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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Chris Harris Jr wrote a thing for The Players Tribune that breaks down covering elite receivers: http://www.theplayerstribune.com/top-5-nfl-receivers-chris-harris-jr/ Does not include Julio Jones, is not a good list.
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That's bc Talib was responsible for him in that game you petulant baby
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Every Tannehill dropback against the Titans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb2BbZsCsm4 - Pass blocking not as bad as advertised. Yes, they blew it completely sometimes. Other times Tannehill has a pocket and then panics and steps the wrong way into a sack. He is pretty lousy at sensing pressure. There were plays where a sack could have easily been avoided if he just stepped up in the pocket instead of being completely oblivious. - Tannehill exacerbates bad pass blocking with slow reads and a fairly slow release. - Throws a lot of check downs early in the game even when not under pressure. - Doesn't usually throw it where receiver can make a play on the ball, which he needs to do because... - Receivers are not physical enough, not fighting for balls, also dropping easy catches. - Christ how many plays that involve throwing to someone five yards behind the LOS do the Dolphins need to call??? Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:That's bc Talib was responsible for him in that game you petulant baby "Toughtest wide-outs I've faced that weren't the responsibility of the much better CB on my team"
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Chilichimp posted:"Toughtest wide-outs I've faced that weren't the responsibility of the much better CB on my team" Talib and Harris are about equal in skill, and are also the only 2 good KU players in the NFL atm, it's pretty cool if they weren't playing for the loving Broncos
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Chilichimp posted:"Toughtest wide-outs I've faced that weren't the responsibility of the much better CB on my team" More like "I refuse to read this cool, insightful article written by a player because it doesn't mention the one I like"
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Every Tannehill dropback against the Titans. How incumbent is it on a quarterback to change protections? Is there a way I can blame Tannehill for the clear path sacks?
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I think someone posted the transcript of this but the video is even better. https://twitter.com/ItsToluNotTulu/status/786554860288241664
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Gynecolojustice posted:Talib and Harris are about equal in skill, and are also the only 2 good KU players in the NFL atm, it's pretty cool if they weren't playing for the loving Broncos Darrell Stuckey is really good
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fsif posted:How incumbent is it on a quarterback to change protections? Is there a way I can blame Tannehill for the clear path sacks? Tannehill is experienced enough that he's calling protections, but his linemen are so bad that they're loving up their assignments and getting beaten regardless when not Cian Fahey wrote up a long article about the Dolphins-Titans game explaining why Adam Gase is defending Tannehill so strongly and thinks the linemen are trash and the receivers suck outside of Landry: http://presnapreads.com/2016/10/13/adam-gase-ryan-tannehill-and-realistic-expectations/
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Kalli posted:Tannehill is experienced enough that he's calling protections, but his linemen are so bad that they're loving up their assignments and getting beaten regardless when not "WE WANT MOORE"
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Jonathan Fisk posted:pretty much any qb above replacement level will perform well unpressured nope i feel like some goons dont understand how important qbs are and how rare their talents are, despite it being blindingly obvious. having one who is good at anything is actually pretty loving rare. if every qb was good without pressure they would not be valuable. outside of a like 10-15 good qbs everyone else is so bad they actively tank any chance you have at winning. and the good ones never move from their team so despite seeing a large number of qbs in the good category its still basically impossible to get one if you dont have one. Ghost Dog fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Ehud posted:"WE WANT MOORE" Make sure you read the sack that starts with "Tannehill adjusted to a 7 man protection, the Titans send 4, and a rusher gets free immediately"
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a neat cape posted:Darrell Stuckey is really good Yeah he is, I liked him more than both Talib/Harris in college
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wandler20 posted:I think someone posted the transcript of this but the video is even better. I wish we had both Bennetts. 
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https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/785128185809637376 Excited about tonight, and this weekend
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wandler20 posted:I think someone posted the transcript of this but the video is even better. Buncha Bitches
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And on the other side of the ball:Mike Tanier posted:The Dolphins have $38.6 million invested in their defensive line, the second-highest figure in the NFL behind the Jaguars, but surrendered 235 rushing yards and recorded zero sacks Sunday. Mario Williams and Ndamukong Suh combined for one measly tackle in a 30-17 loss to the Titans.
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Grittybeard posted:I wonder if this will ever swing back. I don't expect salaries to go down or anything but thinking more in relation to how much other positions make. Well the hope was that Brock wasn't going to be mediocre obviously. And his salary is pretty in line with most starting QBs who have made it to their second contract. If it changes the approaches FOs make, it's less likely to be the amount and more likely to be being more wary about unproven guys
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Ghost Dog posted:nope I disagree somewhat. The best quarterbacks can still be excellent even in terrible situations, like Rivers currently, Romo back before he had that incredible offensive line and Dez, Brees at times, and Cam last year are all good examples here. Losing with a great QB is losing with a stacked deck, mere competency should be carrying you to wild card appearances. But beyond that, teams with good situations with excellent supporting casts and schemes that elevate talent. Dak Preskott should be a very limited rookie quarterback, but he's thriving because teams have to dedicate so much to still get run over by their offensive line. Dak might be some amazing diamond in the rough (he isn't), but you could probably replace him with 25 guys and be getting fairly similar results. The Cowboys have also neglected their defense in building the murderline that they probably won't win anything before they're no longer that, so that's a thing too. But then you've got a large number of quarterbacks that are good enough to be successful in the right situation, but can't elevate talent or get ruined by bad coaching / team building. Guys like Flacco, Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton are probably the top of the curve here, with other guys like Bradford, Tannehill and plenty of others will look good at times, awful at others, but if you put a solid team around them, you should, more often then not, be pretty happy with what your offense is doing. The drop off from these guys to the Geno Smiths or god, the Ryan Lindleys of the world is enormous, and if you have one of these guys, you just have to hope your GM and coaching staff are competent enough to put pieces in place around them to succeed before other pieces break. Or you don't, and spin your wheels for a decade while you joke about going 8-8. Or I'm full of poo poo, there's that too
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:More like "I refuse to read this cool, insightful article written by a player because it doesn't mention the one I like" Nah, I'm just trolling. I'm not reading the article because at the moment, I'm doing other things. Also, gently caress CH, Jr for not saying Julio is #1.
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fsif posted:How incumbent is it on a quarterback to change protections? Is there a way I can blame Tannehill for the clear path sacks? It's incumbent on them if their center is a rookie or not very good. Neither of which describe Pouncey.
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Kalli posted:But beyond that, teams with good situations with excellent supporting casts and schemes that elevate talent. Dak Preskott should be a very limited rookie quarterback, but he's thriving because teams have to dedicate so much to still get run over by their offensive line. Dak might be some amazing diamond in the rough (he isn't), but you could probably replace him with 25 guys and be getting fairly similar results. The Cowboys have also neglected their defense in building the murderline that they probably won't win anything before they're no longer that, so that's a thing too. You're definitely full of poo poo, given that 4 different QBs were all total loving garbage behind the same line last year
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TheChirurgeon posted:You're definitely full of poo poo, given that 4 different QBs were all total loving garbage behind the same line last year A broken Matt Cassel, Brandon Weeden and Kellen Moore. Sorry I didn't list them by name, but that's basically between the Geno Smith and Ryan Lindley tier of quarterback garbage.
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Kalli posted:Tannehill is experienced enough that he's calling protections, but his linemen are so bad that they're loving up their assignments and getting beaten regardless when not I thought it was weird they let Rishard Matthews walk, he seemed pretty good
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NC-17 how much of your day do you dedicate you googling news about Miami? Frankly I wish it was Miamis QB that was the real problem but instead it's literally 6 other positions. Great. We're screwed for so many years to come
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Kalli posted:A broken Matt Cassel, Brandon Weeden and Kellen Moore. Those guys are all better than Geno Smith or Ryan Lindley and there was a point at which replacing Brady with Cassel got a team 10 wins. e: I'm not saying that Prescott is the next Brees or anything, but he's definitely above replacement level. Simply having a great offensive line doesn't guarantee good decision-making, pocket presence, or performance. A large number of sacks are the fault of the Quarterback and/or the scheme e2: Tannehill is bad, and his line sucks. It can be both TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Also how is Martellus Bennet surviving inside Belichick's environment?
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Kalli posted:A broken Matt Cassel, Brandon Weeden and Kellen Moore. Weeden defeated the Colts in Indy last year  Also Dak passes the most important test: the eyeball test
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Also how is Martellus Bennet surviving inside Belichick's environment? Belicheck orders the ball inflator of the week into Bennetts office before every game, never to be heard from again
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What's worse: the eternal frustration of not having a franchise QB, or the realization that you found one and he's being ruined by an incompetent team?
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Amy Pole Her posted:NC-17 how much of your day do you dedicate you googling news about Miami? nc-17 owns and is a top 10 pats poster
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I mean Bennet seems kinda nuts but Belichick calls him Marty and talks about him like he's his nephew. It's weird.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Simply having a great offensive line doesn't guarantee good decision-making, pocket presence, or performance. A large number of sacks are the fault of the Quarterback and/or the scheme Yeah, a big reason the Packers OL consistently grades out well is because Rodgers is so drat elusive. They didn't give up any sacks against the Giants, and while that's partly because the Giants played conservatively on defense and partly because the line genuinely played well, it's also because Rodgers slipped out of the three or four times that the Giants actually made it past the line to the quarterback. That's why it's weird to me, from my position as an overprivileged Packers fan  to see the Dolphins posters complain about their offensive line destroying Tannehill. The plays I've seen posted here, Tannehill just seems utterly immobile in the face of people flying through the air at him. Move around a little!
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https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/786595419417608193 WELCOME TO (this very particular section of) HELL, MIAMI
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