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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Geostomp posted:

But that would imply that Drudge and Breitbart were wrong and that can't be right. Surely it must be the entire rest of the world that is wrong. Those evil DemonRATs simply corrupted everything. I'm certainly not at fault.

Honestly I'm almost positive if the news ran an article saying stepping in front of a semi would kill you and Briebart ran a response saying it might, but not really, every one of those freepers would walk out in front of speeding semis because they thought Briebart was right

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

I love this example. There was only one debate that year, and it took place two days after the poll was released.


Remember, what Trump said almost ten years ago doesn't count. But this poll from almost 40 years ago does....loving freep

quote:

To: buckalfa

The anecdotal evidence is very flimsy, and polls are total crap. Many evangelical leaders are totally standing up for and defending Trump.

It’s reallllly hard to imagine more than a teensy sliver of people giving up on Trump and preferring Hitlery (because that’s what it is) because of a few seconds of raunchy language 11 years ago.


87 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:45:16 PM by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)

This is priceless. Someone hasn't watched anything of the campaign prior to this apparently. Either that or alzheimers is taking its toll

McGlockenshire posted:

A few snacks from At San Antonio Fundraiser, Trump Attacks Paul Ryan for "Disloyalty" posted by freeper drewh

It's mostly the same "Paul Ryan is a pussy" and "this is the death of the GOP and the rise of a brand new party" and all the other crap we've seen the past few days, but these two stand out.
Folks, what the hell body part did Paul Ryan put into the punch bowl there? Am I missing the metaphor or is freep pulling this out of their rear end?


:freep: TAXES :freep:

BURN ALL THE BRIDGES!!!

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Oct 12, 2016

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Endorsement: We're with Hillary Clinton. Frankly, Donald Trump's dangerous. posted by freeper where's_the_Outrage?

This'll be an endorsement from AL.com, a major Alabama news outlet. Alabama is solid red this year.

the article posted:

Alabama has voted for every Republican candidate since Ronald Reagan, a man that captured our imagination with a hopeful view of America as a shining city upon a hill. Nearly 40 years later, Donald Trump offers a deeply cynical view of an America in ruin, an America that seems to exist only in his own dangerous mind. Even before the revelation of video evidence of Trump making lewd, demeaning comments advocating sexual advances on women against their will, we knew that he was unfit to lead this country. We unite with people across this nation — people of all parties, including an increasing number of Republicans — to reject the pessimism of his candidacy.

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

Even before the revelation of video evidence of Trump making lewd, demeaning comments advocating sexual advances on women against their will,

So now, the liberal view has morphed, from shock at Trump using obscene language, to now saying he’s advocating sexual advances against women’s will?????? Are these people messed up the head??? What the heck??? Where’s this odd interpretation of what he said coming from?????


6 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:00:14 PM by Dilbert San Diego

I mean, on one hand, it's good that they're finally starting to be told this stuff straight up if they can't figure it out for themselves. But still, "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful [women]—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait." is molestey, and "And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." is goddamn sexual assault.

The language has never been the main issue, you goddamn troglodytes.

You want to know what's worse here? No replies at all to that comment. But here's 7, 8, 9, and 10.

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Donald Trump’s dangerous.”

Good.

Let slip the dogs of war.



7 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:01:07 PM by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

Has anyone checked the ownership of this outlet, bet that would prove to be interesting (considering what was discovered about some Ohio rag, found to be part of the WaPo empire, that after years of endorsing Republicans decided not to endorse anyone this year).


8 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:01:29 PM by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)

The article is rather long.

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

Verbosity bespeaks dishonesty.


9 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:01:52 PM by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

Some people are getting paid by the Soros machine to go against Trump.

Vote for Soros then. He only helped send Jews to the death camps.


Wonderful guy to support.


10 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:02:03 PM by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")

BUT MUH SAFE SPACE CONSERVATIVE SITE

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE SITE...

Where is the owner of this site? why is this printed here...
I didn’t come here to read this..I can turn on the media and see it 24/7

hope some one removes this article...it is not needed...JMO.


22 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:07:54 PM by haircutter

One of the great things we've seen this week is a whooole bunch of conservative women waking up to how poo poo their men are.

quote:

To: where's_the_Outrage?

advocating sexual advances on women against their will..

This Clinton/Romney/Ryan talking point is being repeated endlessly, even though it is a lie.

Trump talked about women letting men with power and status have casual sexual contact with them:

"... And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.. Grab them by the .... You can do anything."

The sentence about how women allow stars to do certain things is omitted by the leftists trying to portray Trump as condoning or admitting sexual assault. And that sentence changes the entire meaning of the sentences in the rest of the paragraph.

Trump is making a statement that politically correct feminists don't want to hear - namely that there are plenty of women who are so attracted to men with power, money, and fame, that they are willing to engage in casual sexual activity with those men. Mick Jagger, Dennis Rodman, Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Hugh Hefner, and Simon Cowell are all familiar with that kind of women. As are many politicians.

24 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:09:47 PM by freeandfreezing

quote:

To: Hildy

Don’t say that the country is not worth saving: there are not 7000, but at least 70,000,000, maybe 170,000,000, who have not bowed the knee to Baal. God would have saved Sodom for the sake of ten righteous, and there are far more than ten righteous in every city and town in this land. Let God arise, let His enemies be scattered!


31 posted on 10/11/2016, 7:19:27 PM by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)

There's also a slapfight over what kind of wording to use to describe how horrible America is now, but it's really just stupid and not funny at all.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
I love how they think that there are 150mil+ real American conservatives just waiting to do uh whatever.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Pence chides woman calling for 'revolution' if Clinton wins posted by freeper Timpanagos1

There's a video of the lady in the article

the article posted:

"Our lives depend on this election. Our kids' futures depend on this election and I will tell you just for me, and I don't want this to happen but I will tell you for me personally if Hillary Clinton gets in, I myself, I'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in," she said emotionally.

Pence shook his head a little, saying: "Don't say that."

He added: "There's a revolution coming on November 8. I promise you."

She pressed him: "What are we going to do to safeguard our votes? Because we've seen how the Democratic Party is just crooked, crooked, crooked."

Hey, remember that nut that asked McCain about Obama being a foreigner and McCain defending him? We had no way of knowing that the birthers would be with us for years and years. As we've speculated in this thread, the nuts out there seem to be actively preparing for militia action.

A real campaign would be pushing back against this in a very large and dramatic fashion. But not this campaign. Trump wants them angry and fearful.

I wonder how many posts it'll be before someone accuses her of being a plant or some sort of false flag.

quote:

To: dp0622

The founding fathers would have been shooting by now. And shame on Pence for not understanding that a stolen election is grounds for revolution.


4 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:36:00 PM by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)

quote:

To: Gene Eric

Pence is a republican first. Chiding this woman, instead of saying “I understand your fears but she’s not going to win”, is the same as McCain saying Obama “wouldn’t be bad for America”.


7 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:37:42 PM by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)

It took sixteen posts before someone suggests that an armed revolution is probably a bad idea.

quote:

To: Timpanagos1

Pence was right to correct this sheltered little girl, who likely has even less knowledge about the risks entailed in revolution than most conservatives calling for it. Molly Pitcher she ain’t!


16 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:40:48 PM by Laser_Ray

quote:

To: Timpanagos1

I wouldn’t want to be Hitlery if a revolution breaks out. I know a lot of cops and vets and all of them hate her effin’ guts. I even know a secret service agent if you can believe it, I use to work with him and we stayed good friends. He guarded the Clintons once up in Chappaqua and can’t tell me much because of the job, but I asked him if Hillary was a bitch, and he said “Bill was nice to me”. LOL!


20 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:42:38 PM by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)

quote:

To: Terry Mross

Pence is not admitting what I see and hear... he was on Hannity tonight and was just as relaxed about all this.. it takes a fighting man to win this... if Pence is going to be nice and agreeable... that won’t work with the bunch they are competing against. Nice against evil, loses.

That’s why a Christian man who believes he can be nice and fair.. cannot run in this atmosphere and expect to win. they would run circles around the man...
it’s a fight to the finish and no slacking.

I like Pence... but Trump is the one who will win this with his fighting spirit and outsmarting them if he can in any way he can.. it’s important!very important!


28 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:48:27 PM by frnewsjunkie

quote:

To: All

Remember not to long ago when the government bought up all that hollow point ammo.

Trump is the last chance.

Hopefully Divine Intervention stops the voter fraud.


Seems to me the 2 party system is already writing the script for after the election.


42 posted on 10/11/2016, 8:58:08 PM by 80skid

55 posts in. No false flags. Only one not calling for literal unironic actual revolution, and they're making fun of him.

quote:

To: Laser_Ray

you do realize youre in the minority here right? It is well past time for revolution. Arent you ready Lazer-Boy?


55 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:23:32 PM by Blue Highway

Here's a second poster not advocating armed revolution.

quote:

To: walkingdead

We don’t need a revolution, a massive general strike would bring a Hillary government to its knees. Think what would happen if we could just get 30% of the truckers to strike, and not make deliveries to rat cities for ten days. Most cities have less than a two day supply of food. There are a million peaceful ways to stop the government, violence must be a last resort.


63 posted on 10/11/2016, 9:39:28 PM by Do the math (Doug)

70 posts total. Only two posters even dared to suggest that armed revolution was not the way. Nobody called her a plant, or suggested that the question was a false flag.

I have submitted that thread to the FBI's tip line.

McGlockenshire fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Oct 12, 2016

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 46 hours!

McGlockenshire posted:

To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

“.... it seems that it is no secret that Dems and the Media are in collusion .. “

Yup. And when Anderson Cooper pressed Trump with “you mean you never sexually assaulted any women”...

...that means the Media has a woman Trump sexually harassed waiting in the wings.

That shoe should drop this week or right before the next debate.

More reason why Trump shouldn’t wait around for it, start saturating the airwaves with videos of Bill with all his little girls/women who he’s raped etc.


2 posted on 10/10/2016, 5:35:24 PM by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)

I know, freep, but it's amazing that this guy is 100% convinced that Trump assaulted women, and is lying about it, and that the women will come forward and he does not care. Does not care. Amazing.

Also hilarious that he thinks "Trump is a rapist and that's fine, but look Bill is a rapist and that's horrible" is a good strategy. Like, at least Trump's current strategy is "what I said was just words, Bill actually did it".

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
I love the simultaneous "Trump is ahead by a mile, the media's just trying to discourage us" and "...maybe God will directly intervene and let him win".

TheMaskedChemist
Mar 30, 2010

McGlockenshire posted:

A few snacks from At San Antonio Fundraiser, Trump Attacks Paul Ryan for "Disloyalty" posted by freeper drewh

It's mostly the same "Paul Ryan is a pussy" and "this is the death of the GOP and the rise of a brand new party" and all the other crap we've seen the past few days, but these two stand out.
Folks, what the hell body part did Paul Ryan put into the punch bowl there? Am I missing the metaphor or is freep pulling this out of their rear end?


:freep: TAXES :freep:

Paul Ryan is doing everything he can to ensure that the Republican Party walks out of this election even somewhat intact, and Freep loving HATES him for it. It's amazing.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


It's selfish of me but part of the reason I want Hillary to win is I can't wait to see the dreams of these lazy fascists along with Scott Adams and Ben Garrison crushed along with their idiot candidate.

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?
I want to see if that Freeper who was doing the End of Obama countdown (with a new adjective added each day) starts a Clinton countdown if Trump loses

Acquilae
May 15, 2013

McGlockenshire posted:

70 posts total. Only two posters even dared to suggest that armed revolution was not the way. Nobody called her a plant, or suggested that the question was a false flag.

I have submitted that thread to the FBI's tip line.
Ehhh it'll be like their previous attempts at revolution: keep waiting and hope for someone else to do it, then denounce it as a false flag op when it actually happens and backfires.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Krazyface posted:

I love the simultaneous "Trump is ahead by a mile, the media's just trying to discourage us" and "...maybe God will directly intervene and let him win".

God was supposed to save Romney too.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Yeah, but he was a sinful, non-Christian Mormon. Trump's just sinful!

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

VitalSigns posted:

I know, freep, but it's amazing that this guy is 100% convinced that Trump assaulted women, and is lying about it, and that the women will come forward and he does not care. Does not care. Amazing.

Also hilarious that he thinks "Trump is a rapist and that's fine, but look Bill is a rapist and that's horrible" is a good strategy. Like, at least Trump's current strategy is "what I said was just words, Bill actually did it".

Because the multiple lawsuits already suffered by Trump for sexual assault aren't damaging enough. The guy's a sexual predator and normally freep would be screaming for his head, but no, he's our guy this time so we need to abandon our morals and support this emperor god child

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:

God was supposed to save Romney too.

God does whatever they tell Him to. They pay his salary by being "good Christians" and not murdering people that they don't hate.

SocketWrench posted:

Because the multiple lawsuits already suffered by Trump for sexual assault aren't damaging enough. The guy's a sexual predator and normally freep would be screaming for his head, but no, he's our guy this time so we need to abandon our morals and support this emperor god child

Freepers having morals, that's a good one. These old bastards wouldn't know a what conviction if it bit them on the rear end. All that matters is what is useful to them at this particular moment or having an excuse to be terrible. Trump legitimizes their worst impulses, so they'll forever bow at his feet. He's what they really want, so they will do whatever they must to convince themselves that he's the embodiment of all that is good just like they do to convince themselves that anything they dislike or fear is pure demonic evil.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Oct 12, 2016

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

SocketWrench posted:

Honestly I'm almost positive if the news ran an article saying stepping in front of a semi would kill you and Briebart ran a response saying it might, but not really, every one of those freepers would walk out in front of speeding semis because they thought Briebart was right

You might be surprised how many of them know the sources they trust are wrong and don't care because politics is just a "our team must win" type or sport to them. It's why so many of them are willing to blatantly say they don't care about facts or polls or statistics. As long as their team (Trump) wins it doesn't matter how hard they willingly blocked out reality to make it happen, like that one guy's "Your facts turn to lies in my head" quote or whatever

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
I like the contrast between a) the implication that the "grab em by the pussy" remark was totally not that bad at all and what kind of safe-space lefty feminazi would have a problem with it, and b) the number of posts where Freepers can't bring themselves to type pussy and instead say "p***y" or "pu$$y" or "kitty" or something.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Radish posted:

It's selfish of me but part of the reason I want Hillary to win is I can't wait to see the dreams of these lazy fascists along with Scott Adams and Ben Garrison crushed along with their idiot candidate.

Scott Adams will do his usual "I cast 7th level deflection and (pretended) to support Johnson!! Can't blame me!" bullshit. I dunno where to place Garrison but he's always come off as more of a slightly right guy who's willing to do anything gross for a buck, so it might actually be in his favor so the alt-right can continue to pay him to draw Hillary like a prostitute pig person

Uncle Ulty
Dec 12, 2006

Represent.

quote:

To: usafa92
...

As I have posted before, here in NH all you see are hitlery signs along with all the down ticket dems.
It’s going to be a blood bath for repubs in this state.


72 posted on 10/11/2016, 6:02:55 PM by CapnJack

That's weird - I'm also in NH, and all I see are Trump signs everywhere - I never see any Hillary signs, or even downticket Dem signs. And I'm not even in the boonies, I'm right on the MA border. I wonder where this guy is that seems to be a Dem pocket.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Your daily dose of hate, unrelated to reality in general:

Wall Street Journal: Only One in Five Millennials Has Ever Eaten a Big Mac

quote:

To: C19fan
The death knell has tolled for the Big Mac. Only one in five millennials, aged 18 to 34, has ever tried or knows what a Big Mac tastes like

Far too many millenials are spoiled, entitled hot-house flowers who expect to be treated like pre-schoolers in college and have been taught to turn their collective nose up at one of the great accomplishments of the Western world: cheap, nutritious food. They're in for quite an experience in their 30s when they have to move out of mom's house and fend for themselves.
7 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:57:55 AM by AnotherUnixGeek
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Words likely never uttered about burgers in general, or a Big Mac in particular :freep:

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos
As one of the ones who has tasted a Big Mac, I wish I hadn't.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Icon Of Sin posted:

Words likely never uttered about burgers in general, or a Big Mac in particular :freep:
They might use dubious metrics, but they've definitely been uttered.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I thought I'd stop with that first one, but then I stumbled across this one.


Rasmussen Poll: Trump Cuts Clinton's National Lead to 4 Points

Denial:

quote:

To: mandaladon

Rasmussen has been bought out and now is part to the lame stream media run by the democrats. This is just more click bait

3 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:29:23 AM by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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quote:

To: mandaladon

Is Rasmussen a liberal poll?? If so, this is great news, to see things moving in the right direction.

Some polls are so far off, such as the NBC poll showing HIllary being up by 14 points, that’s it is hard to know if we can believe polls.

So that’s why I ask if anyone knows if Rasmussen leans liberal.

4 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:29:39 AM by Dilbert San Diego
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quote:

To: mandaladon

Pre-debate events.

Sexgate hasn’t boosted Hillary’s lead, which is now well within the MOE.

GOP coup plotters now look even more stupid.

5 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:29:39 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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:siren:ALERT: REALITY INTRUDING:siren:

quote:

To: Dilbert San Diego

Rasmussen has had a pro-Trump house effect this cycle, had him up by 5 or 6 in the third week of September, more than most others at that time.

7 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:31:33 AM by babble-on
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quote:

To: mandaladon

This is another poll that is cause for worry.

24 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:40:51 AM by KC_Conspirator
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That was close, crisis averted!

quote:

To: mandaladon

This is horrible, horrible news for FR’s Concern Troll Contingent! They’re going to have to work overtime to convince us Trump is finished! After-all, they’re just being honest and don’t want to sugar coat reality! /sarc

25 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:41:15 AM by Artcore (Trump 2016!)
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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
It took them four days to notice, but WA Congressman Dave Reichert won’t vote for Trump in wake of comments about women posted by freeper Baynative

Dave Reichert's district is really weird. It includes south and east suburban sprawl from Seattle, a huge chunk of the Cascades, and significantish cities in super-Republican eastern Washington. He probably thinks he'll be safe with this decision given where the population base is, and he's probably right.

quote:

To: Baynative

And Trump was telling the truth. Many (not all) women will gladly bed big shot stars. Instead of accepting a sad observation about society and asking what can be done about it, people are all up in arms over the one who made the observation.


3 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:22:37 AM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
These guys completely missing the point is really starting to get old.

quote:

To: Baynative

Then vote for baby murderer Hillary, you stupid ignorant traitorous dipwad.


7 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:25:27 AM by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")

quote:

To: Baynative

Drop dead, Dave Reichert, you worthless pussy!


8 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:25:30 AM by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)

quote:

To: Baynative

“As a son, husband, father and grandfather I am appalled by Donald Trump’s comments and blatant disrespect for women,” Reichert writes in his statement.

Reichert, you bedwetting demoncrat d!ckless lowlife, why did you listen to the tape?

It's not like Trump called a press conference and said any of these things. If the media aired a sex tape of Trump and his wife stolen from his house, would you comment on his etiquette in the bedroom?/s.

These farkers need to be tarred and feathered.

9 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:25:53 AM by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)

quote:

To: Baynative

Hillary had said and DONE far worse than Trump. Thus, I conclude that Dave Reichert is lying as to his reason for not voting for Trump. Instead, he just revealed his true agenda, which it to help Hillary and the Democrats.


11 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:26:52 AM by apocalypto

quote:

To: HiTech RedNeck

Trump was feeding Bush some macho bullshit that Bush was getting off on. He had no idea he was being secretly recorded and to have to even apologize for making racy comments in legal privacy is ridiculous. What do you say to your wife in your bedroom, Dave? If it ever was released would it mean you had no respect for women? I hate RINO’s as much as liberals... both pussys and limp dicks.


18 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:31:01 AM by sanjuanbob

quote:

To: Electric Graffiti

I'm a father of two daughters in their early 20’s and I can put Donald Trump's comments into context. I know that just saying those things does not mean he doesn't respect women. I know this because I have said far worse in my lifetime and I have nothing but respect for women. Somebody should kick this idiot in the bald patch where his balls use to be.

27 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:35:50 AM by peeps36 (Obama = the skidmark on America's underwear.)

quote:

To: Baynative

One more Republican Establishment LIAR underscores his lack of honesty and principle. This cabal (lef by Paul Ryan) are now so bold they insult our intelligence in broad daylight, IN OUR FACE. And laugh at us.

Folks, camouflaged DO-NOTHING (R)s are doing us all a favor by removing their masks! If they enabled 0bama every step of the way, we can assume with absolute certainty they’ll enable Hitlery. VOTE THEM OUT!!



35 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:45:03 AM by HangUpNow

Shocker: representative of divided district votes moderately!

quote:

To: Baynative

I checked his record - he aligns himself with moderates.


36 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:46:48 AM by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)

quote:

To: Baynative

His district voted for the Dem in the last six POTUS elections and is only R+2. This is the type of district the GOP will lose for good if Trump doesn’t win.


40 posted on 10/12/2016, 8:50:35 AM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)

This probably isn't stdh, and the entire rest of the thread is consumed by stuff like this.

quote:

To: Baynative

I called his DC office yesterday and spoke with them and they referred me to his campaign office here - 425-[snip].

I told both of them I noticed he was not on the list that unendorsed Trump. One told me that he had not endorsed him and I said I knew that and appreciated that he needed to walk a thin line because of the make-up of some of his constituents, so it was probably best not to say anything.

I told them that I had been voting for him and no longer would do so if he came out against Trump. That my family and I are big Trump supporters and would be voting for him. They could tell I was a woman by my voice, I said I don’t use language like that but over the years I’ve had guys tell me what is said in the so-called “locker room”, and, quite frankly, I’ve heard women using some not very nice things. Told them that I’m on a conservative forum and that there are many people that feel the same way and are not happy with the Pubbie admin.

Have they listened to any of the rap music??? I didn’t want to but have been at a stop light next to someone with rap blaring - and this isn’t a recent thing.


I’m going to send him an email and give him a piece of my mind. I suspect that my discussions with his staff may not have been passed along yesterday and/or Ryan got to him.

I am TICKED!!!


46 posted on 10/12/2016, 9:03:08 AM by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and Protect our Troops)

I hope he's stepped in it. I really wanted Dave Ross in congress, not Dave Reichert. Oh well.

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
lmfao "have they listened to any of the rap music".

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Well now, this is interesting.

From NBC PLANNED TO USE TRUMP AUDIO TO INFLUENCE DEBATE, ELECTION posted by freeper AmusedBystander

So, get out your salt shaker, you're going to need it for this one: It's a TMZ article.
  • "Multiple sources connected with NBC" - not inside, not from, but "connected with" - say that the executive team knew about the tape far earlier than reported and they were simply waiting for a strategic time to release it. This conflicts with earlier stories suggesting the tape was only known about the week of the release.
  • Those sources say that "many NBC execs have open disdain for Trump"
  • Those sources say the executives wanted to release it within 48 hours of the debate, but held off because they wanted to maximize the impact and they didn't want it to get buried by Hurricane Matthew coverage. This conflicts with earlier stories suggesting the tape was held for legal review.
  • The leak was allegedly performed by staffers that did not want to wait until after the debate.
  • Access Hollywood's version of the tape minimized how much Billy Bush talked, on purpose. There was no planned disciplinary action against him until the full tape was leaked.
I'm not sure how much of this I buy, but this is going to be freep's smoking gun.

quote:

To: Mr. K

I think if Trump loses our next move will be clear—total boycott of all network TV, not just individually, but as a political movement.

If they take us down we will have to reciprocate.


8 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:19:27 AM by cgbg

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

Well if we had an independent FCC with ethics and morals (yes I know...) then there would be serious questions about allowing nbc to continue to operate.

If we can boycott the nfl effectively, then we can also boycott nbc.

11 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:23:30 AM by pfflier

quote:

To: cgbg

I agree. War is being declared against the MSM. Every economic vehicle we will used to dismantle them. They have severely underestimated the power of the people.


14 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:26:14 AM by Lent

quote:

To: cgbg

I have not watched any TV news for decades. I was a college student when I just knew CBS and the others where trying to lose the Vietnam War. I do not trust any of them. The only time I have the local news on is when there is a storm alert out. I kinda like to know if a tornado is headed my way. I am funny that way.


20 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:30:10 AM by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)

quote:

To: TTFlyer

With all that is known about the top-to-bottom corruption in the Media, the Clinton Machine, Government, and Crony-Capitalists, if in spite of all that the American people elect Hillary Clinton next month, the people richly deserve what’s coming.

It ain't gonna be pretty - I'm moving assets to cash. I'm buying more guns - there will be a revolution and/or riots and definitely more crime - I want to protect myself and my family.

28 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:34:54 AM by 1Old Pro

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

Just when you thought it couldn't get more bizarre. It was an illegal recording of the conversation. From what I read, I had assumed it got into the hands of some political operatives, courtesy of the Bush Dynasty. But NBC released it??? Did they not know or not care that it was recorded illegally by one of their employees while on the job?
Yikes

34 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:39:03 AM by grania (I'm Deplorable)

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

NBC PLANNED TO USE TRUMP AUDIO TO INFLUENCE DEBATE, ELECTION

The manipulators in the media need to be put in fear for their lives and freedom.

38 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:44:50 AM by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")

quote:

To: 1Old Pro

It ain’t gonna be pretty no matter who wins. In fact if Trump wins the street violence, condoned by Obama, will be epic.

Always have on hand access to water, plenty of canned and freeze-dried food, camp stove, water purification tablets/filters, and of course plenty of ammo.



40 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:45:24 AM by TTFlyer

Goddamn I really wish freep had toxx clauses.

quote:

To: TTFlyer

With all that is known about the top-to-bottom corruption in the Media, the Clinton Machine, Government, and Crony-Capitalists, if in spite of all that the American people elect Hillary Clinton next month, the people richly deserve what’s coming.

Two things to add:

1. It is ashamed that true patriots like ourselves are caught in our country's downfall caused by liberalism and socialism.

2. The Percentage that Hillary get this election (win or lose) will be the minimum percentage that a democrat will receive in any presidential election.

41 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:45:40 AM by wright2bear

gently caress the first amendment guys, amirite?

quote:

To: pfflier

Well if we had an independent FCC with ethics and morals (yes I know...) then there would be serious questions about allowing nbc to continue to operate. If we can boycott the nfl effectively, then we can also boycott nbc.

If Trump wins, he should issue an "executive order" to raid the offices of NBC and shut down all operations, and then use their own transmitting equipment to accuse them of violating RICO statutes, colluding to manipulate a Federal Election, Discriminating in their hiring process, and violating any other law of which I could think.

We need to start cutting off heads. Till we start cutting off some heads, they aren't going to get the message.

47 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:50:05 AM by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")

quote:

To: DiogenesLamp

decades ago conservative should have gone after the news anchors.

Dug into their personal lives, caught them doing various things, saying various things and DESTROYED them.



52 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:57:35 AM by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

Why don’t Trump hold massive demonstrations outside MSM offices?


63 posted on 10/12/2016, 11:04:56 AM by eekitsagreek
Well, he already has people spitting on reporters and chanting "CNN sucks" at rallies, so...

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

A person would have to be BRAIN DEAD not to interpret the timing of the release of the tape as a DELIBERATE move to influence the debate in favor of Hitlary as a DISTRACTION away from her WIKILEAKS NIGHTMARE.

Not sure which was released first, the tape or the DAMNING Wikileaks release but it is quite OBVIOUS why the tape was released when it was.

HOW MUCH DID TEAM HILLARY PAY BILLY BUSH FOR THE HIT ON TRUMP? He knew he would lose his job, so.. HOW MUCH DID HILLARY PAY HIM?

71 posted on 10/12/2016, 11:28:30 AM by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
For the record, the tape went up half an hour before wikileaks started with their series of dumps. The first dump, by the way, was a whole lot of nothing.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Here's another thing that this guy is posting all over freep. Sourced from the thread above.

quote:

To: AmusedBystander

US MEDIA AND THE MARXIST FRANKFURT SCHOOL
Still perplexed about WHY this CRAP keeps happening in and to this country and just never seems to end? This will clear it all up!
THE US MEDIA and OTHER CENTERS OF INFLUENCE AND THE MARXIST FRANKFURT SCHOOL!

This long forgotten – or completely UNKNOWN among the “snowflakes” and “yutes” — HISTORY of the close relationship between the leftist “educated” (indoctrinated is more like it) “pseudo elite” dumb asses being churned out of colleges and universities here and the Marxist socialism (which, if not strangled in its crib, has ALWAYS morphed into communism) that has failed everywhere it has been tried may aid your understanding of the media’s vicious hatred of Trump and his supporters (the now infamous “DEPLORABLES”).

The sad fact is that the media here is overwhelmingly populated by these deluded dumb asses! Any nefarious, otherwise disreputable act by them is acceptable — even encouraged — because, according to Marxist/socialist methodology, all that matters is “THE STRUGGLE” for their insane Utopian workers’ paradise where all will be equal but some — including most of THEM — will be more equal than others!

You may be growing weary of hearing this but I’ll keep reminding folks until we reach the critical mass needed to defeat them. During Hitler’s rise to power as head of the Nazi (National SOCIALIST) Party in the 30s, he was greatly aided by one Ernst Rohm, head of the SA. Once Hitler had gained total control of Germany, in 1934 he purged (as in KILLED!) the party of EVERY member he felt might challenge his position. His old friend, Herr Rohm was rewarded for his help with a bullet in his brain in a jail cell!

Should this — this — WOMAN and her criminal crew prevail in November, it is my fervent prayer that those who aided her rise suffer similar fates — especially those in the media who have committed countless acts of the sort now the norm in the mendacious media here.

Think her election is impossible? The most dangerous phrase in ANY language is “Why THAT could NEVER HAPPEN HERE!”

I believe the expression that best characterizes the relationship between the media and the Clintons is the old one from the 50s: “FELLOW TRAVELERS”! You “snowflakes”and “yutes” will need to look it up as I doubt your teachers brought it to your attention.

Years ago, Dr. Gary North predicted that the radical left would capture America with the insane and human nature denying goal of “transforming” it into an egalitarian unicorn and rainbow Utopia by “capturing the ROBES”. By that, he meant those institutions we granted various levels of authority over us and our affairs: The clergy, the judiciary... and the ACADEMICS.

The roots of the problems in academia flow back to something referred to as the Frankfurt School and their 1935 move to COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY and the spread of Marxist thought (now there’s an oxymoron for ya’!) into every area of learning here.

A prime example of the rot now endemic in the academy is the COLUMBIA SCHOOL OF “JOURNALISM”. It is THE premier center for spreading Marxism here in America and it has been incredibly successful in its destruction of traditional and American values. Not only do its direct graduates permeate the media here, but many of them also double as teachers in lesser known institutions of media instruction. Herein lies the genesis of Limbaugh’s descriptive expression “Driveby Media”. Now you know why virtually every so-called “journalist” HATES folks like us.

The Wikipedia entry says that the “...FRANKFURT SCHOOL was founded in 1923 by Carl Grünberg, a Marxist legal and political professor at the University of Vienna,[10] as an adjunct of the University of Frankfurt; it was the first Marxist-oriented research center affiliated with a major German university.[3] However, the school can trace its earliest roots back to Felix Weil, who used money from his father’s grain business to finance the Institute. “

Isn’t it fascinating that here is an early instance of a Marxist ANTI-CAPITALIST organization financing itself with the hated PROFITS of a capitalist business? The hypocrisy is mind-boggling and a precursor to how the wealthy capitalists here fund the Clinton and other leftist machines!

More recent examples of that dichotomy would be the offspring of John D. Rockefeller who have largely spent their lives promoting socialism (using other people’s money, of course). And recently Bill Gates treated us to the wisdom that only SOCIALISM can solve the woes of this world. What these folks refuse to acknowledge that even THEY do not possess sufficient personal wealth to make a dent in those woes if the recipients of that largess are incapable of sustaining themselves once the largess stops flowing or is exhausted.

If one examines the life of Karl Marx, we find a bum who abandoned his wife and family to advance the socialist struggle and never worked or dirtied his hands at day in his life. That sort of thing was for the bourgeoisie, not such an exalted personage as himself. His guilt over that abandonment probably explains Karl’s fondness for state welfare paid for by the labor of others so that his abandoned family wouldn’t perish (not that a mensch like Karl gave a rat’s rear end).
Dick Bachert 8/2016


58 posted on 10/12/2016, 11:00:29 AM by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH ESTATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. TREASON TRIALS COMING?)

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Man, I'm loving these wikileaks ones. And by love I mean dread. Almost every single one of them has been so amazingly boring but that hasn't stopped the right wing nuts from whipping themselves into a frenzy.

From WikiLeaks: Podesta and Left-Wing Activist Plot ‘Catholic Spring’ posted by freeper Trump_vs_Evil_Witch, what a delightful name.

The lovely article doesn't even link to the email itself. Here's what some wonk wrote.

quote:

Hi, John,

This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage even though 98% of Catholic women (and their conjugal partners) have used contraception has me thinking . . . There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church. Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could happen. The Bishops will undoubtedly continue the fight. Does the Catholic Hospital Association support of the Administration's new policy, together with "the 98%" create an opportunity?

Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc. Even if the idea isn't crazy, I don't qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about how one would "plant the seeds of the revolution," or who would plant them. Just wondering . . .

Podesta replies,

quote:

We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up. I'll discuss with Tara. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is the other person to consult.

There's nothing new here. They've been trying to use birth control as a wedge issue for ages. But here's what the lovely freep article writes about Podesta's response.

the article posted:

In response, Podesta assures Newman to rest easy for he and his progressive pals have already created organizations explicitly designed to infiltrate the Catholic Church with progressive ideology, though he cautions that the time may not be right for full revolution — just yet.

And with the rhetoric turned up that high, it's only natural that the OP writes

quote:

Hillary's team conspiring to subvert Roman Catholic Church into the one-world, new age, globalist conspiracy......(totally anti-Christ agenda)

1 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:15:01 AM by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Yup, "Can we use birth control as a wedge issue to drive reform in the Catholic church?" becomes "NEW AGE GLOBALIST CONSPIRACY!!!11"

quote:

To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

They have zero respect for any religion except those they can make political points with, at the moment.

Podesta, say this about islam. Try not to be a massive hypocrite.


2 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:17:34 AM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)

quote:

To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

LUCIFER aka Beelzebub (or Soros) should be in chains - instead pulling strings for presidential candidates.


6 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:29:43 AM by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")

quote:

To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

I am not Roman catholic, but I am incredibly APPALLED by this!

How DARE they do something like that!



7 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:37:34 AM by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)

quote:

To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Sigh! We could really use Antonin Scalia, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, and Mother Angelica now.

We still do have some great Christian warriors out there, but unfortunately with so many lukewarm folks, we are outnumbered. Our reliance on the providence of Almighty God, His Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit should be our priority at this time, as they are mighty indeed.

Onward Christian soldiers.


8 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:38:45 AM by Gumdrop

quote:

To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

The best response of the Catholic church would to be to do the unexpected. Reform all Catholic educational institutions to forbid the teaching of any form of socialism. Fire all academics who profess to be socialists, and tell all Catholics who embrace socialism that it is an expression of atheism and the cardinal sin of vanity, and is antithetical to the belief in God and their hope for salvation, leading only to death and oblivion.


15 posted on 10/12/2016, 11:34:56 AM by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost
You know, it won't be FReepers, but I am legit scared for what some of these fringe, extreme right-wing nutjobs will do when Trump loses. Like, a "revolution" is way too strong a word, but people committing terroristic acts on US soil in the name of "FREEDUMB" and misguided rage is a very, very real possibility. There are enough psychos who think that those kinds of actions would be a good idea to make me honestly believe that poo poo will actually go down, and the threats made thus far have at least some base in reality.

I'm sure also that because I live in the south that these ideas could come to fruition much easier than the rest of the country, what with the unending supply of guns and ignorance.

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

McGlockenshire posted:

To: AmusedBystander

Well if we had an independent FCC with ethics and morals (yes I know...) then there would be serious questions about allowing nbc to continue to operate.

If we can boycott the nfl effectively, then we can also boycott nbc.

11 posted on 10/12/2016, 10:23:30 AM by pfflier

Ah, yes, I remember when the NFL shuttered thanks to the freep boycott.

I know it's trivial, but it's the little freep things that keep me going.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

quote:

So now, the liberal view has morphed, from shock at Trump using obscene language, to now saying he’s advocating sexual advances against women’s will?????? Are these people messed up the head??? What the heck??? Where’s this odd interpretation of what he said coming from?????

Trump: "I suck cock."

Freep: "Those dumb liberals really think Trump was talking about giving blowjobs? Where's that odd interpretation come from? Trump was obviously talking about when you eat chicken soup, and you slurp up the broth after the noodles are gone. Any idiot five year old could figure out that's what he meant."

quote:

I know that just saying those things does not mean he doesn't respect women. I know this because I have said far worse in my lifetime and I have nothing but respect for women.

I have nothing but respect for women, that's why I talk about them as if they're objects with the sole purpose of giving me sexual pleasure.

quote:

if Pence is going to be nice and agreeable... that won’t work with the bunch they are competing against. Nice against evil, loses.

Good to see this Freeper gets his outlook on life from the movie Spaceballs.

Pontius Pilate posted:

Ah, yes, I remember when the NFL shuttered thanks to the freep boycott.

I know it's trivial, but it's the little freep things that keep me going.

That's a good joke there. Everybody knows the NFL shuttered due to Conservapedia's boycott.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zipperelli. posted:

You know, it won't be FReepers, but I am legit scared for what some of these fringe, extreme right-wing nutjobs will do when Trump loses. Like, a "revolution" is way too strong a word, but people committing terroristic acts on US soil in the name of "FREEDUMB" and misguided rage is a very, very real possibility. There are enough psychos who think that those kinds of actions would be a good idea to make me honestly believe that poo poo will actually go down, and the threats made thus far have at least some base in reality.

I'm sure also that because I live in the south that these ideas could come to fruition much easier than the rest of the country, what with the unending supply of guns and ignorance.

I mean, Obama's election was also the "last chance America has!" and there was a lot of talk about revolution, but all we got was 5 people dead in a Walmart shooting two years later and a failed occupation that only resulted in one dead terrorist at the beginning of 2016. For every one person willing to commit violence and sacrifice their life for the cause, there's 500,000 who can't be arsed to get off the couch or give up Social Security.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

chitoryu12 posted:

I mean, Obama's election was also the "last chance America has!" and there was a lot of talk about revolution, but all we got was 5 people dead in a Walmart shooting two years later and a failed occupation that only resulted in one dead terrorist at the beginning of 2016. For every one person willing to commit violence and sacrifice their life for the cause, there's 500,000 who can't be arsed to get off the couch or give up Social Security.

But don't worry, there's a lot of powder and it's very dry.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zanzibar Ham posted:

But don't worry, there's a lot of powder and it's very dry.

Again, we've thought this for a long time. I have no doubt that we'll see some kind of response, like increased hate crimes, but I don't think we're at risk of an attempted revolution or anything (at least nothing bigger than Malheur, which was a few dozen unprepared ranchers and suburbanites who forgot to bring food and mostly ran away as soon as it looked like they'd get arrested). For all the crap we get, the United States is a pretty stable first world nation with little danger in daily life. We're simply not the kind of society that's susceptible to mass uprisings or an American Spring or anything like that.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

chitoryu12 posted:

Again, we've thought this for a long time. I have no doubt that we'll see some kind of response, like increased hate crimes, but I don't think we're at risk of an attempted revolution or anything (at least nothing bigger than Malheur, which was a few dozen unprepared ranchers and suburbanites who forgot to bring food and mostly ran away as soon as it looked like they'd get arrested). For all the crap we get, the United States is a pretty stable first world nation with little danger in daily life. We're simply not the kind of society that's susceptible to mass uprisings or an American Spring or anything like that.

Yeah, the powder's never dry enough.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Zipperelli. posted:

Like, a "revolution" is way too strong a word, but people committing terroristic acts on US soil in the name of "FREEDUMB" and misguided rage is a very, very real possibility.
There's an ever-increasing number of people that are worried about this, and militia concerns are beginning to hit the MSM.

Pontius Pilate posted:

Ah, yes, I remember when the NFL shuttered thanks to the freep boycott.
As it happens, NFL ratings are down by a huge chunk. An NFL internal memo got leaked last week...
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/784428496089182208
They are confident that player protests are not a significant reason for the ratings decline.



From USC Dornsife/LA Times Poll: 10/12 -- Trump down 1.3, Clinton up 1.1 -- CLINTON IN LEAD !!! posted by freeper BlessedBeGod

These keywords are fun: 2016polls; allislost; catowner; chickenlittles; debbiedowners; frconcerntrolls; handsabandonship; handwringing; itsover; jumpoutofthewindow; ohno; ratsfleeingship; skyisfalling; wristslitters

... cat owner?

This is that infamous tracking poll. It's the only one that's been reliably pro-Trump lately. Nate Cohn of the New York Times dug into the data to figure out why.

NYT posted:

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.

The polls we see released every day aren't raw data. The data is massaged and manipulated in order to try and transform the random sample polled into a better representation of what the pollster thinks the actual voter turnout will be. This can cause some individual people to have their responses highly weighed and others to be weighed less. Apparently it's normal for you to cap the weights, but this poll doesn't do that.

NYT posted:

Jill Darling, the survey director at the U.S.C. Center for Economic and Social Research, noted that they had decided not to “trim” the weights (that’s when a poll prevents one person from being weighted up by more than some amount, like five or 10) because the sample would otherwise underrepresent African-American and young voters.

This makes sense. Gallup got itself into trouble for this reason in 2012: It trimmed its weights, and nonwhite voters were underrepresented.

In general, the choice in “trimming” weights is between bias and variance in the results of the poll. If you trim the weights, your sample will be biased — it might not include enough of the voters who tend to be underrepresented. If you don’t trim the weights, a few heavily weighted respondents could have the power to sway the survey. The poll might be a little noisier, and the margin of error higher (note that the margin of error on the U.S.C./LAT poll for black voters surges every time the heavily weighted young black voter enters the survey).

But the U.S.C./LAT poll is a panel — which means it recontacts the same voters over and over — and so it wound up with the worst of both worlds.

So now we're in a position where we know that this poll has one specific pro-Trump voter in an underrepresented demographic that is getting their opinion amplified out of proportion. But freep doesn't know, and they don't care.

quote:

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Reagan was down 6 in mid October.

14 posted on 10/12/2016, 12:28:51 AM by conservative98

Yep, and he won in a landslide. Polls were way off. I wish the nervous nellie freepers would focus on that instead of running around this site in a panic trying to bring everyone down. Oh wait, that is their purpose........

17 posted on 10/12/2016, 12:32:39 AM by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Nobody I know and nobody I talk to in public says they are voting for Hillary but just about everybody concedes that she will win. What am I missing?


32 posted on 10/12/2016, 1:07:13 AM by 38special (For real, y'all.)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Mangina as everywhere are wringing their hands.


45 posted on 10/12/2016, 1:39:00 AM by WMarshal (Trump 2016)

quote:

To: Dog

It is not the tape— it is Traitor coward Ryan effect—


46 posted on 10/12/2016, 1:46:46 AM by freespirit2012

quote:

To: freespirit2012

The GOP establishment abandoning Trump has done its damage.

As he warned yesterday, its going to make much harder for him to win.

Today’s poll is proof that he was right.

We not just fighting the MSM and the Democrats - we’re fighting our party that is supposed to be on our side and which doesn’t want to win.

Its maddening and I’m not surprised Hillary is up today.


47 posted on 10/12/2016, 1:50:36 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

quote:

To: goldstategop

I agree— If the house would get rid of Ryan as the Speaker, I bet Trump would gain 2 or 3 points in the polls.


51 posted on 10/12/2016, 1:59:39 AM by freespirit2012

quote:

To: LegendHasIt

This is accurate.

The race is essentially tied.


MSM polls that show a double digit lead for Hillary are liars’ polls.

Trump can still eke it out. People are waiting for the third debate.

And Hillary hasn’t really benefited from Sexgate.


54 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:11:07 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

quote:

To: dp0622

Even if the worst fears happen, I’d expect Trump to have a large number of lawyers working on uncovering vote fraud.


55 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:16:21 AM by Does so (Vote for Hillary...Stay Home...==8-O)

quote:

To: goldstategop

I agree. These polls are all over the place but they’re meant to depress our vote. People have to wake up and realize this is the biggest propaganda operation being perpetrated against the American people in our history, and it should anger and sicken you. We can’t let these people destroy our freedom and our nation. You nervous nellies and palm sweaters out there need to stop feeling helpless. Are we just gonna roll over and give up now?


61 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:34:18 AM by dowcaet (.)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

There is no poll. There is no news.

They are the establishment and they want Hitlery. They are the gaslighters.


63 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:39:48 AM by CincyRichieRich (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy...)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

This is not a poll.

Trump rallies are polls.

Clinton rallies are polls.

Who will turnout?


64 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:42:37 AM by CincyRichieRich (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy...)

quote:

To: BinaryBoy

The poll puts large emphasis on intention to vote by candidate. Trump has dropped 2 points there from 85.3 to 83.5 in the past 2 days.

The largest losses has been among low t men. The past 2 days worth of sampling had to have been brutal. I suspect most of the loss is among those that are GOP party line voters. The party riff has been more damaging than the tape no doubt.


67 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:48:08 AM by phoneman08

Jesus, this is disgusting.

quote:

To: Dog

“If they held that tape until the last weekend before the election it would have been a death blow but someone panicked and I keep asking WHY?”

They have more audio/video ready to release, Gloria Allred is rounding up the "abused" Trump floozies. Plenty of dry powder is my guess.

69 posted on 10/12/2016, 2:57:45 AM by DAC21

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t get how he could be doing worse after the debate than he was in immediate aftermath of the tape.


76 posted on 10/12/2016, 3:19:05 AM by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Ironically, if you look at the detail, Trump is not down due to a collapse in female support. What killed him was a sharp erosion of male support, youth, and Blacks. The fact that this trend is starting two days after the debate is very troubling in this 7 day moving average poll. All of us need to redouble our efforts, engage and convince as many of your family and friends. The media continues to bury the wiki leaks revelations and promote only Trump negatives. Fighting through this is our best hope. Not good given the limited time and the fact that early voting has begun.


78 posted on 10/12/2016, 3:21:10 AM by Nicojones

Freeper dp0622 is coming unglued.

quote:

To: who knows what evil?

She’s destroyed the ME, Western Europe (though they let her) and took us to the brink of war with russia!

but minorities and women live in a fake world where “empowerment” and “you go girl” and “blm” and “la raza” and “gay marriage” and “transgender rights” are more important that a financial collapse, a terrorist attack or a nuke war.


84 posted on 10/12/2016, 3:28:06 AM by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Then the country is filled with feminist and metrosexuals and lovers of baby murder.

This race is in the hands of God Almighty and no one else.

The tape my rear end. If this is all it takes to change peoples minds then what a bunch of weak-rear end mindless drones.

drat THE POLLS!!! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!



90 posted on 10/12/2016, 3:44:32 AM by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)

Jesus. :psyduck:

quote:

To: BeadCounter

Re: possible World War 3...if Hillary wins, the Russians will launch. If Trump wins, Obama will launch.


91 posted on 10/12/2016, 3:45:48 AM by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...https://www.siameserescue.com)

Guys, it's not that wikileaks has nothing, it's

quote:

To: WildHighlander57

The Wikileaks are so damning, and should be the end to her candidacy. They aren’t even touching her and the reason is........there are too many, they are too confusing, media is hiding them and people really don’t care. So don’t count on Wikileaks.


99 posted on 10/12/2016, 4:01:42 AM by Toespi

quote:

To: All

Is everyone forgetting that God is still in control?! Have some faith. Trump is being used by God and, when that is the case, God cannot be stopped!


119 posted on 10/12/2016, 4:46:24 AM by BlackFemaleArmyCaptain (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)

Oh wow, they noticed.

quote:

To: libh8er

Are people that stupid that their support for a candidate wavers depending on the news story of the day ?

That factor, more than any other, is what causes me to view this poll as hinky. The single day shifts in the poll report, require single day shifts 7 times bigger. Drop Trump by 1 point takes a 7 point drop in a one day sample.

Looking just at the female/male breakout, the drop today is ALL MALE! That's weird too. So is the general contour of the African American graph.

All of those sudden moves require much larger single average moves, among what is supposedly a (mostly) fixed group of people polled. My bottom line is I don't find the poll credible.


Either that, or it's as you say. People treat the question like "what would you like for lunch today" and give their answer about the same amount of thought.

123 posted on 10/12/2016, 4:55:35 AM by Cboldt

Oops, no, wait, nevermind.

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

Collusion

125 posted on 10/12/2016, 4:59:06 AM by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)

quote:

To: mrs9x

I’ve not heard ONE person....in my work, friend, family, board/club circles mention this stinking tape.

The ONLY ones I’ve heard mention it are the MSM - non-stop/24/7 - when I’m at the airport, doctor, salon, etc.

So....my take is that only the LIV’s are being *polled*.



137 posted on 10/12/2016, 5:34:34 AM by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again : )


quote:

To: dp0622

but minorities and women live in a fake world where “empowerment” and “you go girl” and “blm” and “la raza” and “gay marriage” and “transgender rights” are more important that a financial collapse, a terrorist attack or a nuke war.

Most minority communities are essentially dens of the devil. Godless, violent, ruled by gang warlords where murder and torture are commonplace. We have domestic terrorism right no and they are more dangerous than the Islamists, they are named Towanda and Lemangello. America will begin voting in large majorities for law and order candidates when idiot white college educated women are really embroiled in this urban terrorism. When gays and transgenders are robbed and murdered in numbers far beyond the occasional. Hitlery and her rainbow of incompetents will not be able conjure enough protests to wish this problem away. No level of nice safe speech will be able to combat the rampant crime and lawlessness which is coming.

155 posted on 10/12/2016, 6:26:55 AM by pburgh01

This is clearly copy/paste, but oh boy are they winding up the end of the world poo poo

quote:

To: BlessedBeGod

God is in charge of everything. He already knows what will happen in the present as well in the end times. He is in total control of our destiny. He allows evil to rise up and show its ugly head but at the same time, He is compassionate and will intervene when He hears the cries of the faithful whose prayers are sincere. Do not fear, for the day will come when the ones who believe in Him will be spared the horrors of the end times. I believe we are living in that time when Jesus Christ will soon appear in all His glory. That time will be the beginning of the rapture.

The word "rapture" does not occur in the Bible. The concept of the rapture, though, is clearly taught in Scripture. The rapture of the church is the event in which God removes all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation period. The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 describes the rapture as God resurrecting all believers who have died, giving them glorified bodies, and then departing the earth with those believers who were still alive, who have also been given glorified bodies. "For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever" (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

The rapture will be instantaneous in nature and we will, at that time, receive glorified bodies. "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed - in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed" (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

The rapture is the glorious event we should all be longing for. We will finally be free from sin. We will be in God's presence forever. There is far too much debate over the meaning and scope of the rapture. This is not God’s intent. Rather, in regards to the rapture, God wants us to “encourage each other with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:18).

178 posted on 10/12/2016, 7:44:12 AM by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

As it happens, NFL ratings are down by a huge chunk. An NFL internal memo got leaked last week...
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/784428496089182208
They are confident that player protests are not a significant reason for the ratings decline.

Is this just covering television network ratings? I think TV in general has taken a big hit because of the ease with which it can be watched at your leisure online now, so people are becoming less tied to the TV to see stuff they're interested in. I know the Olympics this year suffered a big ratings hit because everyone just kept up with online streams and whatnot.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

quote:

Gloria Allred is rounding up the "abused" Trump floozies.

The women our guy abused are just sluts who are lying about it to make him look bad! The women their guy abused are purehearted honest souls who prove he's a rapist!

Ugh.

quote:

Most minority communities are essentially dens of the devil. Godless, violent, ruled by gang warlords where murder and torture are commonplace. We have domestic terrorism right no and they are more dangerous than the Islamists, they are named Towanda and Lemangello.

Oh hi Stormfront, nice to see you here on Freep.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

The Oath Breaker's about to hit warphead nine Kaptain!

Zipperelli. posted:

You know, it won't be FReepers, but I am legit scared for what some of these fringe, extreme right-wing nutjobs will do when Trump loses. Like, a "revolution" is way too strong a word, but people committing terroristic acts on US soil in the name of "FREEDUMB" and misguided rage is a very, very real possibility. There are enough psychos who think that those kinds of actions would be a good idea to make me honestly believe that poo poo will actually go down, and the threats made thus far have at least some base in reality.

I'm sure also that because I live in the south that these ideas could come to fruition much easier than the rest of the country, what with the unending supply of guns and ignorance.

I'm expecting to see another run on ammunition and gun sales if Hillary wins, similar to what happened shortly after Newtown. I'm predicting a lot of of the usual 'Gonna take our guns!' fearmongering that happens whenever a Democrat takes power but I'm half-wondering if it won't be a self-fulfilling prophecy this time because some brainwashed wingnut decides to take a shot at Clinton.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Uncle Ulty posted:

That's weird - I'm also in NH, and all I see are Trump signs everywhere - I never see any Hillary signs, or even downticket Dem signs. And I'm not even in the boonies, I'm right on the MA border. I wonder where this guy is that seems to be a Dem pocket.

In reality's defense, he probably saw one and got pissed

Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

lmfao "have they listened to any of the rap music".

The party of personal responsibility doesn't want their leader to take personal responsibility...shocker

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 12, 2016

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