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Gynecolojustice posted:The uniforms tonight are going to be beautiful, the helmets will be lovely Yellow face masks 
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Ehud posted:Hey speaking of which, how has Vernon been in NY? All signs point to: you made out letting him walk.
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Ehud posted:nc-17 owns and is a top 10 pats poster It's honestly a huge time saver. He protects me from FinHeaven
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Oct 13, 2016 17:24
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Chichevache posted:What's worse: the eternal frustration of not having a franchise QB, or the realization that you found one and he's being ruined by an incompetent team?
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Oct 13, 2016 17:25
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The Fiedler Dolphins were rather fun. Certainly easier to watch than the current shower.
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I feel like the entire franchise changed when Marino lost the playoff game to the Jags. That's the moment where I stopped being happy.
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Chichevache posted:What's worse: the eternal frustration of not having a franchise QB, or the realization that you found one and he's being ruined by an incompetent team? Assuming the team lacking a franchise QB is not paying the playoffs as well, I'd go with option #2. I only base this on being a Mariners fan, and having so much star talent that would get squandered every single year. A boring, incompetent team with no star power won't inspire too much passion in you.
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fan of the browns posted:Ugh. gently caress the Browns. Now how can I lord my moral superiority over Steelers fans? Wait, what did they do now? Besides having a predictably brownsy season.
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Ehud posted:I feel like the entire franchise changed when Marino lost the playoff game to the Jags. That's the moment where I stopped being happy. i loved them challenging a play when they were down like 35 in the first quarter.
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Gynecolojustice posted:https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/785128185809637376 yup this will decide whether he gets a 4 or only a 3 -year extension
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TheChirurgeon posted:Those guys are all better than Geno Smith or Ryan Lindley and there was a point at which replacing Brady with Cassel got a team 10 wins. I think Dak is above replacement level, but I also think there's 25 guys you could put in that situation and have similar results with that offense even if they make a few dumb throws because they'll also be able to make more complicated reads then what's being asked of 1 month in rookie Dak. You have to go a deeper then 25 QB's before you're hitting Geno Smith but I'd rather sign an injured Charlie Whitehurst then start Geno. Basically, I'm saying that if Stephen was asleep at the switch and Jerry had managed to get away and trade something dumb for Cutler or Mariota or Cousins or Flacco (to pick 4 random guys between the like 10th and 25th best QB's) that they'd probably have similar success to what Dak is doing right now, at least in my humble opinion. Stat wise, Dak is killing it right now, but I bet if he was on the Titans right now, he'd be considered hot garbage.
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Speaking about the Dolphins, are the Dolphins fans now only watching the Vikings games, hoping they lose so they can have their one yearly celebration when there is no more undefeated team left? Edit: Oh I got a new avatar. What is that KC image about? GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Chichevache posted:What's worse: the eternal frustration of not having a franchise QB, or the realization that you found one and he's being ruined by an incompetent team? THE LATTER
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Oct 13, 2016 17:51
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No one is going undefeated this year
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GaussianCopula posted:Speaking about the Dolphins, are the Dolphins fans now only watching the Vikings games, hoping they lose so they can have their one yearly celebration when there is no more undefeated team left? Was that not when KC butt hosed the pats in the 2014/15 season?
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CyberPingu posted:Was that not when KC butt hosed the pats in the 2014/15 season? The stinging loss which gave the team the moral boost to win the Super Bowl? But I suspect it's more about the 2008 season. Ehud posted:No one is going undefeated this year Does it make you sad that the greatest achievement/last Super Bowl win of your team happened when Nixon was president? GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Ehud posted:No one is going undefeated this year Brady can
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Guys I think GaussianCopula might be a bad poster.
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Do all the fans and even some sportswriters chanting tor Matt Moore even watch football? If your linemen suck, your team probably will too. Basic fundamentals.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:01
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That is Pollard you rubes.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:That is Pollard you rubes. Jonathan?
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Oct 13, 2016 18:03
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a neat cape posted:THE LATTER
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Raku posted:Brady can too bad he blew another chance at a perfect season by breaking rules and getting suspended :-/
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a neat cape posted:THE LATTER Eh, I dunno. The Jets have gone 40 years and 350+ draft picks since they last had a franchise quarterback. Meanwhile the other teams in their division have all had at least one (if not more) periods of sustained success thanks in part to a franchise QB. They might disagree.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:10
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Trying and failing to identify a franchise QB for over fifteen years is much worse than getting one and ruining him. Been there on both accounts.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:12
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So I watched that Bennett brothers E:60 and it was awesome. Answered my own questions about Bennett fitting into New England. He said: "I came here and everything is part of a larger system. Belichick tells you everything he expects of you and what you need to do. That's a lot better than any other place I've played." Also apparently Jason Witten and Jason Garrett are assholes.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:12
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GaussianCopula posted:
Does it make you sad that the greatest achievement in NFL history happened 30 years before your team was even relevant?
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Chichevache posted:Does it make you sad that the greatest achievement in NFL history happened 30 years before your team was even relevant? I would disagree with that assessment. The greatest achievement is clearly the Patriots dynasty in the salary cap era.
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Oct 13, 2016 18:29
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I mean who disagrees with me about GC now?
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Oct 13, 2016 18:31
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TheChirurgeon posted:Those guys are all better than Geno Smith or Ryan Lindley and there was a point at which replacing Brady with Cassel got a team 10 wins. This may have been true of Cassel at one point but has not been true since at least 2012. At least compared to Geno. Yeah I suppose if you put a gun to my head I'd
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Kalli posted:I disagree somewhat. The best quarterbacks can still be excellent even in terrible situations, like Rivers currently, Romo back before he had that incredible offensive line and Dez, Brees at times, and Cam last year are all good examples here. Losing with a great QB is losing with a stacked deck, mere competency should be carrying you to wild card appearances. i disagree that anyone would look good in daks situation, or well i disagree that anyone could look good in that situation for a long time. only good qbs are consistently good when given the chance, bad qbs stumble and get "figured out" or whatever like i imagine dak will be before this season is over. if dak plays like this for several seasons then yeah, hes actually just a good qb and not some dude who got plugged into a great situation. or i guess what im trying to say the stupid truism of Everyone Looks Good Without Pressure is only true for some pretty small number of games. if you are like several years in, and your qb always looks good when he has a certain situation then hes just a good qb, or at least a qb with a good enough skill that elevates him above his peers and makes him worth building around. so a good qb. 90% of qbs are not that, and no matter how great their situation is they will start to fail cause its actually really loving hard to be a qb in the nfl even with a favorable situation. Ghost Dog fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Ghost Dog posted:i disagree that anyone would look good in daks situation, or well i disagree that anyone could look good in that situation for a long time. only good qbs are consistently good when given the chance, bad qbs stumble and get "figured out" or whatever like i imagine dak will be before this season is over. if dak plays like this for several seasons then yeah, hes actually just a good qb and not some dude who got plugged into a great situation. Just for clarification are you arguing for or against Joe Flacco's elite status?
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GaussianCopula posted:I would disagree with that assessment. The greatest achievement is clearly the Patriots dynasty in the salary cap era. No, I'm pretty sure you think the greatest achievements were all before 1946
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the strongest opinion i ever gave on joe flacco was that he was good enough to win a superbowl if the ravens got lucky and im still really mad there was no pop dog was right thread
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Ghost Dog posted:the strongest opinion i ever gave on joe flacco was that he was good enough to win a superbowl if the ravens got lucky and im still really mad there was no pop dog was right thread The ravens got lucky that Joe Flacco was the best QB in the NFL for a four game stretch.
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Ghost Dog posted:nope The fact you think these things doesn't make them true There was some football outsiders project a few years back that showed every starter in the league except for all time terrible guys (Skelton, Lindley, etc) would turn plays with positive DVOA unpressured
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Alaois posted:No, I'm pretty sure you think the greatest achievements were all before 1946
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Yeah in all this quarterback discussion it does seem like Flacco is the poster child for being able to win a lot of games with the right supporting cast. He doesn't seem like the level of quarterback who can make up for a lot of inadequacies by his team. But I guess the real debate is the expectation of an average starting QB's abilities vs the actual play from the, say 16th best starting QB in the league today.
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Amy Pole Her posted:I mean who disagrees with me about GC now? Like Miami's offensive line, no one cares.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Like Miami's offensive line, no one cares. 
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