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Each type of plant has a few specified locations per jungle quadrant that it can spawn in and limits on how many plants can be in that area at any one time. Blast Cones for example have 5 possible spawn points per quadrant, one of which happens consistently, the other four of which are occasionally. A quadrant will spawn a Blast Cone around every 3 minutes, and there can't be more than two of them in a quadrant. Their spawn locations are all near interesting walls to cross/junctions to control. Scrying Blooms and Honeyfruit have similar spawn times and rules, though use different spawn points (e.g. Honeyfruit only ever appear in the river along the walls). First jungle clear is almost entirely pre-set. There's only slight variation in when plants spawn (~10s), so you can rely on plants generally having predictable behavior around the start and ends of clears especially. First generation of plants here spawn between the 1:00 and 2:30 range. Early game (until around minute 15) plants only appear deeper in the jungle, so that they don't feel like they're having too strong an impact on individual lanes. As the game progresses additional spawn points closer to the lane start getting used (e.g. there are Blast Cone locations you can use to dive some towers, but they're not going to occur until around 25 minutes). Expectation is, based off both plant spawn locations and who's travelling the map, that junglers will be the primary champions interacting with plants early to early-mid game, but eventually they'll be things that are occasionally relevant to any member of a team. Version we're currently testing is that plants have a 30s growing time (telegraph of when they'll be useable). They'll appear on the minimap once you've seen them, but won't be removed if someone uses them out of your vision until you revisit that spot (like small jungle camps or buildings in an RTS game). While a plant is growing there's no way to interact with it. After they've been used plants leave some withered remains behind for a short time (currently also 30s). As a result you sometimes won't want to interact with a given plant if you're concerned about signalling to the enemy team that you've recently been through a particular area. While there's some variation in where/when plants spawn the script that controls them is also designed so that it will distribute plants fairly between the sides of the map (one team shouldn't get screwed) and will pull back towards average results over time (if spawns have been much less frequent or infrequent than they should be on average for a little while the next period will have more/fewer spawns to compensate). Hey Riot? gently caress this poo poo, seriously
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I'm not reading that lol
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Oct 14, 2016 06:13
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One of the plants is basically super ziggs satchel, so get ready for the season of ranged counterjunglers
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Oct 14, 2016 06:17
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id rather not play the game anymore
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Oct 14, 2016 06:18
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Firebert posted:Hey Riot? gently caress this poo poo, seriously Wondering if they're going to walk this back during Preseason or not. The response appears to be overwhelmingly negative.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:19
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Imagine a kindred smiting your golem and satchelplanting away when you chase....forever
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Oct 14, 2016 06:21
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It's finally time to start climbing Dota 2 mountain. And I felt like I was just getting started with this league of legends business.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:21
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Already a lot of people giving their option and calling the jungle changes dumb. Heres mine. In text it seems extremely overly complicated and being activated on autos just screams ranged junglers being dominant, good luck not being sent flying back into graves or nidalee or kayle by the jump plant. Smite giving the red buff health restore seems dumb to me, the game already has heavy sustain and health swing situations, does it really need a jungler that's fighting someone near scuttle or wolf/birds to get back several hundred HP mid-fight suddenly? maybe they are worried about high sustain and clear junglers being dominate so they are making it so everyone is high sustain.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:25
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while i think a lot of people are enjoying the current jungle i am willing to bet that riot is concerned with how much free and easy exp and gold are in there and are trying to figure out a way to change it without pissing people off by just blatantly trying to lower the gold and exp
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Oct 14, 2016 06:27
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I'm just gonna be chill and try my best to enjoy the new jungle changes. As a casual normie, I think it's kinda dumb but it might be interesting.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:32
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So many massive changes, I don't even want to relearn them.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:37
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Yes this is incredibly complicated and massive, how can a human like me ever understand this
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Oct 14, 2016 07:04
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Hooray I did it. Placed into Silver 4 this season (Gold 5 at end of last season).
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Oct 14, 2016 07:13
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Teikanmi posted:Yes this is incredibly complicated and massive, how can a human like me ever understand this it's more of having to put effort in to relearn a game i've played for probably thousands of hours total. I haven't playedm uch league in the last 2-3 years and stuff is a little different. I haven't played dota at all in 5 years and i went back to it a few weeks ago and it only took a few games for me to relearn it.
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Oct 14, 2016 08:14
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Elentor posted:I need someone to tell me what APs are good right now. Is Zyra still viable? Zyra isn't really played mid lane much due to her immobility and poor ability to escape from ganks. You could play her mid if you can deal with that but she is better as a support.
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Oct 14, 2016 08:18
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ed balls
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Oct 14, 2016 08:28
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Got my smurf into plat just now. This champion/build is the definition of freelo:
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Oct 14, 2016 09:26
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i love that the best trade you can take is just to run up AA-Q and then run away like an idiot
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Oct 14, 2016 09:28
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rabidsquid posted:i love that the best trade you can take is just to run up AA-Q and then run away like an idiot Yeah there's also the part where this champion requires no mechanics or skill whatsoever and the only thing remotely resembling it is understanding Q bounces.
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Oct 14, 2016 09:34
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What are they trying to accomplish with these plants?
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Oct 14, 2016 09:37
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the riot guy who designed the plants thing or w/e looks like guy fieri and is silver 4 l0l
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Oct 14, 2016 09:44
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yea but what level of drug master is he
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Oct 14, 2016 09:49
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new idea ingame drugs or take a page from eve online and call them "boosters" or something equally dumb 25% chance to spawn 1d4 boosters randomly on the map whenever you autoattack a jungle monster
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Oct 14, 2016 09:55
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To go along with randomly spawning flavors of elemental drakes, each game should have a randomly spawned jungle from season 0-7. Maybe you'll get plants, maybe you'll get different buffs from Smite, maybe you'll get loving murdered, maybe your mid and adc will steal all your camps, maybe you'll spend every game poor. How each team reacts will dictate who is truly the winner in League of Legends.
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Oct 14, 2016 09:58
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get the season 0? 1? jungle on a low hp jungler and have to have your support babysit you because the jungle creeps can loving murder you
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Oct 14, 2016 10:03
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Nietzschean posted:new idea teemo off his loving nut on fentanyl 1v5ing this game
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Oct 14, 2016 10:06
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Just won a sub 17 minute game with Miss Fortune. Ride the elo train to diamond
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Oct 14, 2016 10:09
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Oct 14, 2016 10:24
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:Hooray I did it. Placed into Silver 4 this season (Gold 5 at end of last season). That's very nice, good job!
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Oct 14, 2016 10:45
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 I'm 4-4 in placements what is this elo? I'm pretty sure it's just Gold players with bronze elo. Shen teleported out of lane at level 6 and never came back leaving me to fend for myself against four man dives and despite Akali and I begging for someone to peel because I was doing the most damage in the game by a landslide the three tanks on our team just didn't get it and called me a noob. Luckily MF is broke as gently caress and Akali and I kinda just solo carried on virtue of blowing anyone up that didn't immediately target either of us
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Oct 14, 2016 11:08
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Nietzschean posted:
why is it always aatrox
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Oct 14, 2016 11:16
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:To go along with randomly spawning flavors of elemental drakes, each game should have a randomly spawned jungle from season 0-7. Maybe you'll get plants, maybe you'll get different buffs from Smite, maybe you'll get loving murdered, maybe your mid and adc will steal all your camps, maybe you'll spend every game poor. How each team reacts will dictate who is truly the winner in League of Legends. Maybe you'll get Feral Flare at release.
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Oct 14, 2016 11:20
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Tired Moritz posted:why is it always aatrox im guessing it only does this in the na client where aatrox is alphabetically first? someone should see if this bug exists in korea and if so if it shows garen
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Oct 14, 2016 11:22
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Plants serve to remind us all that Riot is successful in spite of itself.
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Oct 14, 2016 12:48
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dblankenship81 posted:Follow this guy on facebook and pay him to watch his stream, you'll be Diamond in no time. For real though, is there a guide for what are the best items to build now and jungle routes?
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Oct 14, 2016 12:53
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RC Cola posted:For real though, is there a guide for what are the best items to build now and jungle routes? http://champion.gg/champion/Vi Check this build and just go beat up the rock turtles and go through everything else.
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Oct 14, 2016 12:55
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Ayyyy because the jungle isnt weird enough, all camps are now solo camps except Raptors which are 5+1
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Oct 14, 2016 13:09
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I mean, it's kind of smart in a way. AoE junglers have been incredibly strong for like 2 years and junglers with no AoE harder to clear with. Graves, Nidalee, Skarner, Kayle, Kindred, Zac etc. are all top-tier for a while and this just lets other junglers be a little more viable.
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also   ahahahaha  
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i dont personally love those tattoos but if the people that got them are happy with em that's all that matters 
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