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This could backfire, though. "Mr. Zebb, why did you brutally rape and slaughter Yeoman Leavitt?" "A Greek god forced me to, sir." The perfect crime.
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I don't trust Trek to handle it well enough. It will come off as MRA false flag rape accusation bullshit. Waaay to fine a line to walk
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Tighclops posted:I don't think it's bad, it's just par for the course for a show that started in 2001. I can remember BSG would occasionally do CG people a few years later and theirs never looked right either despite being able to better hide their imperfections better with the shakeycam. The space shots are pretty reliably solid but some of the interior stuff is super inconsistent. Any time they try to show the biological parts of a basestar it looks lovely as hell. The centurion animation is also inconsistent.
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BSG's FX were a little less polished after they went in house. Zoic's early work is still incredible, but back then they still kept the biological components minimal or they did them practically.
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I'm up to Season 3 of TNG and Data keeps telling people that he doesn't have feelings or emotions but he totally does. Is this supposed to be a dramatic irony thing or just conflicting writing?
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skasion posted:They pushed back the premiere to May because the production isn't starting until next month. Also they apparently still haven't cast it yet. 
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Pwnstar posted:I'm up to Season 3 of TNG and Data keeps telling people that he doesn't have feelings or emotions but he totally does. Is this supposed to be a dramatic irony thing or just conflicting writing? They couldn't decide whether he was Spock 2.0 or Pinocchio.
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Pwnstar posted:I'm up to Season 3 of TNG and Data keeps telling people that he doesn't have feelings or emotions but he totally does. Is this supposed to be a dramatic irony thing or just conflicting writing? It's the latter but pretend it's the former.
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It's like they couldn't decide if he just thought or claimed to not have emotions but totally totally did like vulcans, or if he actually was totally incapable of them.
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When in doubt, just think that DATA spends all the time he should be sleeping reviewing Emotions for Spergs data tapes and mimicking them 100% accurately. Data grimaces while fending off a Borg? In his magical mind, he's going "Narrow eyes and furrow brows by a factor of 7. Perform Face Action 35o. Ready servomuscles for rapid action" Later, Crewman Larson enters the lift. Data pauses, tilts head slightly and looks her in the eyes. "Greetings crewman. Are you finding the environmental controls to your liking this evening?"
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Operation -- Annihilate! "Okay, we need one more episode to finish the show. Anyone got any ideas?" "No, we've all run out." "Okay, let's just rip off a Heinlein novel." "Sounds good."
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Pwnstar posted:I'm up to Season 3 of TNG and Data keeps telling people that he doesn't have feelings or emotions but he totally does. Is this supposed to be a dramatic irony thing or just conflicting writing? For fun count the times he uses contractions, especially in the episode when it is a big deal that Lore can. Maybe they transported the wrong android?
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Been trying to get through enterprise with no skipping, and it's so far been pretty enjoyable. But gently caress I had to skip ahead past this Mayweather-centric episode. Oh no he has family drama on his lovely cargo ship. His brother or what ever is challenged by Mr. Starfleet, his mom is momin' around, I don't know I skipped all the cargo ship scenes pretty quickly. The B plot was t'pol watching horror movies and wasn't really much of a B plot at all. Bad episode.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:For fun count the times he uses contractions, especially in the episode when it is a big deal that Lore can. Maybe they transported the wrong android?  Data was a lot more fun before they finally decided on "completely oblivious to all human interactions". I mean, poo poo, his very first scene in Farpoint has him whistling, expressing admiration for humans, and grinning.
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Data was really inconsistent from season to season, episode to episode, scene to scene, and sentence to sentence.
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WickedHate posted:Data was really inconsistent from season to season, episode to episode, scene to scene, and sentence to sentence. True, but the early seasons definitely felt like they were leaning more towards "has emotions, doesn't realize it or know how to deal with them". That seemed to change towards the end of season 2, where Data clearly has no emotions and can't interpret others' emotions. Data's Generations B-plot is the arc he should have had over the course of TNG.
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They couldn't decide how much of a Spock clone they wanted him to be. He was, after all, based on Xon, who was a literal Spock replacement.
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mossyfisk posted:Operation -- Annihilate! Unless I'm completely misremembering, wasn't Heinlein consulted a couple times for TOS? Or was that Harlan Ellison?
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Ellison did a fair bit, I don't believe Heinlein was ever involved although I haven't checked. Onto Season 2 with "Amok Time", or "
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mossyfisk posted:Ellison did a fair bit, I don't believe Heinlein was ever involved although I haven't checked. Roddenberry called up Heinlein to apologize for completely ripping off the Martian flat cat and calling it the tribble. This convinced Heinlein not to sue.
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It's impressive that on a ship thats full of borderline-autists that Barclay manages to stand out at all with his difficulty in social situations. He knew what was up though, spending all day in the holodeck banging hot girls he knows and punching out his boss. Of all of us perhaps he was the most.. human.
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Hmm. When Kai Winn and Elim Garak come out against you, I'd say your hosed Mr Trump. I really hope.
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As an android, I can not emote as it is not part of my programming. Anyway, y'all wanna go hang out in the holodeck? It's super fun, I love it.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:UFC will still exist, though. UFC is obviously the Ultimate Finnegan Championship, and what Kirk's academy roommate got up to after graduation. Imagine that annoying Irish guy from the one TOS episode as this Vince MacMahon figure... Zurui posted:I think y'all have a critical misunderstanding of what "post-scarcity" means. This is from a good few pages back, but James P. Hogan's book Voyage from Yesteryear does something like this. It's more an economy of respect, people do things because they like and/or are good at it, and get recognized for it. Respect/acknowledgement becomes the 'unit of currency' but it's not limited at all - gaining more respect doesn't somehow remove it from other people, it's not a zero-sum game like capitalism. WarLocke fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 12, 2016 |
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Despite ordering them from different websites on different days from different countries through different postal services, these two bad boys arrived within an hour of each other. Looking forward to digging in!
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Ok I'm not even joking Archer is kidnapped or captured in some way every other episode in the last half of season 2, it's a perfect every-other episode pattern.
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WarLocke posted:This is from a good few pages back, but James P. Hogan's book Voyage from Yesteryear does something like this. It's more an economy of respect, people do things because they like and/or are good at it, and get recognized for it. Respect/acknowledgement becomes the 'unit of currency' but it's not limited at all - gaining more respect doesn't somehow remove it from other people, it's not a zero-sum game like capitalism. This is why I like that the Federation unit of currency, when it is rarely mentioned, is the credit -- you're literally getting credit for your accomplishments. 
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Cojawfee posted:As an android, I can not emote as it is not part of my programming. Anyway, y'all wanna go hang out in the holodeck? It's super fun, I love it. I seem to recall Futurama's riff on it was "As a robot I have no emotions, and that makes me sad".
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You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry! 
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Data Graham posted:You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry! Do we have a Robot Devil emoticon? I think we need one.
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Cojawfee posted:I really love the TOS Romulan ships. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmLljk2t8M
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Cojawfee posted:As an android, I can not emote as it is not part of my programming. Anyway, y'all wanna go hang out in the holodeck? It's super fun, I love it. When I rewatched TNG it hit me that they probably should of revealed that he does have emotions, but because he's not human he doesn't feel or express them in the same way and since Data's standard for comparison was humanity he just didn't realise. But instead in Brothers we get the emotion chip and Sung being a weird recluse, who also didn't care that one of his `sons` killed all his neighbours.
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I always assumed Soong's colonist neighbours were a bunch of assholes and so Lore was just emulating his first exposure to humanity, sort of like those AIs that become racist by learning to speak from the internet
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