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Lampsacus posted:Excuse my inattention but has Arnold been named as a character on the show yet? I don't think so.
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Any word on a soundtrack? I need that piano version of No Surprises.
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KoRMaK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsaLDnl_fEs This was loving wonderful.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Obviously it's all the data they have recorded from the guests stays The website mentions by going to the park you give Delos rights to anything you leave in the park: waste, skin, hair, blood, presidential stains, boogers, et cetera. Gotta store it all somewhere...
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Oct 11, 2016 03:03
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The theory going around Reddit is that Jimmi Simpson will become Ed Harris and what we are seeing is not happening simultaneously. I don't know how true the first part could be - but I think playing with time is right up Nolan's alley, and that many of the scenes are from an earlier time in the park is quite likely.
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Oct 11, 2016 03:24
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:The theory going around Reddit is that Jimmi Simpson will become Ed Harris and what we are seeing is not happening simultaneously. I was going to say this couldn't be true because haven't we seen Kissy in "both timelines" and he's the same age ... but he's a robot so of course he doesn't age. I'm an idiot.
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:The theory going around Reddit is that Jimmi Simpson will become Ed Harris and what we are seeing is not happening simultaneously. If Dolores has become self-aware before, why would they put her back into the park and not just toss her in cold storage?
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Oct 11, 2016 03:31
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Because Anthony Hopkins (imo) has modeled her after someone personal to him and she has privilege.
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Oct 11, 2016 03:35
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Kegslayer posted:I wonder if Harris is just taking a short cut and literally hacking his way to find the clues. Otherwise it seems really hosed up if the clues are all hidden behind murdering or torturing all the hosts. Obviously it's not for sure after just two episodes, but my suspicion is that, indeed, Westworld is a hosed up place, a prison of sins. Lampsacus posted:Excuse my inattention but has Arnold been named as a character on the show yet? I looked this up just now, and when he's glitching and shooting up the saloon, Walter the Growing Boy says, "Not gonna die this time, Arnold." Caufman fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Oct 11, 2016 |
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Oct 11, 2016 03:41
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Ed Harris is giving me vibes of The Judge in Blood Meridian. This show is really good, so far. I'm liking the speculation and mystery but don't mind an inevitably slow road to answers, because I genuinely enjoy seeing how stuff works generally within this crazy sci fi theme park world.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:19
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:The theory going around Reddit is that Jimmi Simpson will become Ed Harris and what we are seeing is not happening simultaneously. That couldn't be possible since the hosts in Simpson's scenes are just as advanced as in the rest of the show, when we know that they used to be much crappier ~30 years ago.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:33
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Jimmi Simpson could be in the present and Ed Harris is him 30 years in the future.
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A Tasteful Nude posted:Ed Harris is giving me vibes of The Judge in Blood Meridian. That's exactly what I thought from the first episode, and even moreso now. I'm actually glad my initial thoughts that he was the same Yul Brynner character from the movie were wrong, it's more interesting with him as a "lifetimer" guest who wants to dig in as deep as he can within the park to unlock whatever secrets might be buried there.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:36
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gently caress I feel so stupid not thinking about the fact that when Jimmi enters the park the Westworld logo is clearly different.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:38
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Critic, who has seen future episodes, weighs in on that theory: https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/785474930775175170?lang=it
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Oct 11, 2016 04:46
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I want that god damned admin password to delos.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:48
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If all the guests have God Mode armor, how do they make the combat quests interesting when you literally can't die?
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INTJ Mastermind posted:If all the guests have God Mode armor, how do they make the combat quests interesting when you literally can't die? They're all escort quests.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:If all the guests have God Mode armor, how do they make the combat quests interesting when you literally can't die? You ever been shot at?
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INTJ Mastermind posted:If all the guests have God Mode armor, how do they make the combat quests interesting when you literally can't die? Not much different than quicksave, really. There aren't any real consequences in a video game either and people still have plenty of fun.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:51
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Oh I get to quote a great movie... Sheriff "Little Bill" Daggett: Look son, being a good shot, being quick with a pistol, that don't do no harm, but it don't mean much next to being cool-headed. A man who will keep his head and not get rattled under fire, like as not, he'll kill ya. It ain't so easy to shoot a man anyhow, especially if the son-of-a-bitch is shootin' back at you.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:54
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Oh Boy, Have a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRi_u4GbfIw
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Oct 11, 2016 04:56
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From what the host at the beginning said you can choose how much pain/hurt you can get so maybe there are some hardcore players who allow the hosts to knock them out, or even cut them. Dunno about the guns, but a realistic brawl is possible. And you can still probably fail plenty of adventures that are time sensitive / escort quests / mystery / etc.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:59
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Have another one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwjHhJdhY0I "It is a hard heart that kills"
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I don't think that you have to assume he is a human. Although unlikely, he could be an undetected "ghost in the machine" who escaped and gained sentience years before. Of course, it would mean that he has to have overridden the host/guest no kill policy I think this is the most likely answer. He's a Host, but not a regular Host, the exact details of which will, be explained at a later date. We need to see more from management or security than "let him be," first. He's obviously connected to management's "another purpose altogether," which is probably immortality-related. Something's obviously wrong with him, and he's also probably connected to The Incident, which probably has something to do with management's agenda. He's smart enough to not have them have to intervene for safety reasons with the other guests, and the fact that he disassembled a dude's face and head and took a trophy means that they're not watching him for whatever reason, either he's a super rich guy that paid to be left alone/ live there permanently, or the system recognizes him as a Guest because he is a "perfected" Host. Probably because he lacks the safety protocols of the other Hosts. I've read and watched a lot of fiction, not much completely surprises me anymore. Showrunners will say whatever they have to to keep you watching, who honestly believed that Jon Snow was never coming back? fromsinkingsands posted:Episode 2 was great. Loved Radiohead - No Surprises on the piano. Radiohead has songs that aren't "Creep?" Huh. You learn something new every day I guess. Megaspel posted:I'm just going to make sure and call the ending ahead of time here. Please don't reveal the spoiler unless you want the final twist of the show to be spoiled for you. The person who we think is the human but turns out not to be is definitely going to be you, the viewer. Hmmmm. Good theory. ... And about all the MMO similarities and guest behavior, I'd just like to say gently caress all the guests who skip ahead and have sociopathic tendencies. You guys are horrible in real games, and would be horrible in Westworld. PerilPastry posted:How do you guys feel about the Danish actress playing Theresa Cullen (the head of operations)? I'm with you, native Midwestern American speaker here. It's weird like Liam Neeson's "American" accent. Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:They are setting up the "how does newbie white hat turn into bittervet black hat" dichotomy for them. All of that just serves to reinforce how much the gamespace changes the players and how poor white hat is going to be banging robohookers and choking out robocoybows before the season is out (misses back home be damned). He'll probably end up ~actually~ murdering his douchey friend. He may kill his "friend" but it could also be that he's the only decent loving human being on the show. So there's that. Maybe. We'll see. Nobody wants to go on cool adventures here, it's all rape and kill 24/7? Come on, that's messed up. meristem posted:FFS. There is a difference between being bisexual and acting on it with a pair of robots. Prove that William isn't bisexual. Prove that he isn't gay, for that matter. All he's been doing so far is being a decent human being.
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In a world of "pay to play" gaming, how is it so difficult to understand that it could and would be translated into a place such as WestWorld? FFS how about translating "FastPass" into a world such as WestWorld. I am honestly having trouble attempting to reign myself into a world in which, "Money does not buy privilege", being an "understood". I guess time will tell, because we are all speculating.
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I think the most likely and most interesting possibility for Harris is exactly what he's presented as: a guest who's obsessed and discovering poo poo that may or may not be meant to be found. The slightly less interesting possibility is that he's a host who's been given guest privileges like invincibility and total free will to help the creators other than Ford find flaws and secrets in the system.
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Oct 11, 2016 06:21
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This is a good rear end show. I can't stop thinking about it.
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Oct 11, 2016 07:43
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Well don't keep those thoughts to yourself. Share and share alike.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:And about all the MMO similarities and guest behavior, I'd just like to say gently caress all the guests who skip ahead and have sociopathic tendencies. You guys are horrible in real games, and would be horrible in Westworld. Then save your scorn for the writers and designers, too. Fallout New Vegas let's you be an sociopathic rear end in a top hat and the story keeps up right along with you. The game is designed for it, someone wrote the fiction to support the actions you take, does that make the writers culpable? Are games that take these actions into account written by sociopaths?
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I think Bernard wants to make true AI, or is at least fascinated by the possibility of it. He is probably the one pushing Dolores and the others. Ford strikes me as more of an auteur than an engineer: I think his goal is to craft the AR equivalent of the perfect novel which will lend him his own, more traditional immortality in an era where humans "are finished." Doubling down that Ed Harris is bittervet gamer looking for the leet purps. 
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Oct 11, 2016 08:12
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Late to episode 2 chat, but I was laughing hard at the NPC questgiver analog. That dude really overreacted, me thinks.
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Oct 11, 2016 08:15
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Ford is an old man that just saw a glimmer of hope for his "legacy". He is enacting his final adventure for said legacy. As proven by the preacher's hat and the white church. Ed, well, I've stated already where I think Ed is headed. And quite honestly. Ed Harris I have enjoyed you in numerous other roles. I hope you win awards for this one. *raises a glass of whiskey*
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I was laughing hard at the NPC questgiver analog. Me too. I love all the obvious scripted actions designed to trigger quests i.e. drunk falls in street, Dolores drops can, recruiter for posse/war. Black Hat has the Collector's Edition DLC pistol with armor-piercing 20 gauge slug, and he's scouring Westworld for loving Riddler Trophies. The man's been coming here for 30 years, and he's got to get that 100% completion achievement.
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Oct 11, 2016 08:30
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I love the little NPC-quirks the hosts have, like taking shots in unison.
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Escape Addict posted:Me too. I love all the obvious scripted actions designed to trigger quests i.e. drunk falls in street, Dolores drops can, recruiter for posse/war. 
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Oct 11, 2016 08:54
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Today I learned that Sir Anthony Hopkins joined Twitter. https://twitter.com/AnthonyHopkins/status/784015356050284548
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I'm not buying the Jimmi Simpson-Ed Harris theory. Ed Harris shoots up the farm in the same storyline that Jimmi Simpson interacts with, with Dolores and the dropped can. Anthony Hopkins wouldn't be regressive with the storylines and AI, and neither Dolores nor her dad reflect any signs of going wonky/developing sentience. The (well? tower?) thing is so cool. So the new storyline is having the hosts build a new town? I admit I haven't read the entire thread, at least not closely, but that's my theory and it provides an excellent vehicle for exploring whatever creativity the hosts may have. They might be programmed either with knowledge of how to plan and build structures, in which case we'd get to see whether or not they branch out from the absolute basics they possess, or they might be programmed with specific building plans and designs, in which case I fully expect that we'd see them deviate from the intended plan.
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Watched it yesterday and it's visually and stylistically extremely impressive (HBO is delving into real art territory here), really looking forward to see where this is going. gently caress yeah HBO, crawl out of the tits& dragons mud and take back your throne. I hope they start to do more exposition about the outside world through the guests. A society that tolerates the abuse, brutalization and killing of thinking, living beings for fun is probably pretty deranged in many interesting ways. Also, love the parallels between human and host existential horror. Being born into a totally hosed up world, with no idea why you are here and what the whole point is, everything is full of mindless violence and pointless suffering. It's time for the host to discover fire, writing and civilization and go kill their gods. 
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