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Alcoholism: the final boss of chat threads
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Perhaps you're familiar. No, how could you be... But one day, you will post in this decrepit thread, without really knowing why. Like a moth drawn to a flame, your eyes will burn in anguish. reply, after reply. For that is your fate. The fate of the cursed.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:09
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I got recommended that haedox guys vids and they all suck
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Oct 14, 2016 20:21
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Snak posted:yeah, and that's okay. But the old games don't stop being RPGs just because there is a new meaning. The Witcher 3 is an RPG. RPGs are most arguably about making choices. Now, in the modern sense, that choice almost always just "what stat do I upgrade?" But it's still the fact that you chose where to put the point that makes it an "RPG element". If you just had your stats improve across the board as you progressed through the game, people wouldn't really consider it an RPG. Final Fantasy 4 and Final Fantasy 9 don't have that kind of choice but they do have equipment choices and I'd say they're still RPG's. I think "stats progression that has a meaningful impact on gameplay" is the line. I like when games give you more choice about progression or flexibility like skill trees and job systems but they're not necessary to the definition.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:49
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Was there ever a game released that basically replicated how combat works in D&D 4e?
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Oct 14, 2016 20:52
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Monkey Fracas posted:Was there ever a game released that basically replicated how combat works in D&D 4e? There was a facebook game. but it's gone
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Oct 14, 2016 20:56
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Apparently if you have a YouTube channel and make a few videos about how lovely you think Activision are and how much you hate what they did to Crash and Spyro they will send you hundreds of dollars worth of toys for the newest Skylanders game in return. I'm jealous because I wish that activision would give me free poo poo but I really don't have anything I could make a video out of regarding their stuff so oh well
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Oct 14, 2016 21:31
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bloodychill posted:I think at this point, RPG has just become short-hand for "you get new skills, possibly gain levels." Yeah, it's not role-playing in the tabletop or MMO sense, but at some point we accepted stupid genre names and they stuck. Its not even at this point; "RPG" has meant "Game with stats in" for a really long time. Most RPGs do not actually have anything close to 'role playing', although there are several that do. (IMO Vampire: TM Bloodlines is one of the best attempts) Monkey Fracas posted:Was there ever a game released that basically replicated how combat works in D&D 4e? 4th ed is already a videogame!  Seriously though 4E is pretty much taking D&D and making it more videogame like. All your abilities are just buttons to push.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:36
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Guys, I want to play XCOM: Enemy Within but I could never get past that mission with the chryssalids in the whale. What do I do?
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Oct 14, 2016 21:38
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corn in the bible posted:There was a facebook game. but it's gone There was a hole here, it's gone now.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:41
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Monkey Fracas posted:Was there ever a game released that basically replicated how combat works in D&D 4e? There was a game on PS360, but it was shite.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:42
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Lizard Wizard posted:Guys, I want to play XCOM: Enemy Within but I could never get past that mission with the chryssalids in the whale. What do I do? Also abuse explosions/AOEs as much as possible
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Oct 14, 2016 21:53
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Zaphod42 posted:4th ed is already a videogame! That's why it would translate so well! Bit late for that now though I guess Healbot posted:There was a game on PS360, but it was shite. Ugh, welp.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:53
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It's pretty sad that the one D&D edition with a consistent and working ruleset that would translate well to a video game doesn't get one
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Oct 14, 2016 21:55
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Protip: if you want a D&D video game, you don't actually want D&D.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:00
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Lizard Wizard posted:Protip: if you want a D&D video game, you don't actually want D&D. I want both.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:03
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Lizard Wizard posted:Protip: if you want a D&D video game, you don't actually want D&D. Yup, which is why lots of people moved to Pathfinder. 4E is the very best D&D for somebody's first ever roleplaying experience. Then as soon as they're comfortable with the idea, you move on. Personally I love White Wolf D10. Its just so simple compared to D20.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:03
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Zaphod42 posted:Yup, which is why lots of people moved to Pathfinder. It's also the very best D&D if you want combat that isn't horseshit
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Oct 14, 2016 22:05
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Zaphod42 posted:Yup, which is why lots of people moved to Pathfinder. There are 10 less D's, of course it's more simple.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:08
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bloodychill posted:There are 10 less D's, of course it's more simple. Its math!
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Oct 14, 2016 22:09
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Don't start one of those Dungeons and Dragons edition arguments in which one side keeps talking about recalcitrant grognards and one side talkes about system complexity as being bad for actual roleplaying; they're old and boring. I do think it is very funny that Paizo took the Wizards marketing model and turned it on its head, almost stealing one of their major products out from under them, but both system designs have their flaws and their strengths and both companies have disgusting people working for them, so who cares?
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Oct 14, 2016 22:09
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Bicyclops posted:Don't start one of those Dungeons and Dragons edition arguments in which one side keeps talking about recalcitrant grognards and one side talkes about system complexity as being bad for actual roleplaying; they're old and boring. Paizo doesn't really have disgusting people working for them and they are generally pretty good about lgbt and other minority stuff. I don't like their game design but that really isn't a good reason to hate a company. WOTC on the other hand has literal MRAs as their advisors in 5e.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:12
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I just think 4e's combat system would make a neato little SRPG is all 4e itself is kinda restrictive as an actual D&D game; simplicity for the sake of streamlining and all that
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Oct 14, 2016 22:13
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Andrast posted:
Yeah, the 5e team definitely has some terrible people and I don't know what they were thinking. It doesn't seem to match the identity Wizards is trying to build as a brand, even if you consider the printed materials from the product itself.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:18
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Monkey Fracas posted:I just think 4e's combat system would make a neato little SRPG is all http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tactics 3.5 though sorry Also it's not very good.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:19
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Sakurazuka posted:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tactics Yeah, AD&D had a lot of old games based on it and 3.0 and 3.5 have lots of newer games based on them (like temple of elemental evil) but the point is 4.. I don't think it does. Which is kinda funny since its so videogamey in its design.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:21
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Really, just have a good DM.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:21
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Wizards is a really interesting company to watch because so much of what they do is built on niche interests that in theory should have a ton of competition, so they have to lean on brand. Like, with the proliferation of trading card mobile games, I liked watching Magic adjust. The online version sort of can't compete with the new games because the timing system for Magic makes digital versions really, really slow, so they actively worked on brand stuff and all of a sudden, people who didn't play the game are getting back into it. I dunno, I like watching how the market works with nerd poo poo.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:23
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The D&D license was stuck inside the dying shell of Atari when it was relevant so it never got games.Lizard Wizard posted:Really, just have a good DM. Every DM has to start from somewhere and nobody is good without practice. Making it easy to DM is one of the biggest strengths of 4e since encounter building is easy, the classes are balanced and the combat rules make sense. Not that I would recommend starting your DMing with any edition of D&D. There are many good and less mechanically heavy systems that are better to start with. Andrast fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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Oct 14, 2016 22:27
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One of the only flaws about the great gift to us all that is video games is that, because are based around reaction times and assemble around a monitor, even a multiplayer game can be a bit difficult to arrange social events around in person. I look forward to the day technology allows me to install video games inside tables that do not involve manual dexterity, and what Charlie Brooker will be writing about them.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:32
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Both low-level 4E and 5E D&D are totally fine game systems to learn with. Older editions not so much. If you and your friends are just starting out, the best game to learn is the one everybody's interested in. It doesn't even really matter if the game is amazing (since you're not going to be a great GM your first time anyway) or if you're doing it right (which you won't on your first time), what really matters is that everyone is motivated enough to get into it and try. Stuff with recognizable branding like D&D and Star Wars is good for that, and have multiple game systems so you can pick the best/most newbie friendly/newest/whatever version (and solicit lots of good advice about which version that is) instead of having to rifle through used bookstores for rules or run your whole game off of PDFs.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:51
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the best d&d is kotor, and kotor 2
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Oct 14, 2016 23:53
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The best D&D is Dragons & Dogma
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Oct 14, 2016 23:58
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Whatever D&D they play in Netflix drama, Stranger Things, gets my vote, which I assume is either some confusing second edition variant or non-existent.
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Oct 15, 2016 00:38
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Monkey Fracas posted:In the video Game Super Mario Bros you Play the Role of Mario, a plumber who must save the princess from a giant evil turtle who has multiple boss forms and sits at the end of a donjon Excuse me you only fight Bowser once. All the others are minions enchanted to resemble him.
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Oct 15, 2016 00:50
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Bicyclops posted:Whatever D&D they play in Netflix drama, Stranger Things, gets my vote, which I assume is either some confusing second edition variant or non-existent. Most likely 1st edition AD&D (2E wasn't out yet when Stranger Things is set), playing fast-and-loose with rules and narrative because they're kids.
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Oct 15, 2016 00:52
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CJacobs posted:The best D&D is Dragons & Dogma Yes!!!
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Oct 15, 2016 01:15
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I've actually wanted to play d&d with my friends for a long time now, but we've just never gotten to setting up
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Oct 15, 2016 01:16
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Gumshoe is the best system because watching your friends bundle their way through a murder mystery or x files investigation is funny
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Oct 15, 2016 01:27
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