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ikanreed posted:So how about vox day making a "less biased" wikipedia knock off, where you pay money to be an admin. I will repost my statement on the matter from the Conservapedia mock thread: Oh man I just read the Seven Canons and I don't think I will ever see a man with a head so far up his own rear end: quote:CANON ONE So in other words, I reject your reality and substitute my own... quote:CANON TWO ...But we're right about everything and to challenge us is to challenge reality quote:CANON THREE Nothin' wrong here quote:CANON FOUR Every website has a rule like this, but I feel like "Ideological crusaders" is in there because he wanted to say SJW's but wanted to sound more intellectual about it quote:CANON FIVE Nothin' wrong here either quote:CANON SIX I feel like this is a preemptive rear end-covering for when Voxman gets caught breaking his own rules quote:CANON SEVEN "gently caress you we're smarter than you" And on that note, I think I'll go punch something
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Vox Day's new wiki with a tiny userbase that makes it very difficult to become a member is sure to succeed
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Vox Day's new wiki with a tiny userbase that makes it very difficult to become a member is sure to succeed It'll succeed at being a website where a half dozen people fawn over vox's opinions, which is all he really wants. To constantly be surrounded by people telling him he's right.
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Oct 11, 2016 20:19
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Who knew Vox Day was a Beastie Boys fan.
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https://twitter.com/DerekThornton71/status/778366000437858304
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Oct 11, 2016 20:53
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Unironically great idea, everyone leave for your little echo chamber so Twitter will be at least slightly less horrible for the rest of us.
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Oct 11, 2016 20:55
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This will work as well as voat did at removing morons from Reddit
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ikanreed posted:So how about vox day making a "less biased" wikipedia knock off, where you pay money to be an admin. STEALING MY WIGOS SIR HOW DARE YOU mind you I was tipped off by Sandifer (who is bitterly resisting writing it up for Eruditorium because he has real goddamn work to do like getting Neoreaction a Basilisk done at Lulu) The Vosgian Beast posted:Vox Day's new wiki with a tiny userbase that makes it very difficult to become a member is sure to succeed I wonder how he and Larry Sanger would go in an alienating-your-contributors faceoff. He's repeating a lot of the same mistakes: * my plan is perfect and you may now guess just how hostile I will be to outside ideas. ("No, it's not. My designs always work. See: multibutton mice.") * we're not using tawdry MySQL for the database, just because MediaWiki is relentlessly overoptimised and it's what all the paid developers develop against. No, we're going with Oracle, the port for which is maintained by half a volunteer! (At least Citizendium went with Postgres, which port is also maintained by half a volunteer but at least it gets run through MW core unit testing.) Deliberately making work for yourself with no actual benefit at all is apparently genius systems administration. * everything about it is to grind his personal axes. (His working user is "Fenris".) Fortunately, future galactic citizens' instance of the planetary core knowledge base will tell them all the Important Information about SCAAALZIII!!! * compete with Wikipedia by first copying the whole thing. ("The name isn't the issue. It has to show up first in any search engine. That's what Wikipedia has." I'm pretty sure Google instituted the duplicate content penalty a while after Wikipedia asked them why we were typically on page three or four, behind thirty of our own mirror sites.) * Vox is a bit of an expert on wiki communities, you know But of course he has his own new bad ideas: An innovative approach to dealing with corporate spam (though I predicted it in 2006) This is the sort of thing that makes me think Vox is taking the piss, except he's clearly been working on this for about a year now and honestly thinks this is all a truly brilliant idea. He's also pushing tie-ins to gab.io (a right-wing Facebook/Twitter thing, which Milo is apparently going great guns on; three-week queue for accounts) and Brave (Brendan Eich's new web browser, which is Chrome with bitcoins in; pretty sure he hasn't asked Eich, but Brave is indeed being taken up by the Dork Enlightenment to strike a blow against the evil SJW). Yudkowsky's Arbital is better thought out than this thing. It seems to have specialised: "Arbital is the place for crowdsourced, intuitive math explanations." Which is fine, y'know, EY can write decent pop science when it's actually real science, and CC-by-sa maths explanations is better than trying to understand any of the maths articles on Wikipedia. He seems pretty into it too. Everything on the Roadmap is ridiculous. "I think we may surprise you with our ability to develop to the roadmap without scaling up at all, because right now our only real challenge is the limitations imposed by the ridiculous tools available. We plan to replace them entirely in Phase Three." THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. If i were to bend over backwards until i could bite my own bum, i could concoct an explanation involving parsoid, visual editor and transforming the entire database into the HTML5 representation instead of the wikitext representation. Which would be a genuine advance, if a small one. But Mediawiki as found at Wikimedia is made of horror, tears and gaffer tape (like basically all large software systems) and holds together only because the dev team are frickin' geniuses. You really are not going to reproduce it but better, carrying a couple of billion words of legacy wikitext. I wonder what they're doing for a server config. RationalWiki is more responsive than this, and our hosting is ~$390/mo for four VMs. (I even worked out a Citizendium-level overspecified hosting config with six VMs, that would be not much more expensive.) Their reliable sourcing policy ... if I was a bright and stupid high school student coming up with something off the top of my head, that list would be a good start for classroom discussion. (The Wikipedia RS policy is these days an evolved defence against spammers. i've been actually looking at the various AFD queues on WP lately, and gently caress ME THERE ARE SO MANY BLATANT SPAMMERS. Most of my hobby time has been making them miserable. But I'm discovering the short reason for a lot of the Problem with Wikipedia is actually "spammers mean we can't have nice things".) And in conclusion, Infogalactic is as brain-eatingly hilarious as Voat was, and I've been having the same reaction, with whole paragraphs of profanity-laced ranting about it self-assembling in a spontaneously forming accretion disc around a singularity of "wat". divabot has a new favorite as of 21:53 on Oct 11, 2016 |
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Isn't there already a Conservapedia? I guess Schaflay's kid isn't edgelording hard enough?
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Thanks, I feel like I can laugh at this on a much higher level now. Has there been an "ask me about wiki administration" thread before?
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ikanreed posted:This will work as well as voat did at removing morons from Reddit Me: "What's voat?"  Oh dear.  Oh Lord.  
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So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase.
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Wales Grey posted:So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase. It means "Racism/sexism is something you have to describe yourself as for it to "count" and anyone who denies this is literally trapping me in a (((Kafka)))esque nightmare"
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Space Poodle posted:Isn't there already a Conservapedia? I guess Schaflay's kid isn't edgelording hard enough? That's for normal far right people, it's not cool and hip and /pol/ like the discerning alt-right demand these days
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Wales Grey posted:So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase. Imagine proposing a new rule on a group that tells them they have to act respectfully and not angrily. The people against the rule rail hard against the rule calling it thought policing and then calling everyone that wants it fascists. The people in favor of the rule point out that very nature of the reaction of the against group demonstrates why the rule is being proposed. The against people scream Kafkatrap because clearly it's a rule that's designed to prevent objection to the rule when in reality they're just giant assholes that need to go gently caress off somewhere else.
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Wales Grey posted:So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase. Supposedly it's the idea that providing irrefutable evidence that you aren't a [racist/sexist/whatever] is, to ~the SJW~, somehow more evidence that you ARE that! That everything you say is interpreted as "proof" that you're a horrible racist through no fault of your own. In reality 99% of the time it's used is because the "evidence" they presented is something like "but I have a black friend!" and everyone but them can see that it's not actually evidence in their favor at all, but since they're sure they're right anyway it must all be the mindkilled SJW's fault!
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Wales Grey posted:So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase. Imagine you're the protagonist of Kafka's The Trial, except the accusation is extremely clear ("you're racist") and the sentence is mild ("you are no longer welcome to this social circle that you never were part of or wanted to be part of")
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hackbunny posted:Imagine you're the protagonist of Kafka's The Trial, except the accusation is extremely clear ("you're racist") and the sentence is mild ("you are no longer welcome to this social circle that you never were part of or wanted to be part of") Also that you're a perfectly rational redpilled man gone their own way who has used hard inescapable logic to prove to these dumb irrational
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Wales Grey posted:So what exactly is "Kafkatrapping"? I've seen it mentioned a few places and there's not really any good definition of what exactly it is. Even from the blog that apparently coined the phrase. I've literally never seen this happen anywhere, not even on Tumblr. Also, the accusation of racism is meant to be so paralyzingly emotionally manipulative that your average blue-pill beta cuck will be unable to defend himself against it, and will meekly give in to the SJW's demands. Only red-pilled alpha ubermenschen have the ability to reject this manipulation and prove their independence of thought by posting Harambe pictures to Leslie Jones' Twitter. Which is totally not racist you guys. pookel has a new favorite as of 23:20 on Oct 11, 2016 |
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ate all the Oreos posted:That's for normal far right people, it's not cool and hip and /pol/ like the discerning alt-right demand these days So you're saying that there aren't enough entries detailing "degenerate" sexual affectations in excruciating, exacting, full color detail with lots of pictures?
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pookel posted:As explained to me by my alt-right friend, it's when someone says "I'm not a racist" and the SJW says "AHA! Your denial proves you're guilty!" "I'm not a racist, that's what's so insane about this!"
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pookel posted:As explained to me by my alt-right friend, it's when someone says "I'm not a racist" and the SJW says "AHA! Your denial proves you're guilty!" It seems like som detail must be missing in his account of this exchange. Who the hell says that someone is "guilty" of being a racist, for starters? Is this something that happened to him in real life, or is he describing something he saw on tumblr?
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Space Poodle posted:So you're saying that there aren't enough entries detailing "degenerate" sexual affectations we must all avoid in excruciating, exacting, full color detail with lots of pictures? I mean I assume that on conservapedia the articles on anime porn would mostly be negative while on this new wiki it will be about how perfect and ideal the situations depicted by hentai are and why can't real women be meek like Rei or whatever
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Ken White from Popehat: That Time I Accidentally Played Dungeons & Dragons With White Nationalists as a comment that hasn't been deleted yet says, "In light of that, the whole episode with Clark seems a lot like history repeating itself."
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Jack Gladney posted:It seems like som detail must be missing in his account of this exchange. Who the hell says that someone is "guilty" of being a racist, for starters? Is this something that happened to him in real life, or is he describing something he saw on tumblr? That's my best guess, anyway.
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Gooooood didn't you hear me, I said I'm not racist but Hitler was okay
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Kafkatrapping is when you're trapped in a room with a dude who keeps making really uninformed allusions to Franz Kafka, an author he's never read
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Kafkatrapping is when you're trapped in a room with a dude who keeps making really uninformed allusions to Franz Kafka, an author he's never read 
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What's really annoying to me is that there's already a well known literary allusion for claiming you are something proves you're not to an unfair, irrational system.
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pookel posted:As explained to me by my alt-right friend, it's when someone says "I'm not a racist" and the SJW says "AHA! Your denial proves you're guilty!" This just sounds like he started one too many sentences with "I'm not a racist, but," and then completely misunderstood why he was being rebuked.
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ikanreed posted:What's really annoying to me is that there's already a well known literary allusion for claiming you are something proves you're not to an unfair, irrational system. poo poo, I've completely forgotten. What was it again?
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Darth Walrus posted:poo poo, I've completely forgotten. What was it again? Catch-22
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Catch-22 I thought Catch-22 was "you are ineligible for B until you have completed A. You may not complete A until you have finished B."
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pookel posted:I thought Catch-22 was "you are ineligible for B until you have completed A. You may not complete A until you have finished B."
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https://twitter.com/paxdickinson/status/786024706956599296 Pax: cornered wild animal
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Killing Jews is still always leftism.
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It is not that I oppose Nazi genocide. It is that I oppose Nazi socialism, and all proposals for getting rid of Jews swiftly are based on Nazi economics, are left wing.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It is not that I oppose Nazi genocide. It is that I oppose Nazi socialism, and all proposals for getting rid of Jews swiftly are based on Nazi economics, are left wing. Hitler, not fascist enough for me  LoB, can you source this wonderful quote?
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It is not that I oppose Nazi genocide. It is that I oppose Nazi socialism, and all proposals for getting rid of Jews swiftly are based on Nazi economics, are left wing. Obviously we should let the free market decide what to do with the Jews, no more centralized final solution, let the invisible hand point the way to the gas chambers!
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