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ApplesandOranges posted:Ifrit's just been consistently getting more bestial over the series. He goes from basically humanoid with angry face and horns, to eventually getting shaggier, and then half-dog thing in X and XIV. I'd hardly call Motorcycle Shiva But There's Two Of Them "flowier". More elaborate, sure, but that's because they're a Transformer.
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XIV is more of a big lizard-thing that breathes fire than a half-dog.Rigged Death Trap posted:Ramuhs beard and robes keep getting longer. Pretty sure XIV Ramuh is just a beard in the shape of a person.
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Oct 11, 2016 15:14
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ApplesandOranges posted:Ifrit's just been consistently getting more bestial over the series. He goes from basically humanoid with angry face and horns, to eventually getting shaggier, and then half-dog thing in X and XIV. Remember when Shiva was a bike?
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Oct 11, 2016 17:37
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Oct 11, 2016 17:49
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Shiva will be completely naked in Final Fantasy Thirty.
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Oct 11, 2016 18:05
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Rarity posted:I think Shiva gets less and less clothing with each version depending on how you interpret the sprite versions, she was practically naked in a few of them. she had the least clothes in 8 and 9 and 10 increased them.
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QuantaStarFire posted:Pretty sure XIV Ramuh is just a beard in the shape of a person. FuSoYa?
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Oct 11, 2016 20:21
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FuSoYa's official are makes him look more like Cousin It's older brother
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Oct 11, 2016 20:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG1rIz1S7k Look at that poo poo. That is not a man with a beard; that is a beard with a man.
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AweStriker posted:I'd hardly call Motorcycle Shiva But There's Two Of Them "flowier". More elaborate, sure, but that's because they're a Transformer. The best part about Motorcycle Shiva is that Shiva isn't even the most important part. The one you fight, beat and ultimate prove the right to summon is Nyx but nope gotta be Shiva because it's the Shiva Sisters for no reason. But then I stop thinking and just go sure, whatever. After all, this is Final Fantasy which cares so little about the actual mythologies it's half-assedly referencing that it refuses to ever actually spell Rama correctly. 
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QuantaStarFire posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG1rIz1S7k The best part of that fight is that he casts Seduce with shocking (HEH) regularity. Square knows the true power of beards. Foxy Grandpa indeed.
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QuantaStarFire posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG1rIz1S7k Oh Jesus that pulsating and wriggling mass  it's like an eldritch parasite
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On an unrelated note Ramuh's theme is one of my favorite vanilla FF XIV themes, especially the climactic part at around 4:40 in that video.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:10
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I haven't heard too many of the Eidolon themes aside from Titan's, Garuda's, and the Moogle's. I liked Garuda's, though, and I like it a lot when the Eidolon have great focus such as in this game. Speaking of which, I wonder what Brahne intended to do with Shiva and Ifrit.
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Alexander has some good music too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89qYANJGMQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhDvQIqEkuI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg Hobgoblin2099 posted:Speaking of which, I wonder what Brahne intended to do with Shiva and Ifrit. Just hold them in reserve? I mean, when you can summon the All-Father, a portal to an endless abyss, and the King of Dragons, do you really need a Fire Demon and an Ice Princess?
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QuantaStarFire posted:Just hold them in reserve? I mean, when you can summon the All-Father, a portal to an endless abyss, and the King of Dragons, do you really need a Fire Demon and an Ice Princess? Depends on how bad the winters are in Alexandria.
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so I started a run of FF9 PC late last week and doing a lot of stuff I didn't do in the past. Mostly the Chocobo stuff. I am almost to disc 3 at this point after about 20 hours of play. So far: *gently caress finding Chocographs **Choco Hot and Cold mini game in general *gently caress the semi-rare and rare steals **gently caress Hilgigars' Fairy Flute
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I'm also curious why the Dark Matter was at the Treno Auction House. Did she use Odin and then immediately sell him due to his Instant Death proccing too sporadically?
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   Last time, we rescued Eiko from Kuja at the cost of Mog, but we found Hilda as a bonus.   His soul was filled with hate, but he was polite to me.  What about? <Ribbit!> Well, he divulged his master plan to me. I didn't even have to ask. It was tiresome. But what he spoke of... It was truly a scene from a nightmare. What did he say? The taking of Hilda Garde 1 was a part of this process. We must tell Zidane about this! <Ribbit!> You have valuable information! Which lead me to believe that my abduction wasn't a part of his plan.Everything we know so far makes the "Kuja's a space alien looking for great power to kill some guy" reveal not that shocking. It's interesting that Kuja told his plan to Hilda and simply let her go, though. Did he really think nothing of her, or is she a lure to keep Zidane following him for whatever reason? Then again, Kuja telling a random person his entire plan as an excuse to produce theatrics is definitely not a stretch.   ...Ugh! You just hit me where it hurts most. Oh, really? Are you sure you weren't there to take back Hilda Garde 1? I'm not lying! <Ribbit!> I apologize! I'll never cheat on you ever again! <Ribbit!> I promise! ...Can your words be trusted? I don't lie! <Ribbit!> I swear on my father's name! Alright. I'll turn you back. I...I understand! Now turn me back! Erk... P-Please, no! <Ribbit!> Now turn me back! Alright, alright.   ...... ...... I must stop that.Yep, we're finally done with the transformations. Cid is a full-fledged human again.    -----       Mr. Zidane! Please get up!   What's up? Lady Hilda is calling a meeting. Please go to the conference room. Okay. I just wish I could've dreamt a bit longer... Huh? Oh, it's nothing. Don't worry about it. We have control of Zidane, but not really anything to do besides get another letter.   So let's go ahead. We've got a lot of plot to go through today. That'll be pretty much this entire update.   ...It's Regent Cid.  ......Ahem! You can stop the frog-talk now. ...Oh well. Ugh... I didn't gather you all to talk about that. I called for this meeting to tell you about what I learned while in Kuja's captivity. It may provide a hint about where he may be. Listen carefully.  I shall look for her. Now, Hilda will tell you the rest. Hilda? Some parts of the story may be hard to believe, but please hear me out. Greater power? What would he do with it? What? We call our world Gaia. But he called his birthplace Terra. Terra, huh...?Let's fade from that into an ATE.     They're going really slow. We can't rush 'em, or everything will probably fall apart again. We're not gettin' anywhere. I've been up here forever. I wanna switch places with someone. I guess the damage is a lot worse than we expected. Where could she be...?  Why are you all gathered here? Are you scheming another abduction or something? Hey, watch your mouth. We were just discussing ways to restore this district. Yeah. Old timer, you've got us all wrong. Yeah. We're just tryin' to rebuild our home. That's all. What's troublin' you? Maybe we can help. Err... Can I really trust you? Yeah... She is not in the castle, so I figured she would be in town. Why don't you go back to the castle before you get lost? What!? We'll find her. This is like our backyard.    Well, well, well. Looks like Rusty's finally getting soft around the edges. -----  I don't know where Kuja went, but maybe we can find him if we go there... ...Unfortunately, you can't get directly to Terra from the Shimmering Island.  Everyone would've discovered this 'other world' by now if it were that easy. So, what do we do? ...I'll tell you. The gateway that connects the two worlds is sealed, but Kuja said there is a place where the seal can be broken. Where's that? An explorer left a record of his trip to this particular castle on the Forgotten Continent. If I remember correctly, he wrote that the cliffs were too steep to explore. Other than that, very little is known about the Forgotten Continent... Ipsen's Castle, huh...?Remember that story Zidane told Dagger back in Madain Sari, about the explorer Ipsen? That's why that name is kind of a big deal, even though it's very likely he actually had nothing to do with the castle. Some explorer randomly found this castle, Ipsen is a famous explorer, so hey, Ipsen's Castle.  There's only the Mist Continent and Esto Gaza on the Lost Continent that modern society understands. The Forgotten Continent has very little information, and don't forget that few knew that even Madain Sari existed despite being founded 500 years ago. Sailing is apparently dangerous business, not to mention you can't easily access the Forgotten Continent by boat (at least our party can't). Meanwhile, there's one whole airship that's not powered by Mist. So far...      Yes. Now we can concentrate on building the ship.  We're having problems with the construction of the hull, though.  How come? I realized that the Blue Narciss was a well-built ship when I rode in it. There are other reasons, but we must hurry. Let's get ready! Roger!Looks like things are finally coming together for the next steam-powered airship. -----  You may find a clue if you go to Ipsen's Castle. Did you ask Kuja about all of this? These are all things he discussed voluntarily. He became very impassioned as he spoke... And he volunteered information without even my asking. He probably thought telling me his plans wouldn't affect his grand scheme. He's right. His power is great, and we're at a disadvantage. But I can't forgive Kuja! He toyed with my friends' lives! Now we know where we need to go. The problem is getting there. Yeah, we still have some time before we can finally get our drat airship. If only there were some plot padding we could insert as an excuse to make such a time leap sensical while still keeping the player engaged with the plot...  PERFECT. What? What now? I cannot find the princess! I've looked all over Lindblum! The members of Tantalus aided me in my search, but... She's not in Lindblum? Do you know where she is? I think so...  -----  We're gonna look for Dagger! Is there anyone else we need to look for? No! But we looked over there already! Go someplace where we haven't already looked! True, true...-----   Blank! Marcus! How y'all doin'? We're doing alright. How's show business, Ruby? Well, the money ain't no good, but I'm havin' fun. I like it. That's great! Oh! Sorry! Have you seen Dagger? Dagger...? Naw, I ain't seen her. What about her? You fixin' to kidnap her again? No, we're just looking for her this time. I was only kiddin', Marcus. I'll ask the patrons to be on the lookout. Thanks, Ruby! -----  I was sure that she'd be back in Alexandria... Where else can I look? Boss! Have you found Dagger? Nah... Can't find her anywhere! I didn't find Dagger, but...   I'm gonna check again. ----- WATER SOUNDS  Is she here? She was standin' over there just a second ago...   Is that who I think it is?    Wacky hijinx ensue.   You are...Baku? Yup, I'm the man who abducted yer princess! Let us forget about that. It happened a long time ago... You got a big heart, unlike that knucklehead, Steiner. No wonder the women are runnin' the show here. Gwahahaha!  -----  Steiner and I did our best to protect Alexandria...but our efforts were in vain. Steiner was worried about you. Why haven't you contacted him? She is...? Then it is better for her not to return to this city for a while... It won't do her any good to see Alexandria like this... Well, here's the thing... We can't find her. I thought she'd be back here, but I can't find her anywhere. She is back in Alexandria? But she's nowhere to be found...? 'Resting place'? Yes, if she is back in Alexandria, I am certain that she will be there. If you see Princess Garnet, please tell her not to worry about Alexandria... She must take care of herself first. Sure. What else? I'd like you to give something to her. This real Garnet teaches the fake Garnet Bahamut.  At least Beatrix is alive, so there is that. ----- NATURE SOUNDS   At last. We've found Dagger...again.     I...I've been thinking since...the disaster. That's why I came back here, but... Can I ask why? When my mother was still alive... My primary concern was how to talk and look like a princess. Those were the only things on my mind... That didn't change when my mother died and I was about to become a queen... I only thought about how to look and act like a queen. I don't know about that. I have no right to rule over this country... Hmm... Oh, I almost forgot!   That's right... Isn't it pretty? It's beautiful... That gem used to be just another ordinary stone... The stone made a wish... The stone traveled from person to person, in keeping with its wish... And now, it shining in your hand, Dagger. If you're willing to make an effort... The day will come when Alexandria needs you! There's no rush. The important thing is to have the desire. You'd think Zidane would be out of these types of stories by now, but hell if he doesn't know how to cheer someone up at their lowest.  Hey, what's important is that you honestly want to stay with us... Can I borrow that knife again...? Which one? The one that helped me make my last big decision...   So to summarize, Dagger's making another big decision, which she needs Zidane's knife to do, and asks Zidane to remember her the way she was.  Zidane is...a tad freaked out at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIxkKcVl-nA     But no, Dagger's big decision is a tiny bit less drastic than what he expected.  No, Dagger simply decided to get a haircut using the least-practical method possible. I've heard plenty of horror stories from people giving themselves similar cuts partly due to this cutscene. It doesn't work out quite as well in real life, you see.  Dagger's dead hair flies toward the ruins of Alexandria.   One day, Dagger will be Queen of Alexandria. But that moment can wait. For now, Dagger's still one of us.   And I don't think Zidane would have it any other way.  But enough of that poo poo.    For next time, we get our loving airship. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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And now we've reached the best part of the game. Though, I do have some questions. A) What job class is Hilda meant to be, if any? Is she a throwback to Sorceresses from VIII or maybe witches like Matoya? B) Why would you ever cheat on a woman that could turn you into a hedgehog pie? C) Who was the hedgehog pie in the Desert Palace? 
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Oct 12, 2016 00:47
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It took me a few playthroughs to realize that the monster in the Desert Palace was a hedgehog pie because I never EVER encountered them in battle until that particular playthrough. I don't think I've encountered one since, actually.
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Alxprit posted:
Maduin...Terraforming?  Yes, I know that pun only works with the English version of FFVI.
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I remain confused as to the timescale - Lindblum isn't exactly close to Alexandria, did Zidane just go 'hey guys I'm just gonna be gone for a day or two, later'? The fastest way to get there is via airship too, since there's no gargant route that leads directly there.Rabbi Raccoon posted:It took me a few playthroughs to realize that the monster in the Desert Palace was a hedgehog pie because I never EVER encountered them in battle until that particular playthrough. I don't think I've encountered one since, actually. Hedgehog Pies are only found really early in the game, I think.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:C) Who was the hedgehog pie in the Desert Palace? The evil wizard, Manannan!  Oh wait, wrong series.
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I want anime hair that never tangles, is light enough that you can grow it to your hips without ever being encumbered by it, and can be sliced apart like warm butter (and perfectly evenly too!) if you ever wave a knife in its general direction.
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Pureauthor posted:I want anime hair that never tangles, is light enough that you can grow it to your hips without ever being encumbered by it, and can be sliced apart like warm butter (and perfectly evenly too!) if you ever wave a knife in its general direction. Have you seen the stuff FF weapons cut into? They're obvious made of special Fantasium, slicing diamond and bundles of hair with the greatest of ease.
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Oct 12, 2016 03:23
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One of my buddies tried to do the "Dagger Do" in high school with a very real and somewhat sharp knife. Unlike Zidane's knife, his was double bladed, so it was quite a surprise when he left a nice gash on the back of his neck when he didn't cut through his hair in one swipe like Garnet did. What followed was a memorial trip to the ER with his bemused parents and several friends trying (and failing) to hold in their laughter, and then a trip to the Barber because boy howdy did he mess up his hair. Don't try to cut your hair like a Final Fantasy Princess folks, it does not end well.
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Oct 12, 2016 03:26
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RIP Long-Haired Garnet, I liked your design better. I remain confused about why haircuts are so important in some things.
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NikkolasKing posted:RIP Long-Haired Garnet, I liked your design better. It's a Japanese thing. Cutting your hair is supposed to represent major life changes.
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ApplesandOranges posted:since there's no gargant route that leads directly there. Pinnacle Rocks is right outside the Hunter's Gate in the Business District. The place the Gargant crashed the last time we tried using it to get to Alexandria.
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mateo360 posted:Pinnacle Rocks is right outside the Hunter's Gate in the Business District. The place the Gargant crashed the last time we tried using it to get to Alexandria. It's definitely not a standard route, since the gargant only made its way there after being chased. Notably there's no gargant grass there, so Zidane wouldn't have been able to call one back from Lindblum anyway.
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Even aside from hair cutting as a cultural thing, it works here as Garnet's planning on going into action-mode. Because if there's one thing even less wise than giving yourself a knife-haircut, it's tromping around the messy wilderness with hair down past your butt.
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NikkolasKing posted:RIP Long-Haired Garnet, I liked your design better. This game was released in 2000, she's just trying to give herself the Rachel.
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Oct 12, 2016 05:54
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The Bob of Destiny Also, samurai cutting their top knots etc. The Japanese love cutting their hair as a sign of change.
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Oct 12, 2016 09:55
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I cut my hair before I started my new job! But that was mainly because my old job kept calling me in when I had an appointment to get my hair cut. And I look terrible the moment my hair can touch my ears
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Oct 12, 2016 10:26
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Pretty much anyone in a Nisio story gets his/her hair cut for 'character development' Then again I like the shorter hair look more, so its fine by me DeafNote fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Oct 12, 2016 |
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Krumbsthumbs posted:One of my buddies tried to do the "Dagger Do" in high school with a very real and somewhat sharp knife. Unlike Zidane's knife, his was double bladed, so it was quite a surprise when he left a nice gash on the back of his neck when he didn't cut through his hair in one swipe like Garnet did. I cannot believe stuff like this actually happened. Kinda makes me like this scene even more now. ApplesandOranges posted:Hedgehog Pies are only found really early in the game, I think. You can run into them on Disc 1 just after leaving Lindblum through the basement. They show up near the Qu's Marsh and Chocobo Forest iirc.
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MelvinBison posted:It's a Japanese thing. Cutting your hair is supposed to represent major life changes. Alternately, "when she changes her hair, she's changing her man." Look out, Zidane!
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GunnerJ posted:Alternately, "when she changes her hair, she's changing her man." Look out, Zidane! Well, Kuja DID secure a luxurious bedroom for Hilda inside an abandoned volcano city on a 10 minute notice. And Hilda was his hostage, imagine how he would treat an actual fiance. Kuja is a keeper.
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