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Teikanmi posted:I mean, it's kind of smart in a way. AoE junglers have been incredibly strong for like 2 years and junglers with no AoE harder to clear with. Graves, Nidalee, Skarner, Kayle, Kindred, Zac etc. are all top-tier for a while and this just lets other junglers be a little more viable. I mean, plants dont really change that, especially when most of those junglers will have an outright advantage in exploiting them. I guess it means slower junglers can get more health after clears, but jungling is already pretty safe for most heroes In other news, apparently there are still players who get triggered when you call champions heroes; I assume that it's just bad players looking for anything to feel superior about, but it's more amusing to believe there are players who still feel threatened by dota2 
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These plant changes seem dumb. But if they do all that and then Zyra can't jungle they'll have failed.
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Oct 14, 2016 14:30
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These plants sound like a Heroes of the Storm map mechanic.
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Neurolimal posted:In other news, apparently there are still players who get triggered when you call champions heroes; I assume that it's just bad players looking for anything to feel superior about, but it's more amusing to believe there are players who still feel threatened by dota2 I remember dota goons going full retard I said champion instead so it goes both ways
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:Hooray I did it. Placed into Silver 4 this season (Gold 5 at end of last season). goongrats fellow diamond V achiever  what server are you in, I don't recognize the summoner name (Diamond V in NA here)
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Servaetes posted:I remember dota goons going full retard I said champion instead so it goes both ways this is still a solid play in any dota pub
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i dont mind if people say hero instead of champion but i get PISSED if anyone says 'money' instead of gold
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Anyone else ever have that embarrassing moment where you accidentally call your adc mom
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Teikanmi posted:I mean, it's kind of smart in a way. AoE junglers have been incredibly strong for like 2 years and junglers with no AoE harder to clear with. Graves, Nidalee, Skarner, Kayle, Kindred, Zac etc. are all top-tier for a while and this just lets other junglers be a little more viable. They already tried moving more HP to the big camps and it screwed a bunch of jungler that cleared based on good AoE. Mundo got banished from the jungle forever, for example. They ended up doing a rebalance to offset it so clearly they didn't want to stop AoE junglers being good.
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kingcobweb posted:Anyone else ever have that embarrassing moment where you accidentally call your adc mom no
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Haha yeah... me neither
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I would never make that mistake, because the ADC is the big, stupid baby that you, the strong, matronly support have to tend to.
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If they made camps just a single enemy that had all the exp, then nunu would hit 60% winrate and end games at level 18 while the opponent is level 5.
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How Rude posted:goongrats fellow diamond V achiever I'm on NA as well.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:If they made camps just a single enemy that had all the exp, then nunu would hit 60% winrate and end games at level 18 while the opponent is level 5. So are you for or against this?
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:If they made camps just a single enemy that had all the exp, then nunu would hit 60% winrate and end games at level 18 while the opponent is level 5. This too, Nunu was insufferable when a buff monster gave you an entire level. They had to move a ton of xp to the little monsters because of it.
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Vermain posted:Wondering if they're going to walk this back during Preseason or not. The response appears to be overwhelmingly negative. So it's just like every other pre-season.
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man you ever have a game that's just clownshoes as fuuuuuuuck and you have no idea how you win it playing a vs AI game now that i've kinda figured out how garen works. ryze disconnects like as soon as the game starts, so its 4v5 in the comp's favor for the first five or ten minutes. then someone decides to jungle while the AI goes 2/1/2 so you have two lanes that are just boned. then ryze comes back but at this point everyone is just flailing and has no idea what the gently caress they're doing and swapping lanes nonstop and feeding like gently caress, to the point that i almost just quit and ate a temp ban. this game is stupid.
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I can't wait until the 1 monster per camp change comes through and nunu goes to god tier
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Kashuno posted:I can't wait until the 1 monster per camp change comes through and nunu goes to god tier 
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this is one of those things where riot buffs a champion (nunu) because hes bad in the current metagame while they have plans to change up the entire metagame in the next few patches and coincidentally the champion they buffed will be a major benefactor of the changes. it has to be intentional right? they can't keep making the same mistake and not realizing it right?
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Bholder posted:So it's just like every other pre-season. and just like every other preseason riot makes a dumb loving change and then rolls it back not long after people tell them the change is loving dumb
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gvibes posted:"goes to"? 75% winrate incoming
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:man you ever have a game that's just clownshoes as fuuuuuuuck and you have no idea how you win it
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RealFoxy posted:Play Xin Zhao and speed run the bots i dont have xin zhao yet fake edit GUESS WHO I HAVE ENOUGH IP TO BUY ALSO NUNU BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:i dont have xin zhao
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Radical posted:this is one of those things where riot buffs a champion (nunu) because hes bad in the current metagame while they have plans to change up the entire metagame in the next few patches and coincidentally the champion they buffed will be a major benefactor of the changes. Well if they follow the pattern from previous seasons Nunu will be overtaken by Warwick when they introduce a new on hit item that they didn't think to test in him because he's not supposed to build it.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:i dont have xin zhao Hot bot tips: 1) bots used to ward bushes but they took that out for some reason, so now bots intentionally face check any bush they see an enemy walk into. Use this to negate range advantages, hit skillshots, etc. 2) Bots are relatively cowardly by nature and are very poor at kiting. If a bot is running, it probably won't hurt you, and if you get a bot low it will probably run even if it can't escape and could kill you. 3) Bots are hardcore stupid about chasing into creeps and will happily knock off 80% of their HP chasing someone who's low past waves. 4) Bots flee towards fountain basically always. If you "scare" a bot that's at its outer tower and you're between the outer and inner towers, it will walk right into you trying to escape. Abuse these to get fed and then just right click to victory. Also, extra side note: bots try to rotate to a lane if a tower falls so it's really easy to distract them by splitpushing if your team is feeding hardcore and they're at the inhibs or something.
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every on hit item is always good on the same few champions and utter garbage on whoever they think will build it so the fact that keeps happening is also very strange to me
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Easiest champ to beat bots with in my experience is Talon, since he's mostly aoe damage so you can one-shot small groups of AI But if you're at the point where a 1v1 against a bot gives you trouble then pick a marksman and practice your auto trading. You can just walk up to bots and auto them at level one
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Taciturn Tactician posted:They already tried moving more HP to the big camps and it screwed a bunch of jungler that cleared based on good AoE. Mundo got banished from the jungle forever, for example. They ended up doing a rebalance to offset it so clearly they didn't want to stop AoE junglers being good. Mundo ain't bad though 
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also if you can't 1v2 a lane versus bots... well... just don't be on my team, okay?
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Teikanmi posted:also if you can't 1v2 a lane versus bots... well... just don't be on my team, okay? We all start somewhere. Not everyone has played their leveling games yet, let alone 2000 ranked games
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Crazy Larry posted:Well if they follow the pattern from previous seasons Nunu will be overtaken by Warwick when they introduce a new on hit item that they didn't think to test in him because he's not supposed to build it. It's funny, I think the vast majority of onhit item nerfs have stemmed from "we didnt expect our tanky fast aspd boosting hero with an ult that applies onhits five times would build it"
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RealFoxy posted:Bots are laughably easy to beat with Xin, especially if you can figure out their patterns and just bait them into doing really stupid things. If bots start to group up there's a 100% chance they'll dump all their ultimates on you at once so let other people die then get that sweet penta. IM SORRY I WAS BUSY TRYING OUT NUNU DOIN A CUSTOM GAME JUST TO SEE HOW HIS poo poo WORKS AND GUESS WHAT NUNU OWNS
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OM NOM NOM MUNCHIN ON MOTHERFUCKERS EATING THEIR FACES AND poo poo AND GETTIN HEALTH FOR IT
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Hey you're new to the thread so this is really important: It's Willump that does the eating. Nunu is the child and he does not do poo poo
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doesnt he throw the snowballs
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