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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Rodyle posted:

This thread could easily be called Daisuke Ono and Sayaka Ohara Scream At Each Other Forever

And it's wonderful. :allears:

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Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.

Rodyle posted:

This thread could easily be called Daisuke Ono and Sayaka Ohara Scream At Each Other Forever

They have to power up for a few episodes before the real fight starts.

vector_to
Mar 7, 2013

Sod it, I've been holding off for a while in the vain hope that I could come up with something better, but seeing as it looks like chapter 1 is drawing to a close, what with everyone dead, I'll toss out a new, revised theory.

The culprit is the 19th human, Beatrice, and Kumasawa is her accomplice. The six corpses in the shed are easily explained by Kumasawa providing Beatrice with the shed key, and aiding in moving the bodies. For Eva and Hideyoshi, they forgot to set the chain lock, and the culprit used Kumasawa's master key to enter. After killing them, she kept Kumasawa's master key, and hid in the room. After everyone finishes investigating, the culprit escapes Eva's room, jumps out a window, and enters the boiler room through the back door, knowing that the relatives will soon notice the smell of Kinzo's corpse.

On that note, let's backtrack to Kinzo, shall we? Whilst we know he's reluctant to open his door to family, if Beatrice herself knocked, he'd be likely to open it, right? The solution is easy if we assume this. Beatrice enters Kinzo's room just after Natsuhi, and notices Eva's receipt as it falls from the door when it opens. She then places it back after killing Kinzo, and takes his body to the boiler room.

Back to Kanon, there's no issues here if we accept the 19th person. Once everyone holes up in the study, Kumasawa places the letter in order to split the group up. Once the servants hole themselves up in the parlour, Beatrice enters using Kumasawa's master key, and the two of them kill Genji and Nanjo. Beatrice then turns on Kumasawa, and finishes her off. She leaves a letter summoning Natsuhi to duel her in front of the portrait, then shoots her before she has a chance to react. Afterwards, the cousins arrive, and being unarmed, they die off-screen.

Purgatorio is just that. Everyone is dead, and Battler's spirit is struggling to accept what happened to everyone.

If anyone can find a hole in this, feel free to point it out. I'm kinda mad that I can't explain it with only 18 people, but I find it just as hard to accept that one of the corpses was fake. I wanna say that a 19th person on the island is slightly more likely than someone having a convenient spare corpse lying around to fake their death with, but that's just me.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?




BGM: Organ Short #600 Million in C Minor

"...What sort of black tea shall I prepare next? Allow me to display every refined tea that ever was and ever shall be."



"...Dried plum black tea. The kind at 200 yen a pack."
"*cackle*cackle*! For a thousand years, I have been fond of black tea, but I did not know of such a thing. I will never tire of living in this world."
"...Beato. You don't have to display such hostility. I am just a wandering witch. I didn't come with the intention of violating the rules of your territory."
"*cackle*cackle*, there is not even a sliver of hostility. I am just terribly concerned about seeing that the legendary witch, Lady Bernkastel, is well attended to."
"...You misunderstand. I am powerless. Before a witch such as you, who possesses the dreadful power to kill an individual a hundred times, I am completely powerless."
"That a powerless Lady Witch like you possesses a power that none can approach is what is truly terrifying. After all, that Great Witch, Lady Lambdadelta, was dethroned by you alone."
"...I only won an endurance contest. She simply got tired."
"That is not what Lady Lambdadelta said though. *cackle*cackle*cackle*, too much humility can be unseemly, Lady Bernkastel."



"However, you have the power to cause success without fail, 'as long as the odds are not zero'. Although you say 'without fail' doesn't exist in this world, you possess an infallible power yourself. How very terrifying, *cackle*cackle*cackle*!"
"...The power to kill an individual 'endlessly'...I think you're the more terrifying one."
"Such jests. From your point of view, mine is but a trifling power. This is most certainly what one would call empty praise."



"*cackle*cackle*! I, Beatrice, am deeply and humbly delighted to have the great Lady Bernkastel as an observer. *cackle*cackle*! And so, your impression?"
"Lambdadelta is terrifying because of her cruelty... however, she is a girl I can understand. You do seem to possess affection, but I can't understand you at all. That's why you're much more terrifying than her."
"*cackle*cackle*cackle*! I am fickle by nature. Do forgive me. Besides, I believe you also enjoy trusting your fate to the roll of fickle dice, right, Lady Bernkastel?"
"...When I roll the dice, I have a roll I clearly want to get. Unlike you. You, on the other hand, never let the dice fall from your hand. So, whatever the roll might have been, you're never disappointed. Whatever roll the dice show you, you are satisfied 'without fail'. In that sense, you far surpass me.



"*cackle*cackle*, *cackle*cackle*cackle*! Oh yes, witches truly are the best people to drink black tea with. One doesn't get bored. *cackle*cackle*!"
"Then, I'm relieved. Boredom is the only poison that can kill me. So, don't kill me, alright? Lady Beatrice, Endless Witch."
"If such is your wish, I, Beatrice, shall show you an even better time. In that case, wouldn't it be best if I brought the next chessboard in right away? It seems that the next tale would do more for you than a refill of black tea."
"..."
"Just wait for a moment. *cackle*cackle*!"





I'd really like to lend you my power but, as you just heard, that girl's power and mine have a very bad compatibility. Unfortunately. But you really are pitiful, so I'll help you out just a bit.



See what I mean? In other words, she's not some human. Her existence is a personification of the rules of this world. To beat her, you have to expose the rules of this world and unravel them.

For example, this can be likened to learning the rules of chess by watching a game. First, take a good look at the chessboard. Then, learn the movements and roles of the pieces. Then, look for the conditions required to win at her game. When you've managed to reveal all of these things, her heart will be exposed. After that, you can rip it apart or crush it as you please.



A spoon can be used for more than just drinking soup. You can use it to dig through the prison you're locked in, or as a weapon to gouge the witch's eyes out. Of course, you can also use the spoon to continually sip the watery soup inside your eternal prison.

Don't get the wrong idea. I have no intention of becoming your ally.



I intend to enjoy this endless tale that Beato is going to weave until I tire of it. But that alone won't hold my interest. That's why I'll lend you my power. It's all so that I don't get tired of this.

I am the cruelest witch in the world. Whoever the opponent may be, I'll certainly make them surrender. Even if it's Beatrice, the Endless Witch, alright...?



Quinn2win fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Oct 31, 2016

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
The profile page has been updated. With this, Episode 1 has officially been brought to a close.

Episode 2 will begin on Sunday. For following along with this tale so far, I thank you all.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
Hm. I am suddenly taken with the desire to read Higurashi; I mean, it's sitting right there in Steam, nearly finished, and this might be a good time to show support. Thing is, I've seen the anime (both adjectiveless and Kai, even Chiru, which was a mistake) and know all of the major plot points, would it still be worth a read, according to those who've read it?

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
I've never gotten all the way through it, but general consensus is that the Higurashi VN is far better than the anime. Just be sure to use a version that doesn't have R07's original sprites.

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


resurgam40 posted:

Hm. I am suddenly taken with the desire to read Higurashi; I mean, it's sitting right there in Steam, nearly finished, and this might be a good time to show support. Thing is, I've seen the anime (both adjectiveless and Kai, even Chiru, which was a mistake) and know all of the major plot points, would it still be worth a read, according to those who've read it?

The Higurashi anime is much better to its source material than Umineko's anime is, particularly Kai. The originalofficial English translation for Higurashi was truely awful, but I believe they fixed it later.

On the other hand, it was worth reading with the bad translation and is probably even better now, so do it if you have the time and the wait for umineko updates is annoying you.

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~
There is a lot I can't say because I've already read the whole thing, but I've been enjoying the reactions of those new to Umineko.

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica

ProfessorProf posted:

I've never gotten all the way through it, but general consensus is that the Higurashi VN is far better than the anime. Just be sure to use a version that doesn't have R07's original sprites.

Yeah. Hamhands are good for a laugh, but Umineko's original sprites at least had a certain charm and some amazing facial expressions that the redraws completely failed to emulate. Higurashi, not so much.

vector_to posted:

a new, revised theory

Nice job, even if an old granny helping carry six corpses to a storage shed seems odd. As a theory this seems to mostly hold. You're ignoring some magical parts such as the bloody claw marks on Natsuhi's door and the magic circle (square?) on Eva and Hideyoshi's door, though.

I'm certainly not saying this to dissuade anyone from making random theories, but you shouldn't just come up with a plausible human culprit and then rest on your laurels. I could lay out a more or less watertight Nanjotrice theory but obviously that can't be the answer so why bother.

In fact for the love of god everyone please make random theories and post them, doesn't matter if they're just bits and pieces. They're pretty much the reason many of us are here for.

Alternatively we can all just laugh menacingly at that foolish Battler struggling in vain as he ignorantly tries to deny the obvious and plain :witch:

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


tiistai posted:


Nice job, even if an old granny helping carry six corpses to a storage shed seems odd. As a theory this seems to mostly hold. You're ignoring some magical parts such as the bloody claw marks on Natsuhi's door and the magic circle (square?) on Eva and Hideyoshi's door, though.


This is a surprisingly hard mystery that most people overlook entirely. The culprit had only a few minutes to draw that extremely complex Magic circle. How did they do it, if not with magic? It was totally Magic. :witch:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Kaja Rainbow posted:

There is a lot I can't say because I've already read the whole thing, but I've been enjoying the reactions of those new to Umineko.

Post in the discord

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
When this update started I couldn't help laughing when Beatrice appeared, all I was thinking was "Greetings, I am Space Ghost."
Anyway to add more theories for the smarter people, this update seems to suggest that Beatrice "possesses" someone, but maybe it's just suggestions from Kinzo and his servants to grab one of the first six sacrifices and brainwash them into "becoming" Beatrice. Although maybe that's not limited to the First Six victims, someone smarter could make something that holds water cause I'm really just eager to see where this crazy poo poo goes.

vector_to
Mar 7, 2013

I actually have an idea for Natsuhi's door. If Beatrice's goal is to make people believe that the culprit is a witch, and she has access to Kumasawa's master key, then it makes sense. I imagine she was originally going to kill Natsuhi as one of the first six, opened the door to her room, then saw the charm and thought "Oh wait, this is totally a great chance to freak someone out."

As for the circle on Eva's door... I've still got nothing. Everyone is accounted for at that time, so short of Genji and Kanon just being loving blind and not noticing it the first time, I seriously can't work it out. Maybe the culprit has access to some sort of paint that is only visible after it dries, found in Kinzo's study?

Either Kumasawa or Genji work as the accomplice in this theory. I prefer Kumasawa because she can help corner Kanon in the boiler room, but Genji is better suited to carting the bodies around, I'll admit.

Elric
Mar 31, 2011


Look, the answer is clearly drugs. Someone drugged the tea with LSD or something, and so none of what anyone perceives can be trusted.

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


Elric posted:

Look, the answer is clearly drugs. Someone drugged the tea with LSD or something, and so none of what anyone perceives can be trusted.

Three words for you: Hallucinogenic Butterfly Dust.

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Elric posted:

Look, the answer is clearly drugs. Someone drugged the tea with LSD or something, and so none of what anyone perceives can be trusted.

I mean, Kinzo was drinking Chekov's glowing green booze earlier in this story. I assume something will happen with that eventually because it was mentioned quite a lot until Kinzo vanished.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

How often are the witches talking to Batter vs talking to the player? Are we another witch fighting with Battler as our game token?

I'm pretty sure that we were being spoken to directly at the end there.

... I want to read ahead, but I want to be able to talk about this ongoing.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

ProfessorProf posted:

I've never gotten all the way through it, but general consensus is that the Higurashi VN is far better than the anime. Just be sure to use a version that doesn't have R07's original sprites.

oath2order posted:

The Higurashi anime is much better to its source material than Umineko's anime is, particularly Kai. The original official English translation for Higurashi was truly awful, but I believe they fixed it later.

On the other hand, it was worth reading with the bad translation and is probably even better now, so do it if you have the time and the wait for umineko updates is annoying you.

And is this a paycheck I see before me...? Oh, what the heck, I'll take the plunge; good work should be supported.

Seriously, though, I have heard the anime adaptation for Higurashi, particularly Kai, is as good an adaptation that could be reasonably expected of that work... but I have also heard that, due to the very nature of that story, some context and necessary exposition was missed. So I look forward to looking over all the stuff I missed the first time around!

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
The other big problem with the Higurashi anime was that it was made by 00s-era Studio DEEN, well known for their "quality" animation.

Well, big problem, or big selling point, depending on your point of view.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Qrr posted:

I mean, Kinzo was drinking Chekov's glowing green booze earlier in this story. I assume something will happen with that eventually because it was mentioned quite a lot until Kinzo vanished.

...I don't think it's a spoiler to say that what Kinzo is drinking is Absinthe, a liquor associated with quite a few eccentrics and has more than a few times in history been banned in various countries due to concerns regarding its effects (which have probably been exaggerated). Wormwood is one of the ingredients in making it. It may or may not be normal absinthe, or he may (or may not) be adding something mysterious to it, but the type of liquor is known and just being described in a colorful manner.

If someone actually thinks knowing the type of liquor is some sort of spoiler, I'll remove this.


resurgam40 posted:

And is this a paycheck I see before me...? Oh, what the heck, I'll take the plunge; good work should be supported.

Seriously, though, I have heard the anime adaptation for Higurashi, particularly Kai, is as good an adaptation that could be reasonably expected of that work... but I have also heard that, due to the very nature of that story, some context and necessary exposition was missed. So I look forward to looking over all the stuff I missed the first time around!

Neither Higurashi or Umineko were considered particularly great adaptations compared to their source, but it still turned out well enough in the case of Higurashi (especially Kai) that it was still decent - if still nowhere near as good as the novel. Umineko? Not so much.

Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Oct 15, 2016

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
Nah, it's fine. As you say, there's no guarantee that it's ordinary absinthe.

IceBorg
Oct 23, 2012

I KINDA DOUBT THAT!
For people want to get in on Higurashi the manga is also a pretty good alternative to the visual novel.

As people said before the anime is not that good of a adaptation, you know you messed up a adaptation when you have to make a brand new arc to the anime because you took alot of stuff out of the first episodes that were important to solve the mistery.

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx
The Higurashi anime is pretty bad, but it's watchable. The manga and VN are both great. The Umineko anime is completely unwatchable.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Chickenfrogman posted:

The Higurashi anime is pretty bad, but it's watchable. The manga and VN are both great. The Umineko anime is completely unwatchable.

except for

https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D35dnAFiOz1k

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!



The Opening and Ending are good. The Next Episode previews are also hilarious and great. Occasionally scenes are done so poorly that they come right back around to being hilariously awesome. In time, I'm sure we'll be able to cover those moments in the thread.

But in general, Deen is a mediocre anime production house at best, and adapting Umineko is not a challenge to be taken lightly, to say the least.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

ProfessorProf posted:

Nah, it's fine. As you say, there's no guarantee that it's ordinary absinthe.

"Ordinary" absinthe. Absinthe will gently caress you up, man. Magical absinthe would probably melt your flesh like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

...maybe that's really what happened to Kinzo.

EDIT: Also, that bubble-wipe effect with Beatrice/Bernkastel teleporting(?) in and out is so hilariously corny.

KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Oct 15, 2016

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

KataraniSword posted:

"Ordinary" absinthe. Absinthe will gently caress you up, man. Magical absinthe would probably melt your flesh like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

...maybe that's really what happened to Kinzo.

EDIT: Also, that bubble-wipe effect with Beatrice/Bernkastel teleporting(?) in and out is so hilariously corny.

Bernkastel seems to also do it for no reason and just teleports around the room


Though I have not watched the anime I do like it's opening quite a bit as well.

https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DA0BbSBUTgLQ

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



oath2order posted:

This is a surprisingly hard mystery that most people overlook entirely. The culprit had only a few minutes to draw that extremely complex Magic circle. How did they do it, if not with magic? It was totally Magic. :witch:

Stencil and spray can?

You can get some pretty complicated patterns fast with that kind of equipment. And if it was a paper masking sheet, then it could be destroyed without anyone noticing in the confusion

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
In anticipation of the new Episode starting tomorrow, I've moved the EP1 character profiles into their own link. You might want to take a look at it, though.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
Huh. I missed the description of Kinzo saying he apparently disappears for long periods habitually, and no one seems to know where he goes... Not sure what that means yet, because I don't have any further information, but does that mean he actually disappears from his study, without anyone seeing how?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

resurgam40 posted:

Huh. I missed the description of Kinzo saying he apparently disappears for long periods habitually, and no one seems to know where he goes... Not sure what that means yet, because I don't have any further information, but does that mean he actually disappears from his study, without anyone seeing how?

The bio implies he just leaves and goes for walks without telling anyone.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?


Welcome back! Things are going to look a little different now - this is a lot more like what the PS3 version looks like.

Time for Episode 2.






BGM: Praise



"Yeah, they're really cute. I almost want to eat them."
"I, I'd feel so sorry for them... Did you know? I hear that the only people in the world who come to an aquarium and say that the fish look delicious are the Japanese."
"Is that so? ...I'm sure even Americans and Italians would want to eat these."
"...Uh, um...err..."
"Those clothes look good on you. Really."



Even though George's face didn't show it, the truth was that he'd said something so completely unexpected that it surprised even him, and he was as embarrassed as Shannon on the inside.However, when he saw how embarrassed Shannon was, he started to feel as though he was teasing the girl he liked, and instead of embarrassment, a ticklish amusement welled up in him.



It pains me to admit it, but I used to think that such embarrassing expressions had fallen so far out of use they no longer showed up even in manga. On the contrary, if he had seen another couple acting like that, he'd feel like throwing rocks at them. However, even if rocks were thrown at us now, I'm sure they would be just like confetti celebrating us. Now, I can't even remember those lonely days... when I felt jealous of couples who were completely oblivious to their surroundings. To use an old-fashioned phrase, these would be rose-colored days...

I'm so entranced that I don't even notice the big tank of the world's largest aquarium. Instead, I see Shannon rejoicing and playing with the fish.



"I heard that this tank is the biggest selling point here. And that it's the biggest in the whole world."
"Is that so? That's amazing. It's really wonderful. It doesn't even look like a tank at all, but rather like they sliced off a part of the sea with a knife and brought it here."
"I agree. This is a splendid little sea."

Despite its size, I hadn't thought of the tank as anything more than a tank. That's why I thought her expression about cutting of a part of the sea with a knife was so interesting. No matter how far humans broaden their experiences, they stick to their own view of the world in the end. Maybe that's why it's so interesting to mingle with people who have a different worldview. I was honest when I said that.

Then, she responded.

"Certainly, this might not be the real sea... But, if those little guys swimming in there believe that it's the sea, then to them it certainly is the sea."
"Even though they're inside a finite tank?"
"The sea is finite too. But, even if the sea were infinite, how much could we cover in our whole lives? I'm sure that it would only be a miniscule fraction of the sea."
"...Certainly. It's ironic, isn't it? Even though the world is so vast, most of us live our lives without ever leaving our own country."
"If they believe that this place is a complete world, then it would be a wonderful world, a sea... even if it were in the bottom of a narrow well. A sea in the eyes of the frogs that live there."

Shannon, who spent her days as a servant on a small island 10 kilometers in circumference called Rokkenjima, said that with a smile.



BGM: Ride On















Good morning. The Golden Witch has been waiting impatiently for you. Please take your seat opposite her at the table.

Have you rested well, and deliberated over how you will play? The Witch has high expectations of you, and is determined to come at you right from the opening. I, too, am looking forward to observing your moves.

The difficulty level is first-rate. The Witch plans to make you surrender in an instant.




BGM: Doorway of Summer

This buffet would certainly cause any boy's heart to jump about. I myself was like that in the past. But with Shannon beside me, this buffet felt different. I couldn't shamefully pile on only the things I like. I was... how should I put it... worried about my appearance and choose a menu suited for a snob: toast, salad and coffee. If I were by myself, I'd have made a pile of oily stuff like yakisoba, mash potato, gratins, and the like.



"...Umm, I, I didn't mean to imply that..."

On Shannon's tray, there was only tea and salad. Maybe the reason I thought she should have at least one more dish was because I was thinking with man's stomach.

"George-sama, will that be enough for you? I think it's better for men to eat a little bit more. I imagine that you would normally eat more than that during lunch, right?"
"Oops, really? You must have figured out how much I eat when I had lunch on the island."
"Yes. So, is your stomach not feeling good today?"

Shannon suspected that I wasn't feeling well. It seems that I've made her worry with my stupid attempt to show off. Besides, it didn't seem that my stomach would let me show off any longer.

"...Gah, ahaha... I'll confess already. I was just trying to look cool... I just held back because I was with a girl..."
"I thought so. Considering how much you eat during lunch at the family conferences, I thought that this wasn't nearly enough. Please, don't be so reserved, and feel free to go and choose another dish."
"It's not fair for only me to be embarrassed. What about you, Shannon? How do you manage your work for the Ushiromiya family while eating so little?"
"...Umm, uh, ...au."

Shannon grew silent and blushed bright red.



"My, my, that isn't enough for you, is it? Yes, normally, you eat more than this for lunch."
"A, a woman's stomach made of magic, so this is enough... au."
"Then it must mean that we were both showing off to each other. Let's not hold back anymore, shall we?"

I smiled to show that I wouldn't make fun of her anymore and stood up from the seat.

"After finally coming to Okinawa, it would be a waste if we didn't eat some bitter melon. I think I'll even have some fried bitter melon. Shannon, come with me. C'mon, c'mon."
"Aah, yes...!"



But it's only after trying to become a couple that you realize. This whole arguing back and forth means the world to us. That's why no matter how much everyone else stared at us with blank eyes, we wouldn't have noticed it. Indeed, at this age, I finally understand the feelings of couples who want to endlessly flirt without any regard to their surroundings.

After I returned with a plate piled up with fried food, Shannon arrived with a lovely cake. While laughing at our fake stoicism, we resumed our lunch.

"Even though it's a restaurant with a view of the sea, it's so cloudy."

Luckily, from our window seats we were shown seaside scenery so grandiose that it didn't fit entirely within our field of vision. However, because of the cloudy sky, it was a far cry from its normal beauty.

"That's right. If it were clear, we would undoubtedly see a deep blue sea."
"Yep. Even though I imagine you're used to the sea at Rokkenjima, normally, the sea here surely should have been an exceptional blue color. It's a real shame."
"Aah, but... no matter how blue it is, the sea I see during work might as well be gray. But, today, I'm not working so... I mean..."



"What a shame. If only you'd said 'When watching the sea with you, it would look deep blue no matter how gray it was', I'd have given you full marks and a prize."
"Uh, ah, I, I, I'm sorry... nnnnnn..."
"Wanna hear what my reward was?"
"Umm... uh, if you wouldn't mind..."
"No. I won't tell you. Ahahahahahaha."
"Th, that's no fair..."

When I was in elementary school, I was always the kid that got bullied. When everyone teased me, I grew nervous and speechless, to the delight of the bullies. Back then, I wondered why everyone teased me. But now, teasing Shannon like this, I understand why. This is so much fun. I can play with her emotions however I please, and I can have them all to myself. Right now, I can't think of any higher pleasure.

That's why I have to treat her lightly. I don't want her to get embarrassed and think bad of me. That's why I decided to end this topic here and now. I didn't want to be too obstinate.

"When you've finished your lunch, do you want to take a walk on the beach? Maybe the clouds will clear up and we'll be able to see a picturesque sea."
"That's right. I want to go see it."
"Yeah, let's do it. But, that looks like a really delicious cake. I wonder if I should get one like that too."
"You can't... If you eat cake after already eating so much, you will get fat. It looks like Hideyoshi-sama's blood is pretty thick on you, George-sama, so if you don't take care, you will get chubby."
"Shannon, you won't stop liking me if I get fat, will you...? After all, I wouldn't stop liking you if you did."
"I, I didn't mean it that way... If you don't take good care of your body, your health will... au."
"Mother warns me all the time too. Still, I also wonder if I should start doing some exercises or take up Tai-chi-chuan."
"You should start reconsidering your eating habits and go on a diet, instead of just exercising more. And furthermore, I heard that if you don't keep on exercising as well, you won't get any results."
"In other words, you're telling me to not eat cake, right? Then, I guess I'll just have to gaze at you while you stuff your cheeks with that cake, Shannon."
"Uh, umm... Maybe one whole cake is too much but... maybe just half of one would be alright. Here, it's really delicious."



I had no doubt that she wanted to share the delicious cake's flavor with me. Even so, I boldly and meanly pushed that plate away. She blinked her eyes in surprise. She could't seem to figure out if that was a refusal of the cake or not.

So I winked, opened my mouth, and said 'aah'.

"*giggle*. This is what you've wanted from the beginning, isn't it? Sheesh, you're such a pampered child, George-sama. Ok, say 'aah'."

While still wearing an embarrassed, annoyed face, Shannon offered the cake to me with a fork.

*chomp*.

It had the flavor of cheap chocolate you could find anywhere. Still, it was exceptional. Because eating cake in such an embarrassing way, as if we were a couple of perfect fools, had been my dream for many years. It made this cake's flavor heavenly... If the Earth is destined to end someday, I wouldn't have any regrets if it happened right now. It was such a moment of bliss.

After that, we gathered shells, ran from waves and enjoyed each other's company while walking along the beach. In the end, the clouds never parted. However, we both believed that our eyes were still reflecting a deep, blue sea.



"You do say that from time to time. What is it that you're afraid of?"
"...I'm... a servant of the Ushiromiya family. For someone like me, to be hanging out with a member of the Ushiromiya family... Umm... It just seems like too much for me."
"I'm also surprised. I didn't just meet you yesterday or today, Shannon-chan. We've known each other for years now. But, we can only meet during the annual family conference.



BGM: Praise

"Eerh, I'm... umm..."
"Hm?"
"...I only... imagined. No, umm, err! Rather than imagination, it was more like a delusion... When I started this relationship with you, George-sama, when you're always so considerate and gentlemanly... I mean, it just felt like a delusion..."
"Then, our relationship happened thanks to your believing heart. Magic dwells in the power of feeling. So, I'm sure that magic has brought us together."

"...You're right. ...I really think... that this is truly magic."
"But, you know, that's not quite right. Every time we met, the Shannon within my heart kept becoming more and more beautiful. If the same thing happened to you, then the fact that we are here today is simply an inevitable consequence, rather than something caused by magic or a miracle."



She stopped walking on the beach, gazing beyond the sea.

"...A miracle?"
"No, magic. It happened."

I was bewildered by that slightly mysterious expression, which I sometimes heard her use.

"...Magic, you say?"
"Yes, magic... Even if I say it, you probably won't believe me, so I won't say it. But, that magic definitely had the power to grant the miracle which caused you and I to meet each other."
"You mean, like a good-luck charm?"
"Yes. Maybe it was something like that. Except that it wasn't a charm, it really was magic."
"...Hmm?"



BGM: Sakura

For a man like me, 70% of an encounter with a girl is an endeavour to try and please her, while 20% of it is raw courage. And the remaining 10% is luck. What she chooses to believe weighs little in my thoughts. Maybe that way of thinking is in itself calculating and typical of men. But, were I to express that in words, any kind of magic would be broken.

I thought that, before we entered into this relationship, we both had many fortuities, concessions and great efforts. After all that, if she wants to call these times together 'magic', that isn't strange in the slightest. That's why I answered her the way I did.

"You're right. If the same fate were repeated a hundred times, maybe you and I could get into a relationship like this only one of those times. In the other instances, even though we would be aware of each other, maybe we would have only maintained a reserved relationship after all this time. Compared to those otherworldly selves, we are undoubtedly in a miraculous relationship."
"It's not like that... it really is magic. No matter how often you tell men something like this, they'll never believe it. Kanon-kun didn't believe me at all, either."
"...I believe you. Because I wouldn't want to break the magic by not believing in it."
"George-sama..."



Those words seemed to be very pleasing to Shannon. Because if the two of us believed in the magic of love, that love would be eternal.

"Oh, that's right. I have one more whim, but I'm not sure if you'd be willing to listen."
"...Yes? What is it?"
"You know how you call me 'George-sama'? It's not that I dislike it, but would you not call me that anymore?"
"Of course, you have to keep up your appearance with the Ushiromiya family, so I wouldn't force you to do so during your everyday routine at Rokkenjima. But, when we are alone, I'd rather you didn't call me that. Yeah, let's create that rule."
"A, a rule? I, if I violate that rule, what would happen...?"
"Hmm... Maybe we should have some kind of punishment game if you transgress the rule. Yes, what should it be... Wanna hear?"
"N-no, I don't want to hear..."
"Ahahahahahaha. I'll have to think about what it should be."
"Ok. ...George...san."
"...Yeah. That sounds wonderful, doesn't it? I'm so happy, Shannon."



"I got it. The rule must be fair. I'll also keep it, and from now on, I'll have to call you Sayo. Alright? Sayo...?"
"Y-yes."

I embraced her shoulder. Then I forcefully embraced her entire body while she dived into my chest like a doll. As I held her head in my arms, we looked at the horizon.



"...Me too. I'm very happy that I can look at this deep blue sea with you."

As we gazed at the gray sea and a light rain began to sprinkle down, we kept listening to each other's heartbeats.



BGM: None

It wouldn't let me forget the memories of the day when my old fate was broken and smashed.

In the past, tomorrows were literally like a mirror to me. The person I am now, was always projected there. It was a tomorrow absolutely no different from today. That was my old fate. But at that moment, for the first time, I saw a different fate beyond the mirror.

The witch whispers. She tempts me to take a bite out of the fruit of knowledge. She torments me, saying that as long as I stay in the paradise of god, I'll remain furniture. So I try to choose to know love, and become a person.

...Those days were like sweetly melting honey, but then, I hadn't realized that they were the beginning of the days filled with a new kind of suffering...



No, I couldn't possibly call it an islet. It'd really be more appropriate to call it a reef. On the reef, there was a torii and a small shrine for the local deity. It was probably built to worship the guardian deity of Rokkenjima. Even though I didn't know the exact meaning, I understood that it had a holy significance.

Even in a place like this, I took just one more look around to see if there was someone who'd find fault with me being here. The only things I could see were the stormy ocean, Niijima looming in the distance, and the waves breaking against Rokkenjima's steep cliffside. I readied myself, timidly approached the small shrine, and took the mirror that was offered to that place.

It was an old-looking mirror, dim and dirty. If it were an ordinary mirror, that'd probably give you a terribly bad impression of its value. However, since the mirror had been offered to this small shrine, it made you feel some kind of divinity. And I noticed. This was not merely a mirror. Even if it would have been nothing more than an old-looking mirror to a non-believer like myself, it was actually a mirror that had an important meaning.



...No, this is not really a mirror. This is my life that I could not escape until today, and my fate.

I'll break it. I'll break it, and seize a life from beyond the mirror. If I don't break it, my life will forever be a pair of facing mirrors. Nothing will ever change in the slightest...



She tempts me to take a bite of true wisdom. Maybe I'm already having a taste of that truth. Because I ended up knowing those maddening sentiments. Just as Adam and Eve felt compelled to pluck the fig leaf.

By now, I must break this mirror. Until today, I had fought for many days. Inside my heart, the virtuous part of me and the part that sided with the witch repeatedly fought each other. And now, here I am.

Did the part of me who is here win or lose? There's only one thing I know. To obtain something, you must be ready to lose something. The cowards who don't risk loss and never try to change anything will never receive the key that opens the path to a new future. The key is already in my hands. The key is to break this. To break it.



No. There's nothing but this. Come, have courage. I'll free myself from being mere furniture. And I'll receive new sufferings, and become human. These are surely the small and large trials I must impose on myself.

Come on, break it. Break the eternally unchangeable fate that imprisons me, into pieces...!

I raise the mirror high... and think back on the preceding days of conflict... and, finishing my reflections in the blink of an eye... I throw it.



I look down on the mirror tumbling at my feet, broken in two equal parts... and after I made sure I've accomplished my task, I scream while looking up at the enraged sky.



A thunder roars once more.

I'm already banished from paradise. That's why I have to struggle by myself in order to live. The witch said it. That's the sole element of the world. To lose it means to lose the world. Like how a canteen with a hole on the bottom can't be filled, no matter how much water you pump into it...



:siren:Video: Opening:siren:



LET'S PLAY UMINEKO NO NAKU KORO NI, EPISODE 2: TURN OF THE GOLDEN WITCH

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tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013


I was about to point out how the "fat" remarks make more sense with the old sprites.

But what the hell is George wearing?!

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


Bholder posted:

I was about to point out how the "fat" remarks make more sense with the old sprites.

But what the hell is George wearing?!

It's actually a reference to a Higurashi character, Tomitake. Its the name of his photography company. I think he even wears the same shirt?

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
So there was something I saw in the opening and I don't know whether or not I'm seeing it properly, but are Battler and Beatrice embracing each other in one of those images?!

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
The opening is really good.

Also apparently this was Shannon's fault.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
I don't know how it could be called Shannon's fault, per se, since we don't know the specifics of this promise she made... but it is interesting that she went to the shrine and did something like a spell to be free of servitude.

But I don't suppose I blame her after a sweet date like that! :3: I wonder if we're going to see something like Higurashi here, where the same essential event will be experienced by different charactes, thus providing more information (that wasn't an invitation to tell me, I'm just spit-balling). I also like the new presentation very much; allows me to see more of the sprites.

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oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


resurgam40 posted:

I don't know how it could be called Shannon's fault, per se, since we don't know the specifics of this promise she made... but it is interesting that she went to the shrine and did something like a spell to be free of servitude.

But I don't suppose I blame her after a sweet date like that! :3: I wonder if we're going to see something like Higurashi here, where the same essential event will be experienced by different charactes, thus providing more information (that wasn't an invitation to tell me, I'm just spit-balling). I also like the new presentation very much; allows me to see more of the sprites.

I do have a really funny image of Shannon just being totally fed up with George's weird goony ideas of romance, and just staying with him cause he's loaded and has a nice rear end.

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