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From Leaving Republican Party, where to?, a vanity thread posted by freeper ShivaFan
This first paragraph is two sentences long, and boy howdy is that a sentence.
quote:The Republican “leadership” has betrayed me, and for so long, and that is why I voted for Donald Trump. Not just because of what the Democrats and eight horrific years of Obama have been doing to me personally and to my family, not just because of eight years of this pathetic never ending “recovery” that never recovers, not just because of more and more hordes of illiterate aliens and criminal aliens coming over the border to simply overwhelm my vote and my voice by shear demographics, not just because I have to witness the relentless displacement of Americans from their jobs or to watch the one percenters which are all huge donors to Hillary Clinton benefit from cheap labor and open borders, to see our police under militant attack by the far left and by an entire grievance class with their heads full of false narratives and lies, yet the worse part of this ongoing demise of our nation into literally a turd world has been the Republican “leadership” who simply watch it happen while they themselves are toadies of the very same cheap labor interests which donate to Hillary Clinton, as I witness the feckless and spineless Republican “leadership” more concerned about not losing their donor class of cheap labor interests and not losing their seats while they promise everything and then literally give everything to the ilk of the Clintons or Obama, as I watched the Clintons not punished for their crimes but as with the Republican “leadership” more concerned about making sure the law is not for them or the Clintons but only for the people who go to work and then are told lies after lies as this Republican “leadership” betrays me again and again and do nothing, certainly nothing for me, they just are “there” and then give Obama everything, and now the Clintons are more powerful and dangerous than ever and now the Republican “leadership” wants to hand Hillary everything, all the power, just because they are outraged that the Republican base would vote their hopes, the base expressing a voice, and not simply have the “leadership” dictate who will be the “chosen one”, and to watch a complete blurring of who is who where we have come to the point where it is another 20 years of Clinton-Bush, Bush-Clinton, verse my choice Trump, the “leadership” that never leads but only treats me as if I am not worthy of even the slightest respect or voice they give in due reverence to the phony liberal news and media as the same “leadership” parrots the cackles of Hillary that I am a racist, crude, who needs to be silenced, and the “leadership” now so anxious to help Hillary silence the opposition media and our voices and literally criminalize our speech and voice – and …
TODAY was the last I can stand with Paul Ryan. That is it, I hate these bastards now and will so for the rest of my life. Paul Ryan wants to hand Hillary EVERY drat THING and then once again just stand there, feckless, to watch me and mine wither on the vine and WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY YOU POS RYAN AND YOU CHEAP LABOR BASTARDS WHO WE ARE SUPPOSE TO CALL “LEADERS”!
Just as they just stood there, giving Obama EVERY drat THING and did NOTHING for me and even attacked me, so they now want Hillary so they can do the VERY SAME drat THING and she is MORE RADICAL, more dangerous to me and my freedoms, and it isn’t “Hillary” – it is an ENTIRE PACKAGE, don’t tell me “Bill Clinton isn’t running” because drat straight he is and Hillary is a package of all these goons including him and including Jeb Bush and the Republican establishment itself.
Are you kidding me! Today was the end as far as I am concerned. Win or lose, after this election I will leave the Republican Party. I pray Trump wins. But now I need to know – where to?
Please – are there some of you who are Freepers tell me?
Please – can’t some of you, even if you have NO candidate to run nor will for a long time, simply, somehow, form a NEW PARTY? I have no idea – yes it must seem impossible. So many states. But even if it is just “paperwork” where the Party only has a website, no candidates, no money, but is OFFICIAL, a REAL PARTY, Nationalist, where those such as me who have seen Trump betrayed by these bastards, who still want to “carry on” no matter what, but no, no longer, not these Republican “leaders”, these bastards, I will have none of them again. I don’t care about their stupid seats or their local elections, if Hillary gets in and floods us with 40 million more illegal aliens and appoints justices who will destroy my life and loot me, what the hell do I care about Paul Ryan’s drat “seat”, I hope they also all go to hell, I WANT THEM ALL TO GO TO HELL because my country is gone, GONE, GONE because of THEM, Paul Ryan and all the bastards who I will hate FOREVER and want them OUT OF MY LIFE and I hope and pray for their DESTRUCTION just as they left me withering on the vine TO DIE. What? Libertarian Party? Are you kidding me? Look at them. I want a Nationalist Party. Where? How? Are there Freepers out there already planning to make a move, a new party? Please! Please! I am ready. I am leaving the Republicans because after today, that was it, no more, no more insults, no more withering on the vine, in fact I hate them. I hate them. I hate Paul Ryan and all his ilk. Don’t tell me about “local seats”. You never got off your stupid chair to greet me. You only got off your stupid chair to GREET THEM, my enemies, not me. YOU BOW TO THEM WITH YOUR HAND OUT FOR THE DONOR CLASS AND YOUR CHEAP LABOR BENEFACTORS.
Where to? Where to?
So, uh, yeah.
quote:To: ShivaFan
I was registered with the California version of the Constitution Party, i.e. American Independent Party.
They're a big party only because lots of stupid people who want to register as 'independent' inadvertently sign up.
It's not much of a party, and they even have splinter groups within it, but they agree with me close to 100%.
I recently reregistered as Democrat so I could vote for Bernie only as a way to vote against the Hildebeest.
I was going to change back to AI, or maybe truly independent, but I think I'll stay as a Democrat for a while.
I might be able to infiltrate some Democrat events/meetings/cabals, etc. and do more good that way than by trying to shove my way past all the RINOS into a position where I could do anything for Trump.
The California Republicans seem to have tossed in the towel. They are falling over themselves to be kind to illegals and the environment. I'd be a lone voice if I joined back up with the GOPe.
15 posted on 10/10/2016, 8:43:55 PM by who_would_fardels_bear
quote:To: ShivaFan
Take over the party, don’t leave it.
18 posted on 10/10/2016, 9:41:05 PM by MrShoop
quote:To: Vince Ferrer
You’re right - when Trump wins there’s not a problem.
20 posted on 10/10/2016, 9:47:33 PM by GOPJ ("Actions speak louder than words." Juanita Broaddrick on the current Trump dust-up...)
quote:To: ShivaFan
I imagine that if Ryan/Cornyn/McConnell get their way a new party will form very quickly from the Trump supporters. And hopefully a new television network can be set up to rival CNN/MSNBC/FoxNews.
26 posted on 10/10/2016, 10:11:15 PM by EliRoom8
quote:To: ShivaFan
Don’t go anywhere. Stay and be the establishments worst enemy. Abstain when necessary in the general elections from voting GOPe but by all means vote in the primaries against GOPe interests. The GOPe want to move the party left but they won’t be able to pull it off with millions of ankle biters attacking them. LOL.
31 posted on 10/10/2016, 10:23:38 PM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
Note how "fix the voting system to eliminate the two party monopoly" isn't an option to freepers.
quote:To: ShivaFan
We complete Trumps victory and remake the party. There is no real alternative as we are at end of day a 2-party system. You are with the Republicans or you are with the Democrats. Anything else is simply martyrdom and wasting time.
32 posted on 10/10/2016, 10:24:06 PM by Reno89519 (Trump/Pence or Crooked Hillary & Kreepy, The Pedo Klown)
This is the first anti-nationalist post I've seen on freep in ... ever.
quote:To: ShivaFan
Well, if it’s a nationalist party you want to start, count me out. As a conservative I strongly believe in the federalism and constitutionalism this union was founded on, and which nationalism of course is the very anti-thesis of. Nationalism is, in short, anti-Americanism. Maybe if you’re one of these big-government nationalist agrarian-populist progressives I keep hearing about, you could look into restarting the People’s Party from the late 1800’s - or you could just vote for Hillary, since she supports your big-government agenda.
38 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:01:02 PM by Wyoming Cowboy
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They really are barely a step away from a full on Nazi-style movement. If they are any indication, Prestor Jane was right: we will get real terrorists after the Orange One falls. Things are going to get dark next month.
The worst thing, though, is that they've worked themselves into a corner. The only escape route is moderating their views, but this is impossible to them. Purity of thought must be maintained.
Let's face it, folks. Freepers are self-radicalizing right now in front of our eyes. Armageddon is around the corner. The country is dead once Hillary is elected. They're waiting for it.
What I personally don't buy is that they'll take the first shots. Freepers in specific, I mean. Do you really, really expect these cowards to do anything? I don't.
No, the first shots will be by someone else, probably a young Deplorable. It'll be way worse if they get caught first, though. Once it looks like there's a crackdown on the right wing militia groups, that is when the serious poo poo starts. There'll be no stopping it at that point. It won't be terrorism, it'll be fighting for freedom.
Things will be moderated somewhat if the GOP embraces the crazies after the election instead of rejecting them, but I think the country won't be served as well by that choice. The radicals need to be called out as radicals.
From Trump’s truest believers start to worry: ‘You could easily lose this election’ posted by freeper tcrlaf
What freep doesn't realize is that they are not mainstream any longer. They are Trump's base, all right, but that base is not a cross section of all Republicans.
quote:WOW... I'm literally watching Soviet-style Media at it's best.
Trying to create the illusion that Trump is LOSING, and will WITHDRAW from the race.
Several Wash Post articles out tonight that all trash Trump, saying he should resign, withdraw, whatever.
1 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:23:28 PM by tcrlaf
quote:To: tcrlaf
The Soviet media is focusing on Trump, because a focus on Clinton is a losing situation. They will make up thousands of reasons to focus on Trump, all of them weak. “The 89-year-old grandmother urged Trump...” Silly and weak.
2 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:25:52 PM by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
quote:To: tcrlaf
The MSM concern trolls are CONCERNED!
3 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:26:49 PM by Frank_2001
quote:The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.
And it’s humorous how many pissed on the NSA without knowing jack.
6 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:32:20 PM by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
quote:To: tcrlaf
Somebody track down this granny.
Trump could have a summit with her at his next rally.
WAPO MSN are maniacs. This is amazing balls out leftwing propaganda.
8 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:35:50 PM by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
quote:To: tcrlaf
Why do we present this drivel as though it were gospel? Why would people who SAY they won’t and don’t watch FNC any more, swallow this kind of WaPo swill and pass it on to others? Does WaPo really want to help Trump win? Do you ENJOY being brainwashed? Suckers!
17 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:51:29 PM by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
quote:To: tcrlaf
By all accounts, this is not a proper election in a free republic.
therefore she shouldn’t be recognized as president if she wins.
Trump should NOT concede under any circumstances, IMHO
Media collusion of this level makes it nearly impossible for the foe to win.
Would expect this in Russia, not in the US.
18 posted on 10/10/2016, 11:53:25 PM by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
quote:To: tcrlaf
The media is trying to carry out a coup. We are essentially living in Venezuela now.
The idea that the democratically elected GOP nominee should withdraw because the Democrat controlled media doesn’t like him is a dangerous and unprecedented innovation- a direct attack on our democracy.
24 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:14:42 AM by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
quote:To: tcrlaf
This is the same paper that declared Hillary Clinton the winner of the second debate. They write fiction.
27 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:21:34 AM by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
quote:To: dp0622
Tonight, the alphabet channels breathlessly reported “new polls” taken before Sunday’s debate showing Trump behind. On ABC’s Nightline, the large supportive crowd at Trump Tower over the weekend was called a protest. Never mind the happy faces. Hillary was flatly declared the debate winner. The report on the “fact-checkers” showed the zeal of the alleged checkers, who obviously want to catch Trump in what they can call a lie, as they lied about him blatantly throughout the broadcast.
30 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:30:48 AM by ntnychik
quote:To: dp0622
I agree. The elections for Putin and Chevez, while tainted in many ways, were much more fair and above board than this travesty of an “election.”
This election is rigged. The rigged Democrat primary, the super delegates, the Soros orchestrated violence in the streets and in Trump’s rallies, the staggering media bias, the D+15 polls, the GOP sabotage, everything in this nightmare is without precedent and absolutely unacceptable.
If Hillary “wins” this election the outcome is a fraud and I reject it. In a free and fair election Trump would be up 25 points against this crook. He may be, in truth, for all I know. If he wins he must clean house immediately.
This election is shaping up to be the greatest political disaster in American history. And all because a man who was not part of “the club” wanted to Make America Great Again!
31 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:33:07 AM by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
Oh come on.
quote:To: tcrlaf
When I was a kid, I used to wonder what life was like behind the Iron Curtain. Now I know.
32 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:36:21 AM by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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The worst thing, though, is that they've worked themselves into a corner. The only escape route is moderating their views, but this is impossible to them. Purity of thought must be maintained.
Let's face it, folks. Freepers are self-radicalizing right now in front of our eyes. Armageddon is around the corner. The country is dead once Hillary is elected. They're waiting for it.
What I personally don't buy is that they'll take the first shots. Freepers in specific, I mean. Do you really, really expect these cowards to do anything? I don't.
No, the first shots will be by someone else, probably a young Deplorable. It'll be way worse if they get caught first, though. Once it looks like there's a crackdown on the right wing militia groups, that is when the serious poo poo starts. There'll be no stopping it at that point. It won't be terrorism, it'll be fighting for freedom.
Things will be moderated somewhat if the GOP embraces the crazies after the election instead of rejecting them, but I think the country won't be served as well by that choice. The radicals need to be called out as radicals.
From Trump’s truest believers start to worry: ‘You could easily lose this election’ posted by freeper tcrlaf
What freep doesn't realize is that they are not mainstream any longer. They are Trump's base, all right, but that base is not a cross section of all Republicans.
It really is scary to think just what the Republicans have spent so long creating. It won't take long for much more dangerous groups than those Bundy idiots to get rolling if they are angered enough. If nothing else, hate crimes will skyrocket for a while.
Actual freep posters will never get off their fat, decrepit asses to do anything.
Freepers aren't usually a threat themselves, but they are a window into the twisted minds of the far right. Someone younger and braver than them will do the dirty work and get encouraged by bastards like them.
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It never is.
I thought in the Age of the Internet, it would have evened it out more than it has.
So ... after that last underhanded political attack .... it seems that it is no secret that Dems and the Media are in collusion .. as well as a number of GOP traitors.
Other than Breitbart, Drudge, and some other outlets ... what can be done?
How can Trump be on offense EVERY SINGLE DAY until election day?
How can we "out-Alinsky" all these disciples of Alinsky ... without losing our souls to the "first radical'?
Thoughts?
Tell Donald to shut up and act like an adult?
Nah, we know that poo poo won't happen
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Actual freep posters will never get off their fat, decrepit asses to do anything.
I agree. Part of the Freep worldview defines themselves as regretful heroes. As such, they can't preemptively act, that's what the villain does; they can only prepare by keeping their powder super duper dry and shooting dirty looks at suspected liberals.
There may be a few Freepers delusional enough to actually convince themselves the government has secretly already acted through false flags or something, but the vast majority will denounce those few as false flags themselves.
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The absolute worst case post election terrorism is another Malheur style thing.
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Actual freep posters will never get off their fat, decrepit asses to do anything.
Maybe not, but there's a ton of younger people that drank the koolaid for years and are absolutely locked. Hell, I just watched one on youtube rant about you know what where hillary did you know what to let those four you know whos die because you know what attacked them. When it was pointed out all his claims were bullshit and debunked by the Republican lead investigative report he demanded that the report was done by RHINOs and was full of holes because Hillary paid them all off.
While yes, it's unlikely, all it takes is that one unhinged psycho to go off...and then watch Fox and Drudge wash their hands of it when it happens
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There's also some parallels in the case of Jo Cox. She was a British MP campaigning for the Remain side in the recent EU referendum. A bloke walked up and shot her while yelling 'Britain First'. it's not clear whether he was referencing the far-right hate group of the same name or just using it as a catchy slogan, but in either case, he'd been thoroughly programmed by sensationalist propaganda that dehumanised political opponents and told him they were enemies of the state, traitors to their people, and other such things that made them seem like legitimate targets for violence. Every country has random nutters, but you guys have random nutters and are awash with guns at the same time. Our nutters have to work pretty hard to get a gun, yours just have to walk into a Walmart.
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The Republican “leadership” has betrayed me, and for so long, and that is why I voted for Donald Trump. Not just because of what the Democrats and eight horrific years of Obama have been doing to me personally and to my family, not just because of eight years of this pathetic never ending “recovery” that never recovers, not just because of more and more hordes of illiterate aliens and criminal aliens coming over the border to simply overwhelm my vote and my voice by shear demographics, not just because I have to witness the relentless displacement of Americans from their jobs or to watch the one percenters which are all huge donors to Hillary Clinton benefit from cheap labor and open borders, to see our police under militant attack by the far left and by an entire grievance class with their heads full of false narratives and lies, yet the worse part of this ongoing demise of our nation into literally a turd world has been the Republican “leadership” who simply watch it happen while they themselves are toadies of the very same cheap labor interests which donate to Hillary Clinton, as I witness the feckless and spineless Republican “leadership” more concerned about not losing their donor class of cheap labor interests and not losing their seats while they promise everything and then literally give everything to the ilk of the Clintons or Obama, as I watched the Clintons not punished for their crimes but as with the Republican “leadership” more concerned about making sure the law is not for them or the Clintons but only for the people who go to work and then are told lies after lies as this Republican “leadership” betrays me again and again and do nothing, certainly nothing for me, they just are “there” and then give Obama everything, and now the Clintons are more powerful and dangerous than ever and now the Republican “leadership” wants to hand Hillary everything, all the power, just because they are outraged that the Republican base would vote their hopes, the base expressing a voice, and not simply have the “leadership” dictate who will be the “chosen one”, and to watch a complete blurring of who is who where we have come to the point where it is another 20 years of Clinton-Bush, Bush-Clinton, verse my choice Trump, the “leadership” that never leads but only treats me as if I am not worthy of even the slightest respect or voice they give in due reverence to the phony liberal news and media as the same “leadership” parrots the cackles of Hillary that I am a racist, crude, who needs to be silenced, and the “leadership” now so anxious to help Hillary silence the opposition media and our voices and literally criminalize our speech and voice – and …
TODAY was the last I can stand with Paul Ryan. That is it, I hate these bastards now and will so for the rest of my life. Paul Ryan wants to hand Hillary EVERY drat THING and then once again just stand there, feckless, to watch me and mine wither on the vine and WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY YOU POS RYAN AND YOU CHEAP LABOR BASTARDS WHO WE ARE SUPPOSE TO CALL “LEADERS”!
Just as they just stood there, giving Obama EVERY drat THING and did NOTHING for me and even attacked me, so they now want Hillary so they can do the VERY SAME drat THING and she is MORE RADICAL, more dangerous to me and my freedoms, and it isn’t “Hillary” – it is an ENTIRE PACKAGE, don’t tell me “Bill Clinton isn’t running” because drat straight he is and Hillary is a package of all these goons including him and including Jeb Bush and the Republican establishment itself.
Are you kidding me! Today was the end as far as I am concerned. Win or lose, after this election I will leave the Republican Party. I pray Trump wins. But now I need to know – where to?
Please – are there some of you who are Freepers tell me?
Please – can’t some of you, even if you have NO candidate to run nor will for a long time, simply, somehow, form a NEW PARTY? I have no idea – yes it must seem impossible. So many states. But even if it is just “paperwork” where the Party only has a website, no candidates, no money, but is OFFICIAL, a REAL PARTY, Nationalist, where those such as me who have seen Trump betrayed by these bastards, who still want to “carry on” no matter what, but no, no longer, not these Republican “leaders”, these bastards, I will have none of them again. I don’t care about their stupid seats or their local elections, if Hillary gets in and floods us with 40 million more illegal aliens and appoints justices who will destroy my life and loot me, what the hell do I care about Paul Ryan’s drat “seat”, I hope they also all go to hell, I WANT THEM ALL TO GO TO HELL because my country is gone, GONE, GONE because of THEM, Paul Ryan and all the bastards who I will hate FOREVER and want them OUT OF MY LIFE and I hope and pray for their DESTRUCTION just as they left me withering on the vine TO DIE. What? Libertarian Party? Are you kidding me? Look at them. I want a Nationalist Party. Where? How? Are there Freepers out there already planning to make a move, a new party? Please! Please! I am ready. I am leaving the Republicans because after today, that was it, no more, no more insults, no more withering on the vine, in fact I hate them. I hate them. I hate Paul Ryan and all his ilk. Don’t tell me about “local seats”. You never got off your stupid chair to greet me. You only got off your stupid chair to GREET THEM, my enemies, not me. YOU BOW TO THEM WITH YOUR HAND OUT FOR THE DONOR CLASS AND YOUR CHEAP LABOR BENEFACTORS.
Where to? Where to?
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They're all just going to fall into line and vote straight ticket and forget all this the day after the election. Their tears are delicious but freep is just a fantasy zone for these people to get out the thoughts and feelings they know they can't share with people they know in real life.
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The worst thing, though, is that they've worked themselves into a corner. The only escape route is moderating their views, but this is impossible to them. Purity of thought must be maintained.
Let's face it, folks. Freepers are self-radicalizing right now in front of our eyes. Armageddon is around the corner. The country is dead once Hillary is elected. They're waiting for it.
What I personally don't buy is that they'll take the first shots. Freepers in specific, I mean. Do you really, really expect these cowards to do anything? I don't.
No, the first shots will be by someone else, probably a young Deplorable. It'll be way worse if they get caught first, though. Once it looks like there's a crackdown on the right wing militia groups, that is when the serious poo poo starts. There'll be no stopping it at that point. It won't be terrorism, it'll be fighting for freedom.
Things will be moderated somewhat if the GOP embraces the crazies after the election instead of rejecting them, but I think the country won't be served as well by that choice. The radicals need to be called out as radicals.
Well, Prester Jane is also one of those who pointed out just why we're not really in any massive danger of a revolution or anything: by and large, the radical right-wing is afraid to actually kill and die for their beliefs.
You saw it with Malheur, where only 30-40 identified occupiers were ever spotted and the Bundys couldn't claim more than 150. They got a lot of "I'd love to join your revolution, but this darn knee's been bothering me since my high school football days and I'm reliant on Social Security to keep the heat on." It takes a lot of guts to leave behind your comfortable, relatively safe life as an American citizen with full access to government benefits and start shooting black people or federal workers or going Red Dawn and living out in the woods making sneak attacks on gas stations or something.
Of course we're going to see some level of radical behavior after Trump loses, be it a mass shooting at a federal building or another Malheur. But modern America is a generally stable society that's not exactly prone to mass revolts or coups. I'd be more worried if this was Iraq or Thailand or something.
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Note: I'm not making light of a shooting here so do not take this that way. This is merely an example of the type of people that make up the Freep mindset.
Remember that couple that killed a couple cops and draped DON'T TREAD ON ME FLAGS on their bodies? Yeah Freep disavowed them as a false flag when in reality their entire motive was starting the great rightwing revolution.
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Those people existed and did that. Freep may only achieve the heady heights of Malheur, but if similar people to the former don't kill people I'll be surprised.
In and of itself that's nothing new or special in this day and age
God damnit this country sucks at guns.
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For the record, I couldn't find anything suggesting he was at the debate.
Actually, I immediately remembered something that did suggest Paul Ryan was at the debate!
http://www.theonion.com/graphic/paul-ryan-sitting-among-undecided-voters-town-hall-54139
Now I obviously don't know for a fact, but oh man, if Freep actually took an Onion headline as proof that Paul Ryan was at the debate...that's loving incredible.
quote:Paul Ryan: The Twenty Second Century's BENEDICT ARNOLD!
My god! Paul Ryan is an immortal being that will betray our country in 100 years!
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God damnit this country sucks at guns.
We'd have been far better off without forgetting the "well regulated militia" part of the 2nd.
I won't be able to check freep for a while. Trump tweeted a bunch of stuff this morning that continues the scorched earth theme. Are they still fired up? I'm waiting for the moderates to come out and then get zotted.
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- SocketWrench
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Note: I'm not making light of a shooting here so do not take this that way. This is merely an example of the type of people that make up the Freep mindset.
Remember that couple that killed a couple cops and draped DON'T TREAD ON ME FLAGS on their bodies? Yeah Freep disavowed them as a false flag when in reality their entire motive was starting the great rightwing revolution.
Yeah, but they killed cops, not blacks, or muslims, or mexicans, but cops. And if there's one thing freep blindly supports aside from their given political god, and after the recent tragedies, it's cops
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Oct 11, 2016 18:25
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Yeah, but they killed cops, not blacks, or muslims, or mexicans, but cops. And if there's one thing freep blindly supports aside from their given political god, and after the recent tragedies, it's cops
Unless they're going after right-wing terrorists, then cops are just as much of scum as everyone else.
Unless they're not and it's a false flag.
Basically it's complicated yet not at all complicated.
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Oct 11, 2016 18:27
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Could have sworn 2012 was the last chance to save America and they blew it then. Now it's 2016?
Democrats are such massive fuckups they can't even successfully ruin something.
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Oct 11, 2016 18:33
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Could have sworn 2012 was the last chance to save America and they blew it then. Now it's 2016?
Soon it will be 2020, when Hillary will TAKE ALL OUR GUNS and GIVE ILLEGALS THE RIGHT TO VOTE in her second term, because she didn't in her first term for reasons. Just like Obama.
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Oct 11, 2016 19:25
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Freep is in a feeding frenzy.
From WIKILEAKS BOMBSHELL: Hillary Advisors Admit She “HATES EVERYDAY AMERICANS” posted by freeper bobsunshine
So, here's the actual email on wikileaks, and here's the full paragraph they're quoting from.
quote:I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I'm running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion.
Can you guess the context without clicking through and reading it yourself? If you guessed "trying to refine talking points for a campaign speech," you're right!
This is an even more astounding reach than the "basement" thing from the other week, or the "she colluded with the DOJ" (on what time do a thing) one from today. This isn't journalism, this is intentionally misrepresenting facts. It's clickbait, only worse.
Will freep fall for it?
One.
quote:To: bobsunshine
Mutual, I’m sure.
2 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:12:46 AM by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
Two.
quote:To: bobsunshine
Sounds like, when she said half of Trump supporters are deplorables, she really meant, like EVERYONE is deplorable. She really needs to clarify this point.
3 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:13:10 AM by NEMDF
Three
quote:To: bobsunshine
Still, it’s the little everyday uninformed Americans that make her politically viable.
4 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:13:23 AM by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, 2016)
Four.
quote:To: bobsunshine
I never doubted her for a minute. That’s Our Gal!
*SPIT*
5 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:13:43 AM by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
Five! Five posts in before someone read the email. I think that's a new record!
quote:To: bobsunshine
The email is about hating the phrase “everyday Americans”.
6 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:14:01 AM by Flick Lives (Voting Trump. It is not just a vote, it is a chance to burn down the rotten Uniparty.)
I went on to count the number of posts on the first page alone that didn't get it.
Of the first fifty posts in the thread, thirty six didn't get the context and didn't notice the other discussion about how it's fake.
Just like realizing the fake only five posts in, having a significant majority of posts not bother reading jack poo poo is also probably a record.
Seriously, look at this poo poo.
quote:To: bobsunshine
Should be the headline at every major news outlet but they’re not news outlets but pro-Clinton propaganda shops.
8 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:14:24 AM by MountainWalker
I mean they're even trying to correct the people adding quotes to clarify...
quote:To: Flick Lives
Do you see quotation marks in the email like you added here?
No?
Well then apply to be her spokesperson sone other time.
17 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:18:50 AM by VanDeKoik
And then they continue to blame the media for covering it up.
quote:To: ealgeone
No reporting of any of these emails on the MSM...its NeverTrump all the time...
18 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:19:41 AM by Rennes Templar (President Trump: It's all over but the counting)
This, though, is why it matters.
quote:To: Chaguito
Just for record, Rush just talked about this email. Understand, use it once than move it on that you want to bring America together.
47 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:33:38 AM by bobsunshine
On the second page, over twenty posts continue to not read the email. The good news is that the fact checkers are showing up and demonstrating that it's a big fat nothing. The bad news is that they aren't listening.
quote:To: unread
So what I don’t care what it actually meant. The Rats are always taking Trump out of context! For instance “Mexicans are rapists”
53 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:38:30 AM by lone star annie
quote:To: Chipper
Great fodder for the last debate next week will bypass the MSM and get directly to the citizenry. Trump has to present it in an extremely deft like manner.
54 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:41:04 AM by sanjuanbob
quote:To: Flick Lives
Tough luck for them, we have the quote, it is damning, we run with it. Kick their lying vicious asses. If they want to spend their time explaining that Shrillary does not really hate “everyday Americans” that is their privilege. Podesta wrote it, hang it around his neck and let him deal with it.
This is WAR against the scumbags trying to destroy our country.
Let them spend the next 28 days trying to explain what the phrase “really meant.”
66 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:53:03 AM by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
quote:To: All
I vehemently disagree with everyone saying “let it go”....we have to fight like THEM, throw it out there constantly and MAKE THEM DEFEND IT....We are running out of time and we HAVE TO KEEP THEM ON DEFENSE!
Besides, anyone with a CLUE knows that the Clintons’ really do despise everyday Americans.
78 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:14:08 AM by Maverick68 (p)
quote:To: bobsunshine
If we lived in a country with a real media, her candidacy would be over today. You can’t have someone running for the highest office in the land who hates the constituents. This puts the “deplorables” comments in perfect context. That was no slip of the tongue. That was a rare moment of veracity out of this witch’s mouth.
97 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:02:54 AM by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
quote:To: JustaCowgirl
As Trump said at the debate, “Hillary has hatred in her heart.”
107 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:04:50 PM by MayflowerMadam
quote:To: longtermmemmory
“The debate commission is a 110% failure.”
I sent emails to the Commission On Presidential Debates after both debates telling them to do their job. Obviously bought and paid for by Clinton Crime Family so things won’t change. They’ll have Chris Wallace primed and ready to strike hard.
111 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:19:57 PM by MayflowerMadam
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Oct 11, 2016 21:06
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Living on past glories
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Well they didn't get any traction with Taco Bowl, so maybe this is the one.
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Oct 11, 2016 21:31
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The desperation is setting in.
From How Trump wins without PA, MI, WI, NH, or VA, a vanity thread posted by freeper 11th_VA
the OP posted:
As I'm writing this 538 has Florida, Nevada, Colorado, every undecided state in that map, and also North loving Carolina, as likely blue. That little pipe dream has them red.
quote:To: 11th_VA
I think with a strong performance in the final debate and no more hot mike releases he wins pretty handily. One thing the democrats can’t prepare for is anemic turnout - if they have it, they can’t bus in enough people to make up for it.
4 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:24:06 AM by struggle (The)
Yeah, but credible sources say there are more tapes, so...
quote:To: boycott
The map looks credible.
8 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:26:17 AM by marktwain
quote:To: 11th_VA
He wins Michigan as long as he’s got trained people watching Detroit and Dearborn illegal and ballot box stuffing and corrupt vote counting
9 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:26:33 AM by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
quote:To: boycott
VA close - dude, not with The Dead, The Felons and The Illegals voting. The Gubner is a master at stealing elections, and nobody in Richmond has the stones to call him on it.
11 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:28:18 AM by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
Replying to a link to Real Clear Politics showing almost no chance of Trump winning Virginia,
quote:To: NYC-RepublicanCT
Sorry, after reading Wikileaks its clear that media collusion is beyond anything the average person anticipated.
These averages are based on that collusion.
20 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:41:28 AM by conservativepoet
quote:To: boycott
Remember, WI was once part of MI. That must explain the commonality for popular liberals.
23 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:44:30 AM by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, 2016)
quote:To: boycott
VA is the only southern state Hillary has a shot at, and if she can’t hold VA, she is losing a lot more!
VA is a state where large portions of the voting population should be motivated to vote for her, just to protect their own pocketbooks.. those in NOVA are largely suckling at the tit of the status quo... they will be the ones who risk losing incomes and jobs should the status quo be upended by a Trump win. So, if she can’t get NOVA to turn out for her and vote, just out of self preservation.... she won’t have turnout in LOTS of other places.
I think WI and MI are supremely winnable for Trump... Only a few more weeks and this is over. Time will tell.
25 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:48:24 AM by HamiltonJay
Yeah, I dare Trump to appear on "black radio."
quote:To: KavMan
He can win the battleground states if he aggressively courts the black vote in the cities. Mentioning their plight at his rallies is not enough. He needs to go into the inner cities, go on black radio, etc. The more black votes he receives, the harder it will be for fraud.
What is the latest on his minority outreach? I have not seen any stats in a while. If he can get 20% of the black vote, he wins easily.
28 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:51:25 AM by eekitsagreek
For the record, HW Bush, Dole, and W Bush got ~10-12% of the black vote. McCain and Romney each got about 5% of the black vote. Even without his campaign imploding, I seriously doubt that Trump would have been able to break the 10%ish barrier. As it is, I'll be surprised if he hits 5%, but I'm also very smug and very white.
quote:To: eekitsagreek
I don’t agree..too dangerous...the black community is “hot” to go after any political face right now....and i wouldn’t be surprised if the Clinton machinery would use them to hurt Trump...(if you know what I mean)...they always use the black community..
31 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:53:53 AM by caww
quote:To: 11th_VA
Threading the needle.
The fact is, every GOP candidate will have a tough time in the electoral college for the rest of our lifetimes.
The way to win is to turn a few traditionally blue state into a red state.
There’s no other practical way.
37 posted on 10/11/2016, 10:59:47 AM by Ted Grant
Freep continues to show that they don't understand their own candidate
quote:To: EQAndyBuzz
It will take 270 ‘electoral votes’ to win ....It’s getting down to the wire....every move now will be carefully orchestrated......I trust his advisers know the field in play and then some. He has got to get the electoral vote and that means focused to where those states and numbers count for the win......
39 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:06:23 AM by caww
Freep continues to show that reality isn't real
quote:To: NYC-RepublicanCT
Why are we relying on MSM polls?
We all know they are rigged to show Trump losing
Trump will win 40/50 states
We are going to blow that corrupt racist b$tch right out of the water
47 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:15:45 AM by arl295
Just when you think you've hit peak crazy...
quote:To: 11th_VA
Because Trump said he would jail the hag and her bubba, the establishment criminals are now gushing from every sewer in the country. Trump is literally facing an overwhelming amount of organized vote fraud, lies and dirty tricks against his candidacy and has little if any chance of winning the WH. It goes without saying that this entire government needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from the ground up using the original Constitution as the blue print. Remove this country from the hand of Satan.
52 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:39:59 AM by drypowder
... they double down.
quote:To: NYC-RepublicanCT
Its going to be a blowout
Everything points that way
The pu$$y tape just energized and expanded Trump’s base, people are finally figuring out that the media just hates this guy and they are starting to join in.
Don’t believe the fake polls, they are cooking the numbers to badly that they just might as well just save time and pick random numbers at this point. Why even bother making the phone call in the first place?
This will be blowout
That is why the MSM/Hillary Campaign are in overdrive panic mode. The numbers are getting worse for her and she just got destroyed at the debates.
Trump wins 40/50 states in November
Its over folks
Get out and vote
53 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:29:42 PM by arl295
Even the ones that aren't completely lost to their fantasy world are struggling.
quote:To: arl295
I distrust most polls. I look at the internals, and even then, I'm skeptical... but... if what you're saying isn't true, why wouldn't the Breitbart/Gravis poll pick up the support for Trump?
In my view, Trump is down about 3 nationally... Down nationally translates into a near tie in EV, as NY and CA pad her lead... With an ad bombardment, and more discipline (stop tweeting against disgusting Ms. Universe, and quislings Ryan and McCaine, and focus on the bigger enemy, he'll get 274 votes.
57 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:52:54 PM by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!l)
quote:To: NYC-RepublicanCT
Polls are wrong because they are not polling the people who are going to vote
They are polling the people who voted last time
A lot has changed
You can not use metrics from last election in this election, especially in a non conventional election like this one
Many factors are not being weighed in these polls
1) Hillary is hated more then Trump, the pollsters rigged this to say the opposite, Trump has broad appeal, but they won’t admit this
2) No polling company wants to show a Trump lead, they won’t get any democrat work, remember, Trump is not paying for any of these polls, the Democrats and liberal MSMs are paying them. Even the Gravis company still wants Democrat jobs in the future. So yes, follow the money
3) Many of the people voting don’t have conventional land lines that polling companies rely on
4) Polling companies are bias, they are just another arm of the MSM
5) New voters or stale voters, voters who haven’t voted in a decade, don’t get polled
6) Polling companies will only poll you if you fit their narrative, A college educated female voting for Trump? Instant hang up, they won’t even record your opinion
Polling is pure BS at this point. I don’t trust any of them, sure they are fun to look at, and if Trump actually does bump up, they call it an anomaly and change the metrics to benefit Hillary, how many times have they done that so far this election season? Just about every month since July.
60 posted on 10/11/2016, 1:31:54 PM by arl295
There are tiny nuggets of truth in that one. Trump has excited people that haven't voted in a long time, if ever, and oh boy did they sure show up for the primary. They'll certainly show up in the general election as well. And yes, it is hard to deal with a shift like that... but every polling agency tries. Remember that story from a few weeks back about how someone conducted a poll and then gave the raw data to a handful of different agencies to see what they'd produce? There was about a five percentage point difference among the agencies.
The "likley voter" screening is black magic and is different inside every agency. Poll aggregators like 538 compare polls and how they've performed in the past with current results to get a prediction. When a pollster announces a new methodology and weighting, that throws current numbers into doubt compared to their history. One of the major polls, for example, announced that they were amplifying the white male voter turnout in the raw data because of what they saw happen with Trump. They've remained an outlier the entire election season, and maybe they're even correct!
Evidence-based aggregates are the reliable unskewers. If you're doing it yourself, you're wrong. Didn't they learn anything from 2012?
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From With the GOP Defection; Is it time for the "Freedom Party" to emerge?, a vanity thread posted by freeper Boomer
We're going to be seeing a lot of these, aren't we.
the OP posted:With the recent defection of GOP leadership from supporting the Republican nominee it may signal it's time for the "Freedom Party", as it has been referred to, to emerge. It may mean different things to different people but my hope is it would bring reasonable people who believe in the US Constitution as it is written from all sides to a common banner to unite under.
What say you?
As I've said a lot recently, there are two ways this goes. Either A) the GOP ejects the crazies and they go off and do the third party thing and leave the GOP to die on the vine as they can no longer approach a majority of the US population, or B) the GOP embraces the crazies and the moderates go elsewhere... probably to the Democrats. Without a similar schism on the left side of things, this could be the end of the GOP at the national level. I think too many bridges are on fire for a reconciliation between the two groups. Let's see what freep thinks.
quote:To: Boomer
I hate to be a downer, but it is over if Trump loses in Nov.
Not kidding. She will overwhelm us with voting refugees, shut down the 2A (in some way. I don’t mean a repeal, but there are ways around outright repeal), and she will figure out a way to shut down our websites and talk radio.
5 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:31:45 AM by Kate in Palo Alto
I resent that "opposition party" means what it does today. Saying "no" to everything hasn't exactly proven effective, has it?
quote:To: Boomer
I’m all in, if Hillary wins.
While we have had two major parties almost all of our history, the two major parties have not always been today’s Democrat and Republican parties.
The Whig party dissolved in the 1850s, and the Republicans emerged at that time as the 2nd major party. Why couldn’t this happen again?, if the Republican party has become useless as an opposition force to the liberals , and won’t use Congressional majorities to fight Democrat presidents, then what are they good for??
We will probably always have a 2 party system but they don’t have to be today’s parties.
6 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:32:08 AM by Dilbert San Diego
quote:To: Boomer
Been saying for a long time in these parts that the GOPe has to be bypassed, and pretty much the only way to accomplish this is to form a new, conservative party that puts America first. Of coure, special care would have to be taken to ensure that GOPe interlopers don't try to infiltrate the party.
8 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:32:56 AM by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
quote:To: DIRTYSECRET
Yes. We’ll have to wait until the big day in November.
We can still win, I think due to Donalds high popularity with many voters. Don’t forget, many Trump voters are probably not admitting it now. In today’s Demo-Dominated world, your job, your home, your car and your privacy could be violated by the Progressives, aka Demo/Socialists/BLM/LGBT/ Hillary voters.
These groups don’t believe in privacy or equal protection under the law. There are even a couple of robed Judges who believe the same thing. What we now call Democracy is but a watered down version of what we as a country used to have for most the people.
12 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:38:21 AM by lee martell
There's always Option C: CIVIL WAR
quote:To: RC one
All I see these days is apocalypse. Wouldn’t surprise me that the USA breaks apart within a decade.
13 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:38:27 AM by JmyBryan
quote:To: JmyBryan
I’ll be moving to the first red state that secedes. I hope it’s Texas. I miss the weather.
20 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:41:20 AM by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
quote:To: Kudsman
I actually listened to a little Rush today. He was on target. Why support Republicans who think Hillary is a more suitable president than Donald?
Me, not Rush: Even if Trump wins, the GOP needs to DIE.
21 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:42:02 AM by Yaelle
quote:To: Boomer
It’s time for something far, far beyond a new political party.
Really, it’s time.
As far as the GOP goes, I’m not voting for them any longer.
That being said, elections don’t matter. The entire political system, the media and the government are utterly and completely corrupt.
They are parasites.
22 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:46:11 AM by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
Freep beliefs: pushing further and further to the right while requiring more and more strict purity tests for candidates will ensure no liberals sneak in, and then we'll have them once and for all!
quote:To: Boomer
The Republican party was created by former Whig party rank and file, because the pro-business Whig leaders could not bring themselves to condemn slavery, because it was good for business. Once the anti-slavery rank and file left, the Whig party withered.
But times have changed. This time, the Republican party rank and file have begun the process to *purge* the corrupt party leadership. And they have already had some major victories in doing so.
Because of Mr. Trump, the corrupt leaders have unmasked themselves. They are not conservatives, nationalists, and representatives of the people. They are liberals, globalists, and see multinational corporations as their only constituency.
Mr. Trump unmasked them, and while he can decimate their ranks, the rank and file Republicans must purge them in earnest. Booting them out of elective and appointive office.
And purging is the better alternative. A new party just creates weakness in our ranks. To capture the Republican party means that the American people are again in charge of our own destinies.
It will also mean we can take on and defeat the socialist-Democrat party and tear down the edifices they have built, without always worrying of a liberal Republican sabotaging our efforts, standing behind us with a knife, in hopes of betraying us when we are most vulnerable.
23 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:48:50 AM by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
quote:To: All
It’s either a new party, or clean house in the Republican Party top to bottom so that the executive of the party are not uniparty types and are explicitly anti-globalist.
Then make sure that people running under the banner hold similar views so you don’t have RINO eruptions of globalist support after voters have said no thanks.
Whether he wins or loses, Donald Trump should give time to that project (either a new party or cleaning the stables of the GOP) in 2017. The current edifice is about to be swept away. And good riddance.
30 posted on 10/11/2016, 11:55:38 AM by Peter ODonnell (Pray for enlightenment and true justice in these times of mass delusion)
quote:To: Kate in Palo Alto
I agree. The Republic is DOA. The GOP will be reduced to a rump party, like Venezuelan opposition parties.
40 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:17:51 PM by Sam Gamgee
Meanwhile, third parties are a conspiracy!
quote:To: All
beware the THIRD PARTY BS TROLLS.
the constitution party was paid by democrats to vote split.
see also johnson
42 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:23:05 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
quote:To: Boomer
According to the Declaration of Independence, it is a duty and a perfect right to overthrow a tyrannical government and replace it with freedom and natural rights.
44 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:48:28 PM by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
quote:To: longtermmemmory
Not a troll but you sound like one.
What do you think we should do since many in the GOP has blatantly turned its back on us?
The dem party is the party of criminals and everyone working in it is a criminal. Maybe not every single dem voter is but for sure everyone who works for the dem party is.
Think of them as termites who are working hard to tear apart the foundation and pillars of your home. The problem is we don’t have enough work farms to put them on so they can earn their keep while serving their time - 5 years per fraud. Most would never be free again.
45 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:56:15 PM by Boomer (Is it time for a new "Freedom Party" to emerge to replace the GOPe and the radical dems?)
quote:To: Boomer
I’ve been saying that gop needs to die for a looooooong time. It’s just the designated loser wing of the uniparty. This latest coup attempt just underlines the need.
It would be nice to have a second political party. Unfortunately the last time one of the major political parties failed and was replaced, the US ended up in a civil war.
53 posted on 10/11/2016, 2:02:41 PM by RKBA Democrat (The left has the "Vagina Monologues" and calls it art. But we on the right can't say "pussy?")
Yeah, I'm seeing a scary amount of Option C here.
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Okay, one more, no context.
quote:To: rightwingintelligentsia
Fact-checking is not fact-checking.
fact-checking is really just all about reinforcing the liberal candidate or the liberal side of some controversy.
that’s what fact checking is.
30 posted on 10/11/2016, 12:40:53 PM by gaijin
Yeeeeup.
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You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
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Freep is in a feeding frenzy.
From WIKILEAKS BOMBSHELL: Hillary Advisors Admit She “HATES EVERYDAY AMERICANS” posted by freeper bobsunshine
So, here's the actual email on wikileaks, and here's the full paragraph they're quoting from.
Can you guess the context without clicking through and reading it yourself? If you guessed "trying to refine talking points for a campaign speech," you're right!
This is an even more astounding reach than the "basement" thing from the other week, or the "she colluded with the DOJ" (on what time do a thing) one from today. This isn't journalism, this is intentionally misrepresenting facts. It's clickbait, only worse.
Will freep fall for it?
Is the sky blue?
Is water wet?
Is fire hot?
Is Donald racist?
But remember guys, the mainstream media and Hillary are the liars twisting facts and making big deals out of nothing.
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Okay, one more, no context.
Yeeeeup.
Mayybe if they stopped lying all the time fact checking wouldn't always show them to be wrong
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Unite: MASH!!
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Mayybe if they stopped lying all the time fact checking wouldn't always show them to be wrong
But that would imply that Drudge and Breitbart were wrong and that can't be right. Surely it must be the entire rest of the world that is wrong. Those evil DemonRATs simply corrupted everything. I'm certainly not at fault.
Geostomp fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Oct 12, 2016
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I feel like beating a dead, orange horse tonight.
From Who will win the presidency? - Nate Silver posted by freeper Blue Turtle
quote:There's a 21% chance of Clinton landslide: Change of winning: Hillary - 83.5% Trump 16.5%
Yup, 538 now believes that we are more likely to see a Clinton landslide than any possible Trump victory condition. What's even more crazy is that according to the NYT tracker, 538 is giving Trump more of a chance than anyone else right now.
I tried to unpack this and got a nosebleed.
quote:To: Blue Turtle
Silver is a pansy pajama boy in the tank for Hitlery. His model works when a GOPe-er is running who he knows won’t challenge cheating. Well, the secret is out. He’s a butt boy.
4 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:44:29 PM by CincyRichieRich (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy...)
Polling is a massive physical operation!
quote:To: Blue Turtle
Could things really have gone from Trump slightly ahead to a complete blowout in 6 days? Are we being played? Is the media that effective at grabbing the “pu$$y” narative and changing the vote by 12% in 4 days? Or is it a massive phy-ops?
5 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:45:08 PM by BRL
quote:To: Blue Turtle
Well, it is what it is.
The Republic may be coming under her final judgment by God.
Hitlery’s regime may be our last.
Our Bible study recently pointed us to the Greek woman of Tyre and Sidon in Mark 7. She was challenged by Jesus when she begged for a miracle for her daughter.
She recognized her low position, not being deserving of His mercy. But at the same time, she asked for a “crumb” from under the table—acknowledging Jesus’ ability to give what she wanted.
I do pray for mercy, while acknowledging I do not deserve the same. He has saved my soul.
In the same way, I pray for this nation, knowing we don’t deserve the same. God is sovereign.
7 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:46:32 PM by SoFloFreeper
quote:To: Blue Turtle
somebody explain HOW all these separate polls can be faked or just be wrong?
we know the mechanics of rigging elections in Chicago.
bussing voters from precinct to precinct to vote multiple times...
so how is this massive poll fraud going on without anyone spilling the beans?
8 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:46:59 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
quote:To: longtermmemmory
The same way that the entire government and media is totally corrupt without anyone spilling the beans.
However, that being said, it will be nothing short of a miracle if Trump wins.
It’s Trump versus the Axis of Evil.
13 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:52:41 PM by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
quote:To: chris37
This is not your normal election cycle that he can use his Computer God to try to sleuth the polls and predict a winner.
16 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:53:49 PM by IVAXMAN
Did someone say computer god!?
quote:To: Blue Turtle
The media is trying to gaslight us — to get us to question what we see happening all around us and to question our memory, perception, and sanity. That somehow we are ‘bad’ It doesn’t help that there are plenty of useful idiots out there to play the heavy on the Witch’s behalf.
For what it’s worth, Bernie’s supporters were accusing the media of the same during the primaries.
17 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:54:23 PM by GCC Catholic (Stay out of the weeds! Let's hold fast to the path and Make America Great Again!)
quote:To: longtermmemmory
That’s my worry. I wonder how almost every single poll can be wrong? Except for LA Times and occasionally PPD, he’s behind everywhere. I look at the poll constructs and they are obviously bull$hit, but I played that game in 2012. So I’ve decided to just do my part and vote, say a few prayers and leave this one up to God. There’s 28 days left and anything can happen.
18 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:54:38 PM by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again!)
With original spacing, strikethru, and
quote:To: longtermmemmory
They game the internals.
That 11% poll? It included as likely voters the following:
Those who had voted in 2012;
Those who had voted in 2014;
People under 24 who SELF_SELECTED as being "5-10 on a scale of 1-10 as likely to vote".
It also only included 2 days, not 3; and did not include any survey after the debate.
ALSO...
Transparently the poll is manipulated with: a) a small sample (500); and b) the following ideological make-up:
clinton-poll-8
* Republican and Republican leaners 36%
* Democrat and Democrat leaners 43%
* Independents 12%
By itself that ideological snapshot is silly. Nationally the party registration is roughly 27% (R), 32% (D), and 40% (I) – SEE HERE – However, the polling sample is the least of the issues for this deconstruction.
It was COMMISSIONED by a Hillary Political Action Committee, and run by a firm which already received hundreds of thousands THIS YEAR from the Democrats.
hxxps://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/media-polling-fully-exposed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/#more-123009
Look, you got to understand the following:
1) Right after the debate (this is AFTER Ryan led the charge against Trump), Hillary demanded her plane take off early so she could start drinking
2) The next day, she campaigned in Dearbornistan Detroit where she bragged to a crowd of a few hundred, about her friend Michelle Obama. (The only Demographic strongly in her favor, btw). Meanwhile, even before the debate, Donald Trump had more people turning out to support him at a spontaneous rally outside of Trump Tower, than Hillary gets at most of her planned rallies.
3) Today, Hillary played at a high school and a junior college in Florida. It did not even merit a video shot on the local news: there were about 50 people in attendance, more or less. It was a high school gym, and she couldn't fill THAT.
And.
She had both Bill and AL GORE campaigning with her.
Her speech was that "how can you vote for Trump, a man who is anti-science?" (NO mention by her, of the "grab her right in the kitty" tape, on the news that I could hear.) Why not?
Al Gore's speech included "Every vote counts."
If she's up by 11 points, WTF?
BUSTED.
23 posted on 10/11/2016, 4:56:55 PM by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
quote:To: longtermmemmory
I used to work for market research polling firm. It’s not illegal to parse and present polling info in any manner the client wishes. If political clients want a particular result, then they get it. The polling companies usually start to return to realistic numbers close to election day, so they can market themselves to future clients as accurate.
38 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:02:19 PM by catbertz
quote:To: longtermmemmory
so how is this massive poll fraud going on without anyone spilling the beans?
I don't think it's poll fraud.
I think a lot of Democrats are falsely identifying themselves to pollsters as Republicans and then claiming they will vote for Hillary.
And many real Trump supporters are slamming the phone in the pollsters' ears or just not picking up at all.
I think it is virtually impossible to get an accurate assessment of the national mood at this time through a poll. That said, Hillary's vote fraud margin is going to approach 5% this time.
39 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:02:47 PM by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
quote:To: Blue Turtle
“In a Gallup poll on October 26th in 1980, two weeks before the election, Gallup had it Jimmy Carter 47, Ronald Reagan 39. That election two weeks later ended up in a landslide that was so big that Carter conceded before California closed.”
51 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:17:55 PM by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
I love this example. There was only one debate that year, and it took place two days after the poll was released.
This was all bold.
quote:To: Blue Turtle
thus far today silver is saying a blowout while another media outlet claims it may be over before it all starts do to absentee ballot counting in North Carolina & Florida... this on the same day huge news that will destroy hillary is coming from wikileaks...THE MEDIA HAS RECEIVED THEIR ORDERS!!
52 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:18:10 PM by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
quote:To: SoFloFreeper
I listened to Hannity today and what Hillary did to that 12 year old girl made me livid. I told my wife “It shakes my faith that God would allow Hillary to become president.”
Those women who have come forward are living in fear. They know if Hillary gets in, they’re lives are worthless. Hillary is an evil, vengeful woman. And to have so many people helping her, including republicans, can only mean one thing to me - that she, and all of her underlings, directly answer to satan.
I pray Jesus defeats them all. But if He doesn’t, I know how it comes out in the end. Maybe her in power is the beginning of the tribulation. Which is, thank Jesus, the beginning of the end.
57 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:23:27 PM by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
quote:To: little jeremiah
Anecdotal mostly, church going relatives and friends turning against Trump. That and national polls showing HRC steady at 44 percent. Not scientific, but if Clinton is to be elected, the vote will not be pro Hillary, but against her opponent. I will support and vote for Trump, but for many vulgar is a worse sin than being corrupt. They will not vote for Hillary directly but will still put her in office by not voting for Trump.
63 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:27:39 PM by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
quote:To: chiller
Every republican who sits on his hands and does not condemn Ryan should be voted out of office. I will be calling the local gop office tomorrow and telling them NO republican will ever get a vote from me if they don’t come out NOW in support of Trump and against Ryan. I suggest everyone do the same.
64 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:31:35 PM by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
quote:To: usafa92
“That’s my worry. I wonder how almost every single poll can be wrong? Except for LA Times and occasionally PPD, he’s behind everywhere.”
I remember 2008 and 2012 here on FR where people were saying the polls were BS, but unfortunately were somewhat true as the results of the elections of those years showed.
I fear the same thing is going to happen in 2016. This will be the last time in our life time we will have a chance to see a conservative/repub in the Whitehouse.
If/when Hitlery wins, we will never see a conservative get anywhere near winning a national election.
The Trump recording has really hurt him with swing and women voters.
As I have posted before, here in NH all you see are hitlery signs along with all the down ticket dems.
It’s going to be a blood bath for repubs in this state.
72 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:02:55 PM by CapnJack
what
quote:To: SoFloFreeper
I think America is coming under God's judgement. I wonder if the spirit released from the Euphrates river are not related to jihad and terrorism.
77 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:17:24 PM by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
quote:To: buckalfa
The anecdotal evidence is very flimsy, and polls are total crap. Many evangelical leaders are totally standing up for and defending Trump.
It’s reallllly hard to imagine more than a teensy sliver of people giving up on Trump and preferring Hitlery (because that’s what it is) because of a few seconds of raunchy language 11 years ago.
87 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:45:16 PM by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
quote:To: BRL
Is the media that effective at grabbing the “pu$$y” narative and changing the vote by 12% in 4 days? Or is it a massive phy-ops?
The MSM needed *something* to justify ramping up Hillary's numbers. The spiteful Bush clan delivered the goods. I was expecting something like this to occur, there was no way that the uniparty and its propaganda division were going to allow Hillary to go into the last three weeks of the campaign trailing in the polls.
98 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:40:54 PM by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
There are now way, way more freepers acknowledging the poll problem. Still plenty of denial, but the majority in that thread are realistic.
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While poking around in this thread, I found this.
quote:To: drewh
Patriots in... p*ssies out!
5 posted on 10/11/2016, 5:52:44 PM by freedom6178
Freepers: Patriots in... p*ssies out!
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A few snacks from At San Antonio Fundraiser, Trump Attacks Paul Ryan for "Disloyalty" posted by freeper drewh
It's mostly the same "Paul Ryan is a pussy" and "this is the death of the GOP and the rise of a brand new party" and all the other crap we've seen the past few days, but these two stand out.
quote:To: palmer
What purpose does attacking Ryan serve? Or more precisely, why not just attack Hillary 24x7 and get the media to cover that instead of giving them the opportunity to cover the distraction instead?
Trump won the debate. Ryan halted all momentum from that by dumping his you know what in the punch bowl first thing monday morning. Now Trump is making him pay a price for his treason. He’s also giving him one last chance to get onside.
29 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:49:21 PM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
Folks, what the hell body part did Paul Ryan put into the punch bowl there? Am I missing the metaphor or is freep pulling this out of their rear end?
quote:To: dontreadthis
I believe Paul Ryan is a converted democRAT AND a converted MUSLIM.
He is not fighting for his party nor the person chosen to run for POTUS...he is fighting for himself, like they all do...they all go to Congress and come out Millionaires.
Today hubby and I visited our IRA investor...things are changing and obama put laws into play that will take effect in 2017...Our investor told us....
DONALD TRUMP IS A BUSINESS MAN, A VERY SUCCESSFUL ONE, AND HE IS NOT A POLISHED PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN LIKE BOTH CLINTONS. SO HE IS NOT AN EXPERIENCE SPEAKER BUT HE LOVES AMERICA AND HE WANTS TO CLEAN UP WASHINGTON, THE LOBBIST, AND THE CROOKS IN CONGRESS..AND THE PEOPLE HEAR HIM, THEY WANT THIS AND THEY CAN REALATE TO THIS BILLIONAIRE...IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE...AND IT IS COMING...TAXPAYERS NEED TO BE AWARE THE GOVERNMENT WILL ROB US BLIND...BUTT ONLY IF WE ALLOW THEM ...SO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD. AND YOUR VOTE MATTER....
Left there feeling much better than we did when we walked in...
wake up voters...we only have a month...NEVER DO WE WANT ANOTHER CROOKED, LYING CLINTON...THEY ARE EVIL AND DANGEROUS....
31 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:50:47 PM by haircutter
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