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Chomskyan posted:No, Chomsky never said "Pol Pot did nothing wrong" or anything resembling that. He and a fellow academic Edward Herman called into question the validity of certain casualty figures coming out of Cambodia during the genocide. They thought that the numbers were inflated and that the Western press was ignoring alternative figures that were lower and might be more accurate. Long story short, the numbers weren't inflated, Chomsky hasn't denied the scale of killings since. However, for desperate reactionary asshats who want to discredit Chomsky it's the only card they have so they'll play it until the end of time. Ok thanks, that quote seemed really out of context.
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Kekekela posted:I think its the hug-pimping. Its just so creepy given the context of the preceding conversation. He was also hanging on his nuts and calling him The Donald the whole time; a crime which should be punishable by banishment.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:33
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It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:36
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Cimber posted:It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress. That's nothing new unfortunately. Even Phyllis Schaffley had the support of some women.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:38
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Cimber posted:It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress. There's frequently a just world fallacy at work there. Those women who were assaulted must have deserved it in some way, that wouldn't happen to someone like me.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:45
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Cimber posted:It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress. Those sluts were probably asking for it, unlike them, proper ladies.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:46
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Subvisual Haze posted:There's frequently a just world fallacy at work there. Those women who were assaulted must have deserved it in some way, that wouldn't happen to someone like me. I wonder what the overlap is between people who believe that women are responsible for rape and people who believe that there are roaming Muslim hordes raping all the women in Europe.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:49
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Oh i see, thanks. I dont watch the third hour (or any hour) of the today show so i didnt know anything about the guy before this week. I thought NBC just wanted to claim a white male scalp they had power over. Got any examples of B.Bush being a creepo? Im sure somebody has made a list. Also Billy Bush knew about the tape for a while and never told his bosses at NBC news. It was discovered because he was bragging about it in parties while covering the Rio Olympics.
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Cimber posted:It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress. It's pretty common for people to get wrapped up in all kinds of identities and groups to the point where everything in the world has to conform no matter how contradictory. It shouldn't be so surprising.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:51
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Oh i see, thanks. I dont watch the third hour (or any hour) of the today show so i didnt know anything about the guy before this week. I thought NBC just wanted to claim a white male scalp they had power over. Got any examples of B.Bush being a creepo? Im sure somebody has made a list. John Oliver already did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnsgqU80eIw
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Oct 11, 2016 13:54
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Cimber posted:It really loving boggles my mind that i have to have arguments with republican women that sexual assault is not ok. What the serious gently caress.  That just makes me very sad. It's awful how a lot of women don't realize that this "locker room talk" or "boys will be boys" poo poo is not okay. And it's hard to come to terms with the fact that you've dedicated yourself to a culture that will excuse abuse. It's hard to come to terms with the fact that you have been abused, or allowed your children or friends to be. Think of it as someone saying "My parents spanked me growing up, and I turned out fine"; you kind of have to gently bring them around to the point that they turned out fine despite of, not because.
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Oct 11, 2016 13:56
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Tom Guycot posted:It's pretty common for people to get wrapped up in all kinds of identities and groups to the point where everything in the world has to conform no matter how contradictory. It shouldn't be so surprising. The echo chamber is so bad too. Its a total fact based reality failure. " No, Donald trump isnt losing, he's up by so many points.See? These internet polls prove it. The lamestream media is lying. He's oging to crush her on election day. Wait, he lost? She won? Must have been voter fraud. " Now the woman i am arguing with is saying 'yeah, he's bad, but she's worse."
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Oct 11, 2016 13:57
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canepazzo posted:Reposting Trump's tweet as he deleted the previous one with the typo: Have any non-online polls shown winning? So far I've seen 3 on the political polls twitter and they're all in Clinton's favor. Also please ignore anything from Gravis their pollster is a raving lunatic who was just on Breitbart explaining that weekend polling after Igrab Cuntra was a media ploy to keep Trump down.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Have any non-online polls shown winning? So far I've seen 3 on the political polls twitter and they're all in Clinton's favor. My favorite part of Gravis is they can't even return polls in Trump's favor consistently. Neither can Rasmussen.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:00
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Any predictions on what happens to trump if he loses? I think he's still facing down the university thing and now the cuba stuff came to light.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:01
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We can't prosecute him because it would look bad. Who knows if he did it on purpose, buy threatening to jail Clinton probably gets him political immunity for as long as she's president.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:02
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I wonder if he might be referring to unscientific online polls. I'm not sure about the second debate, but the first one had such polls showing Trump winning 9-to-1 despite, obviously, that being complete nonsense.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:02
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Trump fired a contestant on the apprentice for locker room talk. http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/300320-trump-once-fired-a-celebrity-apprentice-contestant-for-locker
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Goatman Sacks posted:Have any non-online polls shown winning? So far I've seen 3 on the political polls twitter and they're all in Clinton's favor. You can be a lunatic and still be a competent statistician, just saying.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Trump fired a contestant on the apprentice for locker room talk. Well you see, when a woman does it
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Oct 11, 2016 14:03
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Oct 11, 2016 14:05
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Doubling down! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785828772423561216 quote:Our very weak and ineffective leader, Paul Ryan, had a bad conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:08
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Cimber posted:The echo chamber is so bad too. Its a total fact based reality failure. Yeah, earlier today I took a look at the_donald on a lark, and man oh man its like looking at an alternate reality.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:08
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Like I said: The second he suggested anything other than total obedience the civil war became inevitable. Part of it is, I'm pretty sure Trump KNOWS he can beat the GOP. It's the reason whenever he's been down and sad about the campaign he goes back to MAN WASN'T I loving GREAT IN THE PRIMARY THAT WAS GOOD TIMES.
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Oct 11, 2016 14:09
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Tom Guycot posted:Yeah, earlier today I took a look at the_donald on a lark, and man oh man its like looking at an alternate reality. I swore off r/the_donald due to the overwhelming racism and bigotry, but I might check it out if they are corncobbing into the latter days of the Romney toxx thread.
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Night10194 posted:Part of it is, I'm pretty sure Trump KNOWS he can beat the GOP. It's the reason whenever he's been down and sad about the campaign he goes back to MAN WASN'T I loving GREAT IN THE PRIMARY THAT WAS GOOD TIMES. And it will be very easy for that line to thinking to become, "I was doing great in the primary, when I was on my own, things only began to turn when those establishment fuckers got in and started meddling."
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Oct 11, 2016 14:14
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For Billy Bush it was sexual harrassment of a client in a work environment. It doesn't matter if it was "playing along" or "just the guys." Any HR training video will tell you "don't do this, ever ever." Besides, you think Meryl Streep is going to give him an interview after this? Michelle Obama? Any actress or female singer under 18? gently caress that smarmy prick. The way he says "the Donald has scored!" is so  it makes my fillings hurt. He's like a high school freshman trying to get in good with the quarterback.
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Tom Guycot posted:Yeah, earlier today I took a look at the_donald on a lark, and man oh man its like looking at an alternate reality. It's the best sub on Reddit. Right now they've PROVEN that the NBC/WSJ poll is rigged because the pollster that NBC/WSJ hired had at one time done polling for Clinton (and Paul Ryan, and John McCain) and probably a lot of others, you know, because they're a polling firm. loving CHECKMATE CUCKTARDS! https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/56wblk/breaking_fucking_news_do_not_let_this_slide/
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davecrazy posted:It's the best sub on Reddit. "You're losing." "Who says?" "All the polls." "Which ones?" "All of them." "...Who says?" God, I hope we get more exchanges like that one as the SS Trump goes down.
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davecrazy posted:It's the best sub on Reddit. The title made me think they thought the pollster was literally her Super PAC. Do they not know that pollsters can have multiple clients?  edit: oh man and the comments quote:i think all the shitheads' internal polling (MSM/GOPe/dems) says trump is up like by at least 15% and they're freaking the gently caress out. why else would they do the coup attempt last weekend? lozzle fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Oct 11, 2016 |
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lozzle posted:Wait they think a pollster is a Super PAC? The best part is even if that was true how do they explain 'Romney's about to win in 2012 we swear' Rasmussen? Ahahahaha.
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davecrazy posted:It's the best sub on Reddit. I love the Google Maps screen saying their HQs are 10 minutes away and that's evidence somehow
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lozzle posted:This was posted earlier after Eichenwald puffed up this piece on twitter and the consensus was that it wasn't a big deal. Eichenwald seems to have been a bit broken by the election. It's unfortunate that he's puffed it up as much as he has, because it isn't the smoking gun he thinks it is-but provided that his details are right, it's definitely notable. For those unwilling to click through- Sputnik (RT without attempting to keep the veneer of respectability) rapidly reported on the last batch of the Bear-leaked Podesta emails, focusing on one sent to him by Blumenthal about Benghazi. The substance of the article is that the email proves Blumenthal and Podesta agree that Benghazi was all Hillary's fault, based on the following quote: "Clinton was in charge of the State Department, and it failed to protect U.S. personnel at an American consulate in Libya. If the GOP wants to raise that as a talking point against her, it is legitimate" Problem is, the quote is one piece of a much longer article by Eichenwald, which was cited and reproduced (with link and title) by Blumenthal in the email. Once Sputnik realized how badly they'd hosed the story, they pulled it. According to Eichenwald (and this is the part that needs to be true for there to be any meat), only a Turkish paper had referenced/run with that by the time Trump got on stage in Pennsylvania and repeated the quote, attributing it to Blumenthal with the same takeaway. It would mean that either A: his staff is picking things up from Sputnik faster than Drudge+Breitbart+RightTwitter are, and scrubbing the source info away B: The same as 'A', but without the scrubbing. Despite being briefed that the Russians are trying to influence our election, he uncritically passes along Russian Propaganda sourced from emails hacked by Russia C: Whoever is in charge of the DnD campaign out of Russia has a line to Trump/His Staff and passed the story along directly, but failed to stop him when they retracted it. A is cause for immediate termination in a campaign that fires for far less. B is notably reckless, but fits Trump's pattern. It's likely why the intelligence community broke with protocol and leaked the content of Trump's briefing-so that when he's busted, he can't say he didn't know. If this is the case, it's a serious news story. C is Eichenwald's theory and would be one of the top 10 discoveries of American investigative journalism, so I understand his excitement. I just don't agree with him. By hyping it as it's C, he makes it tough for people to take seriously.
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2spooky4me posted:So what you guys are saying is that context and knowing the facts matter? This is the fastest I've ever seen someone apply the puppetmaster defense when they got called on their poo poo. Thanks for exposing the hypocrisy in all of our postings though, friend
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davecrazy posted:It's the best sub on Reddit. Its going to be the best site on the internet come Nov 9th. Mah gawd, it will be glorious.
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Tom Guycot posted:Its going to be the best site on the internet come Nov 9th. Mah gawd, it will be glorious. Eh, they'll probably close it down the second the election is called, for that exact reason.
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lozzle posted:edit: oh man and the comments That makes no sense though. Why would they try to get rid of Trump if he's winning? That's good for them. Like, I know these people are crazy, but this really just makes no sense at all.
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