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Correct - I did vinyl wrap for the chrome delete. I really like grey and always have. I'm a painter and I tend to do alot of black/grey with a pop of color here and there but maybe it's just a personality thing. I loathe red cars :P Variety makes the world go round, though. I aint gonna hate. I think if I ever went crazy and wanted to blow a ton of money on a paint job i'd do a blue and purple duochrome. BMW is kind of entertaining right now. I've seen some weird blues and pinky reds that i think are stock colors around lately.
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bull3964 posted:It's because cars are appliances and the yellow or bright orange vehicle sits on the lots longer than all the boring colors. Not really, they just don't fetishize cars the way enthusiasts do. It's possible to be an interesting person and not give a poo poo about cars.
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Oct 11, 2016 21:51
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This just in, having a car that isn't black/white/silver, is a fetish 
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Oct 11, 2016 21:54
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io_burn posted:How much does a good quality wrap costs these days anyway? Something like $2k I think.
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blugu64 posted:This just in, having a car that isn't black/white/silver, is a fetish ManFuckingExhaust.jpg But seriously, if you haven't encountered the word used in that sense I don't know what to tell you. I imagine everyone here, you included, knew exactly what it meant.
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Oct 11, 2016 21:58
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Ola posted:Something like $2k I think. Depends where you live. A full wrap in the Seattle metro area is around 8k. Portland it runs around 5k.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:00
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silicone thrills posted:Depends where you live. A full wrap in the Seattle metro area is around 8k. Whoa! In Norway, which is usually the most expensive at everything, it's 20-25k NOK, which is $2400-3000. I suppose material choice makes a difference as well, but vinyl wrap material itself isn't that expensive.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:09
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The only thing I'm enthusiastic/fetishist about is EV technology, I am not a car person by any means. I just want a car with a weird quirky color because I'm weird and quirky or at least just really like bright colors, not because I'd gently caress an exhaust pipe 
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Oct 11, 2016 22:22
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silicone thrills posted:Depends where you live. A full wrap in the Seattle metro area is around 8k. Christ. You could literally save thousands by driving anywhere in the country to have it done at a better price.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:27
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We were specifically pricing out full body matte/stealth wraps so maybe it's something to do with that specific flavor? So for the announcement on the 17th... i'm going to bet on coat hooks in the Tesla S :P (seriously, for a car that throws your head back against the headrest, there's seriously no "oh poo poo" handles)
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Oct 11, 2016 22:47
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I'm suspecting something with autopilot. Probably v2 announcement, since software v8 is about as far as they can go with gen 1 hardware.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:02
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I'm going with bankruptcy.
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Godholio posted:Christ. You could literally save thousands by driving anywhere in the country to have it done at a better price. I'm planning to wrap my motorcycle, and I'm going to try to do it myself, because (1) it's only three painted pieces (the gas tank, front fender, and rear fairing) and (2) it's only going to cost like 40 dollars of the most expensive fancy car-wrapping vinyl there us, so I could gently caress it up like five times and still come out ahead of the price to have a pro do it.
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ilkhan posted:I'm suspecting something with autopilot. Probably v2 announcement, since software v8 is about as far as they can go with gen 1 hardware. ugh please no please please please
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Oct 12, 2016 03:50
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it has to be wireless charging. The mercedes S550e is going to have wireless charging. tesla can't afford not to. the tesla/solar city announcement the week after is going to be integration with a co-branded solar city/tesla powerwall/solar panel system so you put a panel on your roof, powerwall in your garage, and charging pad on the floor and you never have to plug your car in or pay for the power to charge it.
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Oct 12, 2016 04:02
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Yes, much better.
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And the 90kWh powerwall and ~9kW solar array can be had for the low price of only $another_tesla!
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Wireless charging is dumb. We have the sensors and actuators necessary for the car and charger to make a direct, metal‐to‐metal connection.
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Oct 12, 2016 04:28
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Powershift posted:it has to be wireless charging. The mercedes S550e is going to have wireless charging. tesla can't afford not to. But he did say it was an unexpected announcement, and wireless charging would fit that for sure. Wireless, snake, whatever. Long as you get power without having to manually plug in it'll be amazing.
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Oct 12, 2016 04:32
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Platystemon posted:Wireless charging is dumb. Wireless means fewer moving parts to fail, and less worry about things like snow or dirt impairing the connection. (Or the robot arm stabbing someone.) I think the battery in the 90D is about $30K USD, and theoretically the powerwall is less constrained in terms of weight and layout, so I think that's a rough ceiling.
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Oct 12, 2016 04:34
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Sagebrush posted:And the 90kWh powerwall and ~9kW solar array can be had for the low price of only $another_tesla! I would imagine they've done the research and figured most owners don't drain their battery past 75% in a day, so a 25kwh powerwall and 2.5kw solar panel shouldn't cost a whole lot. It might even pay for itself in 35 or 40 years.
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Oct 12, 2016 04:36
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Doesn't wireless charging also come with some major downsides? They tend to be much worse off efficiency wise, and at that scale the loss of efficiency could quickly translate into real dollars. There is also the issue of much slower charging when you are using a wireless system versus wired.
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Oct 12, 2016 17:37
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Plugless does L2 wireless charging (7.2kW measured at the car). I don't know what the efficiency is; I'll send a note and ask.
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Oct 12, 2016 17:50
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Subjunctive posted:Plugless does L2 wireless charging (7.2kW measured at the car). I don't know what the efficiency is; I'll send a note and ask. Just found this in their FAQ: Plugless is ~12% less efficient than corded L2 30amp 240V charging systems and ~7% less efficient than corded Level 1 charging systems.
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Shadowgate posted:Just found this in their FAQ: Plugless is ~12% less efficient than corded L2 30amp 240V charging systems and ~7% less efficient than corded Level 1 charging systems. So if 85 kWh costs $10, it's like paying someone a dollar to plug in your car (per full charge). And when you also consider that it'll be more expensive to install, require heavy and expensive hardware in the car and possibly waste space in the garage, I am convinced I'd go for a normal cable at home. But if the car supported it anyway, it would be a cool and convenient thing at a mall or service center or something.
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I can't help thinking that while on paper, inductive charging for your EV sounds pretty neato, in actual practice it would be super annoying and quickly abandoned, because it turns out the entire structure of your house resonates at the same frequency as the inductor, your TV goes all weird during a charge cycle, and the back voltage from the field collapsing every time the cat crawls under the car and it emergency shut-downs to avoid cooking the poor thing trips the main breaker every time.
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Finger Prince posted:I can't help thinking that while on paper, inductive charging for your EV sounds pretty neato, in actual practice it would be super annoying and quickly abandoned, because it turns out the entire structure of your house resonates at the same frequency as the inductor, your TV goes all weird during a charge cycle, and the back voltage from the field collapsing every time the cat crawls under the car and it emergency shut-downs to avoid cooking the poor thing trips the main breaker every time. This company has been selling these things for a while and I don't think it has any of these problems: https://www.pluglesspower.com/ I'd much rather have inductive charging standard in all EVs and be able to just drive into EV charging spots and not have to fuss with all the bullshit you currently do (EVGO why does your garbage online system only work on loving IE and why does my fob NEVER WORK AND I HAVE TO CALL TO UPDATE BILLING EVERY TIME  ok inductive charging wouldn't fix that) at public places but that seems like it'd be prohibitively expensive for many that are struggling to maintain too few plug chargers as it is. Maybe it'd be less maintenance costs though? 
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Boten Anna posted:This company has been selling these things for a while and I don't think it has any of these problems: https://www.pluglesspower.com/ It would be great for public stalls, especially from a maintenance perspective I'd think. But home charging, well I'm sure it's fine, but I just picture it being like "yay, newly installed wireless charger! Just pull my car over the pad, and, green light, wow it's charging!" *DOoooooooooooooooo* "huh, makes a little humming noise, but that's fine, it's in the garage." *goes inside* ooooooooooooooooooooooo..... *goes to bed in quiet bedroom situated above the garage* ....oooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOO
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I just kinda want to know what 10 kilowatts of focused RF does to stuff caught in the gap between the inductors.
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Sagebrush posted:I just kinda want to know what 10 kilowatts of focused RF does to stuff caught in the gap between the inductors. There's already plenty of induction stoves out there to test with + im sure cats have run between the plugless in the past. Most because cats love to hide in places that are super annoying to get them out from.
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Sagebrush posted:I just kinda want to know what 10 kilowatts of focused RF does to stuff caught in the gap between the inductors. They respond very quickly to inquiries through the thing on their site, you could ask.
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Subjunctive posted:They respond very quickly to inquiries through the thing on their site, you could ask. I just did. I'll let you know.
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Sagebrush posted:I just did. I'll let you know. Ashley will be in touch with you shortly!
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Sagebrush posted:I just kinda want to know what 10 kilowatts of focused RF does to stuff caught in the gap between the inductors. Maybe we could attempt to “charge” ICE vehicles that are parked in EV‐only spaces. I’ve changed my mind. Wireless charging is a great idea.
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Oct 13, 2016 03:13
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Why can't a robotic arm just plug in my car?
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Powershift posted:it has to be wireless charging. The mercedes S550e is going to have wireless charging. tesla can't afford not to. Doubtful, wireless charging a Tesla would take forever at 3.3kW.
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Oct 13, 2016 21:58
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Sagebrush posted:I just kinda want to know what 10 kilowatts of focused RF does to stuff caught in the gap between the inductors. If you watch the video in this piece you'll see what happens. A mechanic chucks a wrench onto the charging pad while the i8 is getting g juiced up: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/04/cutting-the-cord-ars-goes-hands-on-with-qualcomm-halo-wireless-car-charging/
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drgitlin posted:Doubtful, wireless charging a Tesla would take forever at 3.3kW. Plugless does L2/7.8kW, which is what most people get anyway, right?
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Subjunctive posted:Plugless does L2/7.8kW, which is what most people get anyway, right? Not in that BMW video.
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They told me it would do 3.3kW and also 6.3kW (iirc, something that started with a 6); the info should be in that article.
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