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Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Carth Dookie posted:

How long have you been riding?

As for the Shiver I think there's a guy in here who has/had one but I don't remember there being anything obviously ridiculous about them other than the usual Italian-bike stuff.

Iirc, the goon with the shiver has only one complaint: a wider turning radius than your average big rig.

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BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/5782588201.html

This has been for sale for a couple of months now. I wonder how low he'd go.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Nibbler posted:

How crazy is the jump from an xt250 to a Shiver 750 beyond the obvious? I'm looking for a 2nd bike that will serve a different purpose. Also is that bike goon approved or in some way stupid and/or a death sentence?

Seat height and overall weight is a concern for me personally and I prefer more of an upright seating position after coming from a dirt bike background.

The torque will be a big surprise, but the RBW lets you back that right off (start in Rain mode and it lops 20% off the power across the rev range and slackens the throttle response). It's quite a high seat for a naked, and quite top-heavy at low speeds, so that'll also be a big jump for you to make. Once you get over that it's a very forgiving bike, and one that put up with 6 years of London commuting with only occasional utter, utter fiascos.

It's not *amazingly* Italian but does have a couple of vices. Older (pre 2010MY) bikes have weak clutch springs that can fail and make the clutch slip, so if you're looking at an older one make sure the PO has had them replaced. The MAP sensors fail a lot, and like to fail in a way that makes the ECU think every single component has broken - if you don't have access to a mechanic who knows of Aprilia and their wily ways they can end up spending thousands trying to track a problem in a £30 component.

Best mod is a Fat Duc O2 emulator - ten seconds to fit and it totally smooths out the slightly snatch low-speed throttle response.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Chichevache posted:

Iirc, the goon with the shiver has only one complaint: a wider turning radius than your average big rig.

Yeah that too but years of Italian bike ownership has completely blinded me to that.

qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES
I'm not really sure where to post this question, but here we go anyways.

Due to a few different things, I'm looking to sell my R1200GS. It's a 2005 and has pretty low miles (37k), is in good shape with some new tires, nice panniers, and no physical or mechanical issues to note.

How can I go about finding the value of this thing? Are the NADA/KBB numbers a fair place to start?

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
Can anyone identify the fairing on this SV?



The guy that owns it "doesn't know much about bikes" so that's always a good sign

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
GSXR front fairing, stock 1st gen SV rear

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
Ah thanks, I see it now, the lights were throwing me off. Can't decide if it looks clean enough that it's worth the 2.5 hour drive back to my hometown.

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/5801672653.html

He said he'd take $1950 for it but even at that point I'm kind of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

AncientTV posted:

Ah thanks, I see it now, the lights were throwing me off. Can't decide if it looks clean enough that it's worth the 2.5 hour drive back to my hometown.

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/5801672653.html

He said he'd take $1950 for it but even at that point I'm kind of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the ol' copy of a ducati, ducati copy

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
That was someones track toy at some point. Not necessarily a bad thing.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

qutius posted:

I'm not really sure where to post this question, but here we go anyways.

Due to a few different things, I'm looking to sell my R1200GS. It's a 2005 and has pretty low miles (37k), is in good shape with some new tires, nice panniers, and no physical or mechanical issues to note.

How can I go about finding the value of this thing? Are the NADA/KBB numbers a fair place to start?

Go sign up for advrider.com and look at what similar bikes have sold for (then try selling yours there as well).

qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES

builds character posted:

Go sign up for advrider.com and look at what similar bikes have sold for (then try selling yours there as well).

duh. perfect advice, not sure how I forgot about that site. thanks!

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

BlackMK4 posted:

That was someones track toy at some point. Not necessarily a bad thing.

As a dude daily riding a former track toy, this man is very correct. Other than the fact that the undersized battery just crapped out on me :argh:

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
Went and looked at that SV. Turns out it was a sketchy car dealership using the previous owners pictures to list it under 'by owner'. It was also a total shitpile and the dude wouldn't budge on the price :argh:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Just as well, don't give your money to lovely companies.

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
After the drive over I just wanted something to take home, but yeah I wasn't about to buy it for anymore than like a grand. The dude didn't know poo poo about bikes and was insistent that a poorly modified 15 year old SV was "easily worth two grand, it's frankly a steal" :rolleyes:

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks
I need some advice and I decided to stop mucking up the 'good ads in your area' thread.

I've ridden a bunch of UJMs in my youth and had a Ninjette for a couple of years.

I'm looking for a dualsport under $3k (really I was looking for a UJM/'standard' that's not more than 2 decades old, but I can't find anything reasonable on craigslist). I want something light and upright. Lower is better, my inseam is 29-30". Mostly for my 2.5 mile commute, to ride around town, take some day trips, and trails mayyybe. Highway riding is not the most important, but it'd be nice if I'm not getting tossed around too much.

Can I just post a bunch of craigslist bikes and someone can tell me if they are reasonable? I don't expect anyone to go through the links but I put them there just in case. Particularly with the older models where I won't know if there's anything to watch out for. Are there other bikes I should be looking for?

Suzukis
Suzuki DR200 SE - $2000 - https://yubasutter.craigslist.org/mcy/5819991127.html
2007 Suzuki DRZ-250 - 2000 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5789687351.html
SUZUKI DR350S ENDURO " DUAL SPORT " - $1600 - https://goldcountry.craigslist.org/mcy/5816656404.html
2000 DRZ 400 Suzuki - $2200 - https://redding.craigslist.org/mcy/5798004742.html
2005 drz 400 sm supermoto dual sport - $3500 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5827219046.html <-breaking budget, is the SM designation really worth more than all these other bikes?
1996 Suzuki DR650 w/lots of extras - $2000 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5827557190.html
1994 Suzuki DR650 dual sport - $2800 - https://redding.craigslist.org/mcy/5793137001.html

Kawis
1988 Kawasaki - KLR 250 - Dual Sport Bike - $1750 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5792765218.html
2003 Kawasaki KLR 250 - $2400 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5823821969.html
2003 kawasaki klx 400 - $2500 - https://mendocino.craigslist.org/mcy/5787950608.html
2005 Kawasaki KLR - $2800 - https://goldcountry.craigslist.org/mcy/5831520482.html
2007 Kawasaki KLR 650 - $2899 - https://chico.craigslist.org/mcd/5828822701.html
2009 KLR 650 - $3000 - https://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/5771274971.html
2009 KLR 650 - Adventure ready! - $3300 - https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5828574700.html

Others
Honda XR400 - $2200 - https://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/5824104775.html
1995 Yamaha XT225 - $2200 - https://goldcountry.craigslist.org/mcy/5809773825.html
2007 Yamaha TW200 - $2700 (REDDING) - https://redding.craigslist.org/mcy/5762241881.html

Note that I can't actually find any used CRF230Ls or CRF250Ls in my area otherwise I think it'd be a done deal.

carcinofuck fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 17, 2016

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
For the suzukis at least, nothing under the DRZ400s are going to be very confidence inspiring at highway speeds. The DRZ400 is no dragster but it can at least safely maneuver traffic at speed on the highway.

I also don't like either of those DRZ400s. The cheap one looks like an E model with no plates (hassle) and also does not have inverted forks or anything (not a supermoto). The more expensive one has a lot of miles but seems to be a fully converted S model which is pretty much the same as the SM. the forks make the biggest difference and if you're not doing a lot of off road riding they are pretty worthwhile (17s also reduce the overall height of the bike.)

pretty sure my SM with dirt wheels on is a seat height of like 37 inches vs ~34/35 with the 17s so full dual sport trim is probably not what you want if you're not comfortable leaning the bike on one foot at stops

also both those dr650s look kinda lovely but im down on those anyway

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks
What if I completely ignore highway performance?

And what about this one:

04 KTM 450 MXC - https://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/5809914160.html

Gonna Send It
Jul 8, 2010

carcinofuck posted:

What if I completely ignore highway performance?

And what about this one:

04 KTM 450 MXC - https://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/5809914160.html

This one doesn't have a plate and there's no (legal) way of getting it plated in CA.

That DR200 looks decent. The $2000 DR650 would be interesting with more and better pics. The rest are either getting long in the tooth, kinda ratty, or not plated and the KLRs are nowhere near lightweight like you want.

Do you happen to live near/in Chico? I could let you sit on my supermoto DRZ if you'd like. I'm a 29" inseam as well and don't have any trouble.
The market around here is pretty crappy, all I seem to see on CL is bikes that are nasty and the owners want what a clean bike would fetch.

Edit: If you were going to ignore highway performance, then I'd get that DR200. It fits all of your criteria and seems to be the cleanest choice.

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks
Thanks that would be great actually. I'm new to the area and I don't know anyone who rides except a couple folks in Yuba. It was one of those guys who recommended a KLR650.

I already messaged the guy with the DR200 since it looked so clean but haven't heard back yet. He's in Yuba, a ride up the 70 shouldn't be too bad, I don't think.

What do you think about this KLX250S:
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5833811768.html

Salvave title, rebuilt engine, is that an automatic no-go? I know it's on the heavier side but the price is right. Just don't know what I'll be getting into.

carcinofuck fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Oct 18, 2016

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I wouldn't, mostly because of the rebuilt motor.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

carcinofuck posted:

Thanks that would be great actually. I'm new to the area and I don't know anyone who rides except a couple folks in Yuba. It was one of those guys who recommended a KLR650.

I already messaged the guy with the DR200 since it looked so clean but haven't heard back yet. He's in Yuba, a ride up the 70 shouldn't be too bad, I don't think.

What do you think about this KLX250S:
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5833811768.html

Salvave title, rebuilt engine, is that an automatic no-go? I know it's on the heavier side but the price is right. Just don't know what I'll be getting into.

It's worth noting that you will 100% want to immediately buy all the bike. It seems bad now, but just wait until you go look at one. "Just to think it over." It will be nigh impossible to resist the sweet siren call of bike over not-bike so bear that in mind in your search your end result will be better if you figure out what you want and then wait for that rather than compromising because you desperately need a bike now.

On that note, you might consider ease of resale in your criteria.

And then buy a tw200.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
carcinofuck if you are having trouble finding good for-sale listings, try posting a want ad. Post what you want and how much you are willing to spend. Something might fall in your lap. I've had good luck that way a couple times.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

clutchpuck posted:

carcinofuck if you are having trouble finding good for-sale listings, try posting a want ad. Post what you want and how much you are willing to spend. Something might fall in your lap. I've had good luck that way a couple times.

Make sure to offer guns or trucks as part of the trade.

Mark David Chapman
Jul 25, 2011
I was looking at this 08 GS500:

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/mcy/5833515681.html

The seller mentioned that there is a leak coming from the fuel line. I was thinking that it would probably be the float or jet?
Add says that the carbs were rebuilt so I figure that at worst someone hosed up and forgot to replace or adjust the float that is now causing the leak. Or maybe I'm being dumb even considering this bike.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Go lowball him with cash in hand if you can fix stuff yourself.

Mark David Chapman
Jul 25, 2011

BlackMK4 posted:

Go lowball him with cash in hand if you can fix stuff yourself.

Gonna go after work, need to stop at the bank first. Carb rebuild kits are 45$ for a set of 2 and I've rebuilt carbs on my XR650 and CR450 before.

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Mark David Chapman posted:

I was looking at this 08 GS500:

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/mcy/5833515681.html

The seller mentioned that there is a leak coming from the fuel line. I was thinking that it would probably be the float or jet?
Add says that the carbs were rebuilt so I figure that at worst someone hosed up and forgot to replace or adjust the float that is now causing the leak. Or maybe I'm being dumb even considering this bike.

So much for his "$400 tuneup". Personally I would buy it because that's a good price on a good bike, as long as you're prepared to tinker with it. It is probably leaking from the float bowl or a t-junction and just appears to be coming from a fuel line. You should also note that this appears to be a GS500F (the faired version) that has been converted to naked. It was likely crashed.

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks

clutchpuck posted:

carcinofuck if you are having trouble finding good for-sale listings, try posting a want ad. Post what you want and how much you are willing to spend. Something might fall in your lap. I've had good luck that way a couple times.
Huh. I always thought those people were setting themselves up for spam by idiots who want to offer something not even remotely close to what you're asking for.


builds character posted:

It's worth noting that you will 100% want to immediately buy all the bike. It seems bad now, but just wait until you go look at one.

On that note, you might consider ease of resale in your criteria.
Haha yeah that's what happened with my previous bike. When you've already taken the cash out of the bank... I'd like to think I have more self-control now.



Anyone else want to comment on this one:
2005 drz 400 sm supermoto dual sport - $3500

Lotta miles. Doesn't look like there's much tread on the tires. $3200 if I buy it without registration. As long as there's a clean title, is that a problem (besides not getting stopped riding it home)? Maybe I can get him to 3k even.

carcinofuck fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 18, 2016

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

carcinofuck posted:

Huh. I always thought those people were setting themselves up for spam by idiots who want to offer something not even remotely close to what you're asking for.

Just using Craigslist is setting yourself up for spam by idiots. Just use their email anonymizer until you get a real person you're willing to deal with, and abuse the for-sale section with it.

I got some spam and I ignored it and ended up finding my wife's XL175 in a couple days.

When I posted a want ad for my Ulysses I got exactly one response with exactly the bike I was after and ended up buying it. All the ad said was "Wanted to buy: 2008 or newer Buell Ulysses. $5000"

Gonna Send It
Jul 8, 2010

carcinofuck posted:



Anyone else want to comment on this one:
2005 drz 400 sm supermoto dual sport - $3500

Lotta miles. Doesn't look like there's much tread on the tires. $3200 if I buy it without registration. As long as there's a clean title, is that a problem (besides not getting stopped riding it home)? Maybe I can get him to 3k even.

What concerns me about that bike (besides the registration stuff) is that it's not a true SM, it's been converted. Will it function? Yes, but why was all that stuff replaced? An S model is supposed to be pretty ok with 17s on it. Also, it's not a dual sport and adding dirt wheels/tires is a $1k proposition.

Why is the guy gonna charge YOU $300 to go to DMV and deal with the registration? From what I've read, 19k is getting up there for DRZs, it might be stator/head refresh time for that bike. For comparison, I bought my SM in Paradise for $3200 with 7k miles on it. While this is kind of low for the SM market, you could do better than that bike.

I agree with builds character, I think you need to solidify exactly what you want and then wait until it shows up. It's difficult, but it's the best way to do things.

mungtor
May 3, 2005

Yeah, I hate me too.
Nap Ghost
Thoughts on Triumph Sprints welcome... I'm looking at 2 of them tomorrow.

2003, 955i motor, 8800 miles, bags, center stand. Dealer trade in, so no history but appears all stock. Asking $3500, and can probably get it for $3000. Only specific issue I know of that's important is that the nose of the crank might decide to snap off since that was apparently a problem with the 955i in the 2002 and *maybe* 2003 models.

2008, 1050i motor, 8200 miles, bags, Two Bros exhaust, Healtech gear indicator, Pazzos, ABS. Lowsided once, driveway dropped once, and knocked over in the street. Fairings and mirrors replaced, crash sliders installed after second drop, so the last one only scratched the sliders and one of the bags. All dealer service, private sale. Asking $4500, might get it for less.

Is the crank problem just overblown? Is ABS worth $1500 more on a bike that's been dropped a couple times? Rational thinking says go with the 2008 (newer and ABS), but I just don't like that it's been dropped. I already dealt with a multiple tip-over and it's maddening when everything is off by 1/4". Just buy whichever one fits better?

Mark David Chapman
Jul 25, 2011
Thanks for the help with that GS500. I'm going to check it out sunday, I checked the vin and it came back clean so if it was wrecked it might of been unreported.

I found another GS worth taking a look at:

2006 with 5kmiles. The add says its got a bad clutch. He wants 800$ so I'll lowball him on the fact that I would have to replace the clutch plates (If its really just a worn clutch) My worry is that if the clutch is seized can I buy a aftermarket or used assembly and just swap it in?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/5830491895.html

Mark David Chapman fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 18, 2016

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

mungtor posted:

Thoughts on Triumph Sprints welcome... I'm looking at 2 of them tomorrow.

2003, 955i motor, 8800 miles, bags, center stand. Dealer trade in, so no history but appears all stock. Asking $3500, and can probably get it for $3000. Only specific issue I know of that's important is that the nose of the crank might decide to snap off since that was apparently a problem with the 955i in the 2002 and *maybe* 2003 models.

2008, 1050i motor, 8200 miles, bags, Two Bros exhaust, Healtech gear indicator, Pazzos, ABS. Lowsided once, driveway dropped once, and knocked over in the street. Fairings and mirrors replaced, crash sliders installed after second drop, so the last one only scratched the sliders and one of the bags. All dealer service, private sale. Asking $4500, might get it for less.

Is the crank problem just overblown? Is ABS worth $1500 more on a bike that's been dropped a couple times? Rational thinking says go with the 2008 (newer and ABS), but I just don't like that it's been dropped. I already dealt with a multiple tip-over and it's maddening when everything is off by 1/4". Just buy whichever one fits better?

Those bikes don't sell very well, I'd want the 1050 with ABS. Would probably show up, look at the damage, hem and haw, and offer 3800 in a stack of hundreds.

If he didn't go for it I'd say I had another $200 on me and pull that out of my wallet. The 08 probably has old tires on it, I'd bet the chain is tightspotted, and the brake fluid is black. If the tires, brake fluid, and chain are all in need of replacement I'd offer 3.5.

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks
Alright thanks guys. As for figuring out what I want, I think I'll be happy with most things so I'll just keep looking.

Humor me a little longer though: 2003 Kawasaki KLR 250 - $2400

Looks clean, medium miles, on the heavy side but still way lighter than a ninja300, definitely going to do better on the highway than a CRF230. Seat is supposed to be 33.7" which is better than 34-35". Eh? Eh?

Also this is one of the first one of these where I really like the look.

Mark David Chapman
Jul 25, 2011

carcinofuck posted:

Alright thanks guys. As for figuring out what I want, I think I'll be happy with most things so I'll just keep looking.

Humor me a little longer though: 2003 Kawasaki KLR 250 - $2400

Looks clean, medium miles, on the heavy side but still way lighter than a ninja300, definitely going to do better on the highway than a CRF230. Seat is supposed to be 33.7" which is better than 34-35". Eh? Eh?

Also this is one of the first one of these where I really like the look.

I would keep looking and try to find a newer bike. If you're willing to travel a bit, you can find some good stuff down in SoCal. There is always Enduros for sale around here. The only problem with looking for a dual sport right now is demand will be going up because it's cold enough to be "Riding Season" so you might see more bikes priced higher than they should be.

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/5787442276.html

Also if you're worried about the size of a bike check out the yamaha XT250/225 or TW200. I've ridden the XT250, which feels pretty gutless compared to the WR250 but it's a great around town bike. I wouldnt really want to take it on a freeway though.

Mark David Chapman fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Oct 18, 2016

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks


Oh I thought the first guy saying TW200 was joking.

Looks good to me.

This one still too old? https://modesto.craigslist.org/mcy/5831437072.html

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

mungtor posted:

Thoughts on Triumph Sprints welcome... I'm looking at 2 of them tomorrow.

2003, 955i motor, 8800 miles, bags, center stand. Dealer trade in, so no history but appears all stock. Asking $3500, and can probably get it for $3000. Only specific issue I know of that's important is that the nose of the crank might decide to snap off since that was apparently a problem with the 955i in the 2002 and *maybe* 2003 models.

2008, 1050i motor, 8200 miles, bags, Two Bros exhaust, Healtech gear indicator, Pazzos, ABS. Lowsided once, driveway dropped once, and knocked over in the street. Fairings and mirrors replaced, crash sliders installed after second drop, so the last one only scratched the sliders and one of the bags. All dealer service, private sale. Asking $4500, might get it for less.

Is the crank problem just overblown? Is ABS worth $1500 more on a bike that's been dropped a couple times? Rational thinking says go with the 2008 (newer and ABS), but I just don't like that it's been dropped. I already dealt with a multiple tip-over and it's maddening when everything is off by 1/4". Just buy whichever one fits better?

I have an 01 RS 955(no bags, rack or centerstand, also a slightly more agressive handlebar position) , great bike that I love, it has 56K on the clock, I don't know anything about the crank issue but I have no complaints about the motor.

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Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
No, actually, it's not old enough. Tw200 work inverse from most bikes, and are better the older they are. Condition still matters, though.

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