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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I would have thought Ben would have way more. What about Flaccid? These are for specifically short-yardage downs, Roethlisberger throws it deep about as often as Rodgers does, just not on short downs
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Brannock posted:A look at Packers offensive woes (really only Packers fans will be interested in the details here, but I quoted the most pertinent part for all the other readers here) I guess no one can claim that McCarthy is overly conservative anymore.
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Brannock posted:A look at Packers offensive woes (really only Packers fans will be interested in the details here, but I quoted the most pertinent part for all the other readers here) How many DPI's did they get in those situations
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Nodoze posted:How many offsides calls did they get in those situations
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Gynecolojustice posted:What's Alex Smith's splits in that situation, tell me now Since he's been with the Chiefs 0 for 0, for 0 yards. No that isn't a joke. e: poo poo, nevermind. I'm querying wrong in some fashion since I get no results for short passes either.
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Ehud posted:Hey speaking of which, how has Vernon been in NY? he's been amazing against the run and was whipping every OT he faced in the preseason in both the run and pass game, of course, being a Giant, he filled out the questionnaire they give all incoming free agents and draft picks for what random injury he wanted to suffer before the season started and he chose his wrist. So he's barely practiced all year leading up to every game and it's obviously effecting him in games because he's not getting much work done in the passing game. JPP also chose to injure his shoulder in week 1 and hasn't been the same player either, but both he and OV refuse to come off the field so they've played a ton of snaps at half effectiveness. Unfortunately none of the rotational DEs have stepped up at all so the Giant pass rush basically depends on one of them getting healthy at some point.
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Ok here we go. 6/8 75% 204 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs. http://pfref.com/tiny/6N40h I am not entirely sure if that's actually telling us the correct thing or if 'pass deep' in the query is just based on how the play worked out? Surely there has to be something there or it wouldn't return any incompletions. But if it is correct Alex ought to try that a little more often. e: I mean that just cannot be correct. There's no way. ee: I do get the exact same stats for Rodgers that the article did though. Holy poo poo, go deep a little more you loving tiny handed freak. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Google Apps is great if you're willing to never, ever leave the browser. You've never had to contact their support...
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MacheteZombie posted:I guess no one can claim that McCarthy is overly conservative anymore. When they get a lead?
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Metapod posted:Dak is not better than Mariota Sorry bro but Dak is better than Mariota sean10mm posted:Mariota has had some periods where he has just looked goddamn awesome that Dak really hasn't had yet, but Dak hasn't had the total spaz moments that Mariota continues to have either. I haven't been super-serious so far but Mariota's highs were his 4-td first game against the Bucs' abysmal pass defense last year and another 4-td game against the Saints' historically bad defense last year. You'll excuse me if I hold my enthusiasm for a guy who put up a 91.5 rating against some of the league's worst defenses last year TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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MacheteZombie posted:I guess no one can claim that McCarthy is overly conservative anymore. The 2016 Packers score 5.5 points on average in the second half, second-to-last in the league.
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Metapod posted:Your utter disgust for the titans organization despite having 0 emotional attachment is just fascinating Their ownership is just appalling and they have the definitive retread garbageman head coach, and I just kind of hate those things in general. I think that's it really. There are teams I hate that are run by morons, but I enjoy their sucking so that's something different. 
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I'm always surprised the Packers have somehow only won one Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. I suppose it's not technically a waste since they did win one, but considering he has the best stats of all time up to this point I feel like they should be a dynasty.
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Kirios posted:I'm always surprised the Packers have somehow only won one Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. I suppose it's not technically a waste since they did win one, but considering he has the best stats of all time up to this point I feel like they should be a dynasty. https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/10/07/how-giants-derailed-packers-budding-dynasty/91731452/ quote:Bryan Bulaga, Packers right tackle: "They weren’t a bad football team. The crazy thing about it is, they reminded me a lot of us in 2010 when we snuck in as the sixth seed — and so did they."
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Ugh...if I were a Packers fan I couldn't help but feel like this is such a massive waste of a fantastic talent at QB. It's eerily similar to the Atlanta Braves in the 90's.
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2011 still makes me mad with how unrepentantly awful the defense was, yet the offense buzzsawed through the entire league. And the one time the offense finally stumbles, it's in the playoffs. What a missed opportunity that season was. But, I can't actually get too mad because watching Rodgers just bomb it deep every single game for endless touchdowns was a wonder.
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If you watched the games this season though Rodgers just hasn't really looked right. He's always been able to make amazingly ridiculous throws from body positions that no other quarterback in the league could do. This year, he's been really off target on most of those types of scramble throws. I almost wonder if this is just him getting older.
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My uneducated impression of the current-day Packers is that they're a good organization overall, but the game-day coaching is mediocre without being outright terrible in a way that gets a lot of publicity, so they underachieve just enough to gently caress themselves out of deeper playoff runs.
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Chichevache posted:What's worse: the eternal frustration of not having a franchise QB, or the realization that you found one and he's being ruined by an incompetent team? The latter. It blows knowing Rivers would probably have a ring or two if the Chargers weren't one of the most incompetently run teams in football.
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lemme take a guess who handles the finances in that relationship
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Grittybeard posted:Ok here we go. 6/8 75% 204 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs. My God he was even decent in San Francisco. 8/16 2 TDs 0 INTs For his career Alex Smith in that situation is 14/24, 58.3%, 437 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs, 18.2 YPA, for a 142.3 passer rating. When set up well and he actually throws the damned thing Alex Smith's deep ball is actually....good? My entire worldview is spinning.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:lemme take a guess who handles the finances in that relationship Omar knows a guy who is real good with taxes.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:If you watched the games this season though Rodgers just hasn't really looked right. He's always been able to make amazingly ridiculous throws from body positions that no other quarterback in the league could do. This year, he's been really off target on most of those types of scramble throws. I almost wonder if this is just him getting older. I wonder if it's a combination of that (plus injuries) and the Packers just not being as good of a team overall as they were a couple of years ago.
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Grittybeard posted:My God he was even decent in San Francisco. its not super hard to be efficient when your entire career youve thrown it 24 times
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Brannock posted:The 2016 Packers score 5.5 points on average in the second half, second-to-last in the league. Maybe if they played more conservatively on 2nd and 2 or 3rd and 1 they'd extend drives and score more points.
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Ghost Dog posted:its not super hard to be efficient when your entire career youve thrown it 24 times Of course the attempts are super low, I didn't expect him to have good numbers in whatever few attempts he had though. If we expanded that out to all situations instead of super low down and distance I'm sure he's appropriately ugly because man does he miss wide open guys. Oh hell let's do it. Still better than I expected but at least a little more in line. 223/534 41.7% 33 TD 29 INT. We should also keep in mind that 'deep' in this situation is only 15 yards in the air. If I had a way to change that to 25 I'd expect the both the attempts and the good numbers to go down.
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Trast posted:When the Dolphins fire Gase instead of Tannebaum because Tannebaum is up Ross' rear end I hope Gase goes on to win five super bowls. Cleveland can hire him and we'll have double the QB whisperers.
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Grittybeard posted:Of course the attempts are super low, I didn't expect him to have good numbers in whatever few attempts he had though. If we expanded that out to all situations instead of super low down and distance I'm sure he's appropriately ugly because man does he miss wide open guys. Oh hell let's do it. i imagine the routes he throws are different as well, and the ones hes going to go for are only going to be high % ones cause hes not comfortable with it. with andy reid specifically it would not be shocking if hes throwing those as counters to other plays they are running on short distance all game, altho thats just entirely speculation.
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Durandal1707 posted:I wonder if it's a combination of that (plus injuries) and the Packers just not being as good of a team overall as they were a couple of years ago. The 2014 team was very good, but I think the 2016 defense is straight up a few tiers better than the 2014 defense. This defense is actually really good, and if Sam Shields doesn't get any more concussions (  ) the pass defense may step up to be competitive alongside the run defense. The writeup that I linked that kicked this whole discussion off argues that the offense will get back into sync as the season progresses, and blames lack of preseason practice for Rodgers and his receivers being badly out of sync. As the season has gone on the offense has looked better and better (at least before the second half). I'm not going to make any doomsayer proclamations at least until the second divisional loss  Grittybeard posted:My God he was even decent in San Francisco. This topic came up a few years ago and just like today back then it was concluded that Alex Smith's deep ball was actually pretty solid, his coaches just straight up forbade him to throw deep for some reason.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Cleveland can hire him and we'll have double the QB whisperers. Haslem is an rear end in a top hat while the Dolphins owner is a Michigan man. I'm not sure if those are the same thing.
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Gynecolojustice posted:Sharepoint is for assholes gently caress SharePoint. It is one of the reasons I have to use 3 different Web browsers at work.
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Trast posted:When the Dolphins fire Gase instead of Tannebaum because Tannebaum is up Ross' rear end I hope Gase goes on to win five super bowls. I feel the same way about Tannehill. I hope he joins the Patriots and annihilates the entire league. It's the only appropriate way for it all to end.
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3755666&pagenumber=103&perpage=40#post458929189 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3783372&pagenumber=3&perpage=40#post462336446 Ignore the post that I made late on about how the Vikings will regress
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Brannock posted:The 2016 Packers score 5.5 points on average in the second half, second-to-last in the league. Only ahead of the Browns and behind the Jets, Texans, and Rams. I really hope they fix this. McCarthy's conservative nature once they get a lead + aggressiveness on 3rd and short doesn't really add up and maybe there is some truth to the idea that they should play to keep drives alive rather than look for the big play so much. Rodgers seems to have regressed somewhat on deep balls. Maybe the answer is to get more creative with playcalling in general? I will say that I think the Packers offensive woes are overstated. The defense looks better than its been in years and will make it less of an issue that the offense isn't scoring 30 points a game. The game this weekend against Dallas will tell us more about what to expect come January.
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