ZDar Fan posted:

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I've been listening to am news radio on my commute and it's hilarious how many people call in and say crap like that. "Well Trump is bad but hillary did worse!" When actually pressed they can't come up with specifics. Just she's a liar she's slimy she supports all of bill's rapes blah blah blah. It's just well I don't like her! You can hear the cognitive dissonance when they realize they're voting for a monster but can come up with gently caress all against Hillary other than "lying hillary's emails."

ZDar Fan posted:

Doctor Butts posted:

Don't ever forget that this convicted felon of campaign finance fraud wanted a summer break from his prison sentence that was all of 10-16 months.

Chilichimp posted:

Ahem! Benghazi?!?! Hello?!?!?!

Chilichimp posted:

Ahem! Benghazi?!?! Hello?!?!?!

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

When people bring up Benghazi, ask them to name the people who were killed. They not only can't, they'll also tell you how their names aren't important, it's only important that you know it's Hillary's fault.

Chilichimp posted:

Latest hatchet job from Project Veritas.

Hillary campaign staffer: Ripping up GOP voter forms 'fine'

Near as I can tell... (because I'm having to go on context, because they cut out prior communication) a Project Veritas reporter pretended to be remorseful for "snapping" and ripping up 3 Trump registration forms, and reported himself to the local organizer, asking him not to report him for his mistake.

The guy has a moment of pity/sympathy and says it's fine, he won't report him, and not to do it again.

In comes James O'Keefe "So you guys say it's alright to destroy Republican voter registration information?"

Eat poo poo from my cupped hands, bitch.

Of course this has been edited to make it appear as bad as possible, and it will be FURTHER ripped up and edited to make it appear even loving worse. gently caress James O'Keefe.

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

cool, im glad lgbtq issues will not be discussed at all during any debate. it's not like a whole lot of poo poo went down this year related to lgbtq rights, nosir.

nine-gear crow posted:

He then made a movie about how Obama personally threw him in jail to silence him and while he was in the slammer he learned from his cellmates that Hillary Clinton was the culmination of Andrew Jackson's centuries-long plan to steal America off the face of the Earth... or something.

It was so bad that Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) walked out of it in disgust.

A man who reviews literal porn, z-grade cinematic diasters, and exploitation films for a living, who prides himself on never having willingly walked out of a film in over 30 years--Dinesh D'Souza's work was too loving much for him.

That's how god awful D'Souza is.

Crowsbeak posted:

Can I think that both Jackson was a monster and that we needed someone who wasn't born from the upperclasses to be president?

quote:

RUSH: So Michelle Obama's in New Hampshire, and she's commenting on Trump's locker room talk, and she says, "It's not locker room talk. I don't know men who talk that way. Decent men do not talk that way. What Trump was talking about was sexual assault," she said. "Donald Trump was acting out sexual assault, and it is intolerable." Something... You know, Trump said... If you go back to this audiotape, he said, "When you're a celebrity, they let you do anything." How can there be assault if somebody's granting permission?

How can it be assault if they let you do anything? But that's a fine point. The fine point is Trump... Men brag, and she is telling people that she doesn't know men who brag. You know the people that have been to the White House? How about some of the rappers that talk about their bitches and their hos have performed such lyrics in the White House? But she doesn't know men who talk and sing about sexual assault. It's all over hip-hop lyrics and has been for a while!

So is assault on the police a feature of some hip-hop lyrics, and it's been performed at the White House. But she doesn't know men who talk that way. She doesn't know decent guys who talk that way.
No. She's only invited them to the White House to perform and then bestowed great honors on them. And if you're asking: No, she hasn't had a comment on her husband parading around an airplane 2007 with an erection in front of a bunch of impressed female infobabes. She hasn't commented on that.

And then she said... You know what else she said? She said, "We need to elect Hillary Clinton because we need somebody to heal the wounds that divide us." Well, now, wait just a minute. Wounds that divide us? Why are there divisions in Barack Obama's America? Why are there wounds in Barack Obama's America? Why is there any healing necessary in Barack Obama's America? Whatever happened to hope and change? Whatever happened to postracial? Whatever happened to postpartisan? Whatever happened to all this?

So you mean we have racial wounds?

We have wounds, we need healing, and apparently Obama's not up to the job?

We can only get started on that when Hillary waddles into the White House, the Oval Office? By the way, conflicting stories about what goes on in locker rooms. Aqib Talib is a cornerback for the Denver Broncos, played at the University of Kansas. He's also played New England, the Patriots, for Bill Belichick. He's now at Denver. And on Tuesday he told the media in Denver that Trump, yeah, he might fit in in the Broncos locker room. Yeah, yeah, I recognize that. Yeah, we got guys that talk that way in the locker room.

You know, a lot of guys in professional sports locker rooms have multiple "baby mamas." Are you aware of this? Some of them have four or five "baby mamas" with eight or nine kids. One was highlighted on HBO's Hard Knocks. He used to play for the New York Jets. (chuckles) You're trying to tell us that this kind of talk doesn't go on in the lock room? I have been in major league sports locker rooms.

But it doesn't matter because LeBron James -- King LeBron -- has weighed in on this and he says we don't disrespect women. "The authority on locker room talk..." (interruption) Well, that's how he's heralded here in this story. Where is this? Mediaite. "The authority on locker room talk, King LeBron, who recently endorsed Hillary, said, 'That's not locker room talk. That's trash talk. We don't disrespect women in no shape or form in our locker room. That never comes up. We don't disrespect women in our locker room.'" (interruption) That's King LeBron. I'm just telling you what he said out there. You don't believe him?

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RUSH: I don't know if it's libel or not, but accusing Trump of sexual assault when he hasn't done it? That's the depths to which they are now stooping. He was talking about sexual assault. Remember, Hillary Clinton has defended it.

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RUSH: Yeah, I guess Michelle Obama wasn't there when the Reverend Wright was talking about Bill Clinton. You remember what Reverend Wright said about Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky? (interrupting) No. That's not what he said. (impression) "And Bill and Monica Lewinsky was riding dirty. Yeah, chickens have come home to roost, baby." "Bill was riding dirty," and the population, the congregation went nuts.

But Michelle Obama says guys don't talk that way. I imagine children in the church asking (impression), "Mommy? Mommy? What does 'riding dirty' mean? What does it mean?" "Bill Clinton does it, Son. That's all you need to know. Bill Clinton does it. Rides 'em dirty."

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RUSH: Michelle Obama says she doesn't know men that talk like Donald Trump. She's forgotten Reverend Wright talking about Bill Clinton and Monica. Reverend Wright, from the pulpit of the Obamas' church, "Yeah, Bill was riding dirty! His chickens have come home to roost!" She never heard talk like that, I guess, at church.

an egotistical, flabby sex tourist with a radio show posted:

Just so you all know, I don't understand the difference between someone genuinely desiring my poorly-maintained body and someone merely letting my sordid sexual demands happen to them, as one might let someone else's vomit continue to pour into their lap because struggling would prove messy and unproductive. Who could have guessed that, 'mirite?

Chilichimp posted:

Latest hatchet job from Project Veritas.

Hillary campaign staffer: Ripping up GOP voter forms 'fine'

Near as I can tell... (because I'm having to go on context, because they cut out prior communication) a Project Veritas reporter pretended to be remorseful for "snapping" and ripping up 3 Trump registration forms, and reported himself to the local organizer, asking him not to report him for his mistake.

The guy has a moment of pity/sympathy and says it's fine, he won't report him, and not to do it again.

In comes James O'Keefe "So you guys say it's alright to destroy Republican voter registration information?"

Eat poo poo from my cupped hands, bitch.

Of course this has been edited to make it appear as bad as possible, and it will be FURTHER ripped up and edited to make it appear even loving worse. gently caress James O'Keefe.

Chilichimp posted:

Ahem! Benghazi?!?! Hello?!?!?!

Vriess posted:

It's sort of weird how those amongst us masochistic enough to get into political arguments treat Benghazi like a honey pot due to the relationship with Vilerat.

kik2dagroin posted:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/10/13/michelle_obama_says_she_s_never_heard_anything_like_trump

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

When people bring up Benghazi, ask them to name the people who were killed. They not only can't, they'll also tell you how their names aren't important, it's only important that you know it's Hillary's fault.

woke wedding drone posted:

I believe the quote from Reverend Wright was "America's chickens have come home to roost," not "yeah, chickens turkeys have come home to roost, baby," as he is not a caricature of a black pimp in a 1970s German porno cartoon.

Race Realists posted:

https://twitter.com/VintagePasta/status/786899121676357632

https://twitter.com/SeanIra_/status/786900699724517376

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This is a fun election. Trump and Clinton have provided us with one juicy rumor/scandal after another. But how do you know which rumors are true? I have taught you in this blog that even smart people are routinely fooled by confirmation bias. You think you can use your “common sense” to sort out what is true and what is an illusion, but it doesn’t work that way. Humans don’t have that sort of self-awareness.

So what do you do?

I’ll help you sort out truth from fiction using the Persuasion Filter plus some pattern recognition.

I have a different window into the election scandals because I’ve been semi-famous for a few decades. In my experience, about half of what you read about me is true, and half is complete nonsense. The interesting thing is that you can’t tell which half is which. The only person who knows the truth with certainty is me, and I’m not credible because I’m the subject of the rumors.

Extrapolating from my own experience, I think it is fair to assume that about half of what you hear about Trump and Clinton is true. The other half is nonsense. But here again, you can’t tell which half is the real part. I’m here to help.

Here are two current examples of false rumors, one for each candidate.

1. Rumor: A Wikileaks email says Clinton allegedly “hates everyday Americans.” The words on the page do say that, but the context is that she hates the label “everyday Americans.” This rumor is false.

2. Rumor: In the leaked Access Hollywood tapes, Trump allegedly admits to kissing and touching women against their will. But on the same recording Trump clearly says, “When you’re a celebrity, they let you do anything.” The word “let” implies permission, verbal or otherwise. Therefore it is not true that Trump confessed on the tape to sexual abuse. (It is a separate question whether Trump did inappropriate things. Here I’m only talking about the rumor that he admitted inappropriate actions on the leaked tape.)

You can see my judgements on which rumors about the candidates are likely to be true on this recent blog post.

As I said, for any individual rumor, assume a 50% likelihood of it being true. But when you have several rumors around a theme, you only need a few rumors to be true to prove the theme. For example, about half of the rumors/leaks about Clinton being crooked are likely to be true. You don’t know which half are the true ones, but clearly there are enough examples to prove the theme even if half are false. Likewise, half of the Trump rumors about kissing and groping are likely to be untrue or exaggerated. But that still leaves enough rumors as true – although we don’t know which ones – to make me endorse Gary Johnson. (Johnson only touches himself. That’s a good quality in a president.)

To recap, assume any individual rumor has a 50% chance of being true. But where there are multiple rumors around a theme, you probably have enough true ones in the mix to prove the theme. You don’t need to know specifically which ones are true.

My advice for those of you who vote is to assume that all of the major scandal/rumor themes about the past are true for both candidates. But don’t conflate that with your predictions of what will happen in the future. As any investment professional will tell you, past performance does not predict future results. That applies to stocks as much as it does to humans.

We would hope and expect that people as old as Clinton and Trump have “improved” since they were younger, becoming wiser and more enlightened. I would also expect that an imperfect candidate would try hard to be a good role model once in office because that’s the smartest strategy in the long run. If you assume both candidates are in it for themselves first, you also have to assume they need to do a good job for the country to serve their own interests. Their past misdeeds are unlikely to tell you how they will do in office.

I don’t think American voters want to associate their personal reputations with either Clinton or Trump. But one of those two imperfect creatures is likely to be President. My advice is to assume the worst about their past behaviors but don’t assume their pasts necessarily predict their futures.

Before you start sobbing at the fact that Clinton and Trump are the best this country has to offer, I predict that all future presidential elections will be this nasty. Thanks to whistleblowers, hackers, and hot mics, we now have the means to see/read/hear the actual inner thoughts of candidates in ways that were never before possible. And if you learn enough about a human being, you’ll almost certainly hate that person. Expect future candidates to rival Clinton and Trump for unpopularity. That’s the new world we live in. We have the means to know too much about people.

To prepare for this new world of too-much-disclosure, I suggest we abandon the idea that presidents should be role models for our kids. Let’s treat the election like we are hiring for any other type of job. A candidate either has the right skills and motivation or doesn’t. Their rotten inner souls aren’t necessarily an indication of future job performance.

Clinton and Trump are in the so-called basket of deplorables along with 100% of American voters. We’re all flawed. I suggest voters pick the job applicant they think can best do the work of President and leave the role-modeling to mom and dad.

Goatman Sacks posted:

It's p. easy to memorize the names of every citizen that died in a foreign war to topple a brutal dictator when there's only 4 of them.

Phone posted:

Is it bad that I prefer Matt Walsh screeds versus Dilbro's?

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

I caught some Hannity radio last night. He was manic sounding...just breathlessly going through lists of accusations against Clinton etc., no real coherence. He shook.

Radish posted:

Walsh is more openly racist though...

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

I caught some Hannity radio last night. He was manic sounding...just breathlessly going through lists of accusations against Clinton etc., no real coherence. He shook.

MrUnderbridge posted:

What worries me, especially with Trump stoking the paranoia and fear, is that some of his more ardent followers will use this as a excuse to try to start CW2.

Media types will just piss and moan and collect their paychecks and go home. It's BillyBob with low prospects who will take his words to heart and start getting stupid. Especially if Trump keeps up (or ramps up) the rhetoric after he loses.

Don't forget, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of tyrants", and who is a bigger tyrant than Hillary?

Radish posted:

If Clinton wins I think we are going to see the real true believers. There will be conservative media guys that will be angry at losing the SCOTUS and all but probably somewhat relieved that Trump didn't win meaning they will have to deal with him rotting the party from within continuing while Hannity types will re-enact Event Horizon on air.

SatansOnion posted: