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Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show 'authoritarian power' Guys I don't think LePage is gonna withdraw his support for Trump. Kro-Bar fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 11, 2016 |
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Instant Sunrise posted:honestly i don't even know if a trump victory is actually 3 standard deviations from the mean, it just looks like that on the pec graph. Looking at it closely I think the blue zone is 1SD, green is 2, so a trump victory lies approximately at two standard deviations below the mean. Which pegs the chance at half of 5%; taking into account rounding, that gives us Sam Wang's Bayesian chance of 3%.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:05
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This is going to be one wild loving month.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:05
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It's going to be hilarious to watch Trump destroy the GOP, but I'm profoundly disturbed by the effect it's going to have on political discourse for years to come
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Oct 11, 2016 16:05
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Prester Jane posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785842546878578688 Hey while you're here, does this ring a bell? https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/785633129478238209
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Oct 11, 2016 16:06
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Kro-Bar posted:http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html 
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Oct 11, 2016 16:07
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Kro-Bar posted:http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html quote:Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we've had eight years of a president, he's an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we're slipping into anarchy WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? 
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Oct 11, 2016 16:08
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blue squares posted:It's going to be hilarious to watch Trump destroy the GOP, but I'm profoundly disturbed by the effect it's going to have on political discourse for years to come Same. This is terrifying because it's legitimized to people that an authoritarian fascist is an option. That's terrifying.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:08
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freebooter posted:Is there any movement whatsoever within mainstream politics to end the electoral college and make POTUS elected by popular vote? Because it's plainly loving ridiculous that only a handful of states matter. And it doesn't look to me like it would benefit one party over the other (the way weekend voting would benefit the Democrats, say) so I don't see why there'd be a partisan deadlock about it. First it would require a constitutional amendment, which requires bipartisan agreement so inherently NOPE. Second it is a solution for a problem that is relatively rare. Third it would admit that we're actually one country and not fifty states working together. An admission which, while accurate today, is actually opposed to the ideas in the constitution. The constitution has a series of clauses that are dated in the age of instant communication and jet travel. We even had to move up inauguration day once because the thing is so dated.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:08
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They're dropping like flies. https://twitter.com/aaroncarter/status/785658225488072704
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Oct 11, 2016 16:09
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CascadeBeta posted:Same. This is terrifying because it's legitimized to people that an authoritarian fascist is an option. That's terrifying. Not if he gets below 40% of the vote
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Oct 11, 2016 16:09
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lozzle posted:WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? literally nothing, it's self contradicting
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Oct 11, 2016 16:10
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That talk of Syria in the debate has me wondering; what's the deal with Syria? Is there a thread or an article about it somewhere? I know it's Clinton's fault, and Russia is making it worse, but I don't know what "it" actually is
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Oct 11, 2016 16:10
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lozzle posted:WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Maybe he's thinking that if you so far in one direction, then it warps around to the other side? Obama's Totalitarian Government is creating a society with no government? It's the same theory that says if you eat 5,000 calories a day, then eventually you will develop a higher base metabolism and start throwing up; ending up with you being skinny.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:10
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lozzle posted:WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? He hates blacks and wants a white man to stomp them.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:10
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Kro-Bar posted:Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show 'authoritarian power' quote:"Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we've had eight years of a president, he's an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we're slipping into anarchy," LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM. Yes, yes. I see. We need authoritarian power to restore the rule of law. Especially after an authoritarian, autocrat President that ignores Congress. This makes complete sense.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:11
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Kro-Bar posted:They're dropping like flies. This calls for a celebration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0p3jn7ODuc
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Oct 11, 2016 16:11
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This is so much fun.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:11
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Maybe he's thinking that if you so far in one direction, then it warps around to the other side? Or like that game Asteroids where if you go far enough to one side of the screen you pop out on the other side.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:11
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Guy Goodbody posted:That talk of Syria in the debate has me wondering; what's the deal with Syria? Is there a thread or an article about it somewhere? I know it's Clinton's fault, and Russia is making it worse, but I don't know what "it" actually is We have a Middle East thread here in D&D that's mostly about Syria. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3390388
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Oct 11, 2016 16:11
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Whoa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4vuUfnTEkg&t=185s
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Oct 11, 2016 16:12
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Junior G-man posted:Yes, yes. I see. We need authoritarian power to restore the rule of law. Especially after an authoritarian, autocrat President that ignores Congress. Fascism is okay when a white guy does it.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:13
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lozzle posted:WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I just hope and pray that he doesn't decide to set an example in Maine.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:13
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WampaLord posted:This calls for a celebration. Its no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVKIva2KddY
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Oct 11, 2016 16:14
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lozzle posted:WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Silly, law and order is broken, which is the perfect justification for anarchic behavior to bring it back!  The likes of LePage will basically say anything to justify taking whatever measures necessary to implement their policies. I also don't think Americans are capable of actually doing political violence en masse (and our institutions are sufficiently strong that it's nothing to worry about) but it's interesting to watch the authoritarian playbook try to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the US in the exact same way it does every other country.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:15
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Not if he gets below 40% of the vote The lesson for the next fascist will be to not get caught on video admitting to sexual assault.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:17
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AdmiralViscen posted:The lesson for the next fascist will be to not get caught on video admitting to sexual assault. The next fascist will have 4 more years of demographic shifts to contend with There is also no way the GOP allows a Trump to happen again
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Oct 11, 2016 16:18
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Guy Goodbody posted:That talk of Syria in the debate has me wondering; what's the deal with Syria? Is there a thread or an article about it somewhere? I know it's Clinton's fault, and Russia is making it worse, but I don't know what "it" actually is 
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Oct 11, 2016 16:19
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freebooter posted:Is there any movement whatsoever within mainstream politics to end the electoral college and make POTUS elected by popular vote? Because it's plainly loving ridiculous that only a handful of states matter. And it doesn't look to me like it would benefit one party over the other (the way weekend voting would benefit the Democrats, say) so I don't see why there'd be a partisan deadlock about it. There is, but (as I became aware due to some people correcting my misconceptions) it doesn't actually take the country away from a plurality system. Basically if you get a situation like 1992, where the race is split three ways, the "winner" would still be the guy with the most votes, but he might only have 35% of the vote or whatever. You'd need to include something like IRV to correct that or you'd still just get two parties.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:19
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AdmiralViscen posted:The lesson for the next fascist will be to not get caught on video admitting to sexual assault. Yeah, I don't think a Trump loss, no matter how big, will stop people from saying stuff like this in public discourse, especially when a large amount of his supporters just assume the election will be rigged.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:19
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https://twitter.com/costareports/status/785860777047629826quote:Trump is at Trump Tower, per a person close to him. Watching TV, tweeting. With Bannon & others who encourage his anti-estab R sentiment... "Mein führer...Steiner..."
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Oct 11, 2016 16:20
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It's a weird feeling having all of your beliefs about the opposition get so thoroughly proven and become generally accepted over such a short period of time
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785846205750337537 except that bernie was not a democrat and only caucused with them this year....naaaah
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The next fascist will have 4 more years of demographic shifts to contend with GOP superdelegates are absolutely going to be A Thing.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:20
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AdmiralViscen posted:The lesson for the next fascist will be to not get caught on video admitting to sexual assault. If I was an ambitious Republican, I'd note that Trump's racist, isolationist policies played very well with the voters, and his personal flaws were what reduced his support. A smooth-spoken racist could win easily.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:21
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The next fascist will have 4 more years of demographic shifts to contend with Probably 8 honestly, since incumbency is a hell of a drug. BarbarianElephant posted:If I was an ambitious Republican, I'd note that Trump's racist, isolationist policies played very well with the voters, and his personal flaws were what reduced his support. A smooth-spoken racist could win easily. People talk a big game about how Hillary is only winning because her opponent is so drat bad, but consider that Trump might have won specifically because of who he was going to face in the general. Reminder: White men are the only people to really consistently support Trump. Even when he was doing well white women supported him far less.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:21
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AdmiralViscen posted:The lesson for the next fascist will be to not get caught on video admitting to sexual assault. The amount of conservative women who just now are like "I can't defend the GOP for not dumping this guy after standing up for them all these years against liberals accusations of sexism" while they didn't care about years of misogynistic policies and language from GOP leaders is pretty sad. They'll be right back with the party once they find a guy that just says Mexicans are rapists and Muslims need to pass purity tests or be deported while keeping the women hating to trying to get abortion and birth control made illegal, and fighting against equal pay.
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Oct 11, 2016 16:21
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We're all in agreement that would actually be no systemic violence as Trump tries to consolidate his base, right? That support from the fraternal order of police doesn't scare anyone else?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The next fascist will have 4 more years of demographic shifts to contend with First part is true, second part is lol Trump IS the GOP, only louder. At least half their party is totally on board with that and what's left of the GOP apparatus after November 8th is going to be even less able to rein it in than the current batch are.
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