying.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Anyways that's one issue with ROH there's some Caucasian as gently caress dudes leaving too. Hyped for the next few months as everyone in Wrestling slowly moves to Florida for WWE or to try and get into WWE.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

that sounds bad, actually

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
lest we forget this just happened

BlueArmyMan
Mar 30, 2007
Hooloovoo

Hace posted:

Maybe delirious isn't racist, but in fact just stupid

Not necessarily mutually exclusive.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Spermgod posted:

lest we forget this just happened


I remember making a snarky comment on this on Twitter after seeing it live and someone got mad at me going "IT'S SATIRE!!!! :argh:" yet I bet he would be making GBS threads on it really hard if it was WWE doing it.

I mean it was basically Muhammad Hussan at the Rumble getting his asskicked by everyone for being Muslim

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Spermgod posted:

lest we forget this just happened



Oooooh don't you worry about forgetting that happened, they did it again before and during the two matches they wrestled at the last set of tv tapings

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Was Delirious booking when they gave Jerry Lynn the Randy the Ram treatment?

Germansimp
May 28, 2013



coconono posted:

Was Delirious booking when they gave Jerry Lynn the Randy the Ram treatment?

No, Adam Pearce was head booker back then. Also responsible for putting the World title on Tyler Black waaaay too late when the fans had already soured on him.

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails
Well it makes perfect sense that heels would do a protest when really they have nothing to protest, they're heels because Kaepernick actually does and they're basically mocking him by stealing a legitimate protest for their imaginary heel gripes

but of course yeah, people are going to boo it because AMERICA DAMNIT regardless of the intent

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I think its in poor taste and adds nothing to ANX. But I'm sure Roque can illuminate us on why this is a solid booking decision.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


I thought Jim Cornette left ROH a long time ago.

Roque11
Aug 7, 2016
ROH has been booking some really good match ups on upcoming shows. They're really stepping it up.

Also, ACH to WWE!

https://mobile.twitter.com/noah_ghc/status/785728579313147904

Abrasive Obelisk
May 2, 2013

I joined th
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!
:vince:
he still knows...
Who ever said ACH was going to WWE?

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

Who ever said ACH was going to WWE?

The only one who consistently talks about it is roquert

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

roquert is shadow rovert.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Roque is what would happen if there were a ROHMecca

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

the ach and ishimori team was cool in the noah tourney so I'm glad they will get to work together more

nxt should note that your tag teams dont have to be monoracial

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Chris James 2 posted:

Roque is what would happen if there were a ROHMecca

Frighteningly accurate.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
ACH's ROH contract is up at the end of the year. He can't leave until then.


He has to be pissed TJP stole his gimmick and used it the Fed first tho.

"Hit the pause button"

"No more extra lives"

BlueArmyMan
Mar 30, 2007
Hooloovoo

Super No Vacancy posted:

nxt should note that your tag teams dont have to be monoracial

The main at the house show I went to had a team of dillinger/nakamura fwiw

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

rovert posted:

ACH's ROH contract is up at the end of the year. He can't leave until then.


He has to be pissed TJP stole his gimmick and used it the Fed first tho.

"Hit the pause button"

"No more extra lives"

all pale imitations of the one true otaku, kenny omega

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Chris James 2 posted:

Roque is what would happen if there were a ROHMecca
Oh believe me there is a ROHMecca and if you think you guys are hard on Rov, just imagine a forum of Roques attacking everything that Rovert posts.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

achillesforever6 posted:

just imagine a forum of Roques attacking everything that Rovert posts.

that's called somethingawful

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

yea ok posted:

that's called somethingawful

Thats literally every forum Rovert has posted on tbf

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rovert
Jun 10, 2013

sportsgenius86 posted:

Thats literally every forum Rovert has posted on tbf

True

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