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Phanatic posted:That's gotta be a case where the breech was open, right? The barrel's got to contain an explosion that's a hell of a lot more energetic than a grenade, even if the grenade set off a loaded round that'd be inconsequential for the barrel. Explosives =/= propellants. The localized peak pressure from a grenade is almost certainly higher than even the initial chamber pressure from firing the gun. A grenade in the barrel is at a minimum going to cause the gun to be unsafe to fire. You are correct that something else went terribly wrong if that single grenade actually killed the tank, though. Even if it ruins the tube, the breech should be shut, and it should contain the damage to the tube itself. Unless the autoloader had it open.
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Brain tissue contains lots of low-density fat and a head contains little high-density muscle compared to the value for an entire human body, and the skull is relatively porous with all those sinuses. It should float better than an arm or leg at least. Worse than a torso with air in the lungs and decomposition gases in the gut though. This is 100% idle speculation. (edited for clarity) aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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aphid_licker posted:Brain tissue contains lots of low-density fat and little high-density muscle compared to your average human and the skull is relatively porous with all those sinuses. It should float better than an arm or leg at least. Worse than a torso with air in the lungs and decomposition gases in the gut though. This is 100% idle speculation. I love this dead gay forums (fora?)
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Oct 15, 2016 00:59
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Quick someone go do the math on how floaty various body parts would be.
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Oct 15, 2016 01:23
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According to Weight, volume, and center of mass of segments of the human body - CE Clauser, JT McConville, JW Young 1969, the head has an average volume of 4.4 litres but weighs 4.7 kg. Therefore it would not in fact float. 
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Like, I knew in the abstract that was a paper, because agonizing detailed anatomical textbooks predate modern medicine, but it's still weird to know that that is a paper that exists.
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7TP Queue: 3.7 cm Pak, Renault R35, R35 in German service, Medium Tank T1E1, T-55 Available for request:  T2E1 Light Tank Christie Combat Car T1 and Convertible Medium Tank T3 M3A1 Combat Car T4 Medium Tank T1E1  Medium Tank Mk.II Medium Tank Mk.III A1E1 Independent Vickers Mk.E NEW  LTP T-37 with ShKAS ZIK-20 T-12 and T-24 T-55 HTZ-16 Wartime modifications of the T-37 and T-38 SG-122  Otto Merker's tanks Strv m/38 and m/39  TK-3/TKS Trials of the TKS and C2P in the USSR 37 mm anti-tank gun  SR tanks Type 95  Renault NC Renault D1 Renault R35 Renault D2 Renault R40  PzI Ausf. B PzI Ausf. C NEW PzII Ausf. a though b PzIII Ausf. A PzIII Ausf. B through D PzIV Ausf. A through C Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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Fangz posted:According to Weight, volume, and center of mass of segments of the human body - CE Clauser, JT McConville, JW Young 1969, the head has an average volume of 4.4 litres but weighs 4.7 kg. Therefore it would not in fact float. Welp I tried 
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quote:The scandal was settled by lowering the cost of the shipment: down to 3165 pounds sterling per tank from 3165 Might be a slight error here
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Whoops, fixed it. Supposed to be £3800.
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Fangz posted:According to Weight, volume, and center of mass of segments of the human body - CE Clauser, JT McConville, JW Young 1969, the head has an average volume of 4.4 litres but weighs 4.7 kg. Therefore it would not in fact float. That density is probably part of why Dexter Filkins mentioned in The Forever War that suicide bombers in Iraq naturally ended up with their bodies destroyed and all over the immediate area but the head would more often than not pop off in the explosion and lend up more or less intact a block or two away. my dad posted:Might be a slight error here If you take the current rate of GBP devaluation it probably was cheaper the second time he wrote the number.
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FAUXTON posted:If you take the current rate of GBP devaluation it probably was cheaper the second time he wrote the number. 
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Fangz posted:According to Weight, volume, and center of mass of segments of the human body - CE Clauser, JT McConville, JW Young 1969, the head has an average volume of 4.4 litres but weighs 4.7 kg. Therefore it would not in fact float. What about in salt water
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:What about in salt water Sea water is only like ~3% more dense than fresh so it still wouldn't float.
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What about the Dead Sea?
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What if you were just in the middle of blowing a chewing gum bubble when your head was ripped off
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Oct 15, 2016 05:38
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What about in an oil slick from a sinking ship
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Sigh, my googling is failing me. In Hoi4 I want to try to structure my divisions as some optimal version of what the Soviets used but I can't seem to find anything. Does anyone know what was the structure of a 1943: -Tank Division; what's the difference between a Guards vs. non-Guards? -Infantry Division. -Motor-Rifle Division?
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MrYenko posted:Explosives =/= propellants. The localized peak pressure from a grenade is almost certainly higher than even the initial chamber pressure from firing the gun. On the phone now, but the tank and the grenade vid is one of the staged ones.
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Oct 15, 2016 06:28
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What about a head with no brain left in it? Those things are mushy and prone to leak out when the skull is subjected to penetrative force.
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well if all the brain's gone, then water will just get in through whatever hole the brain escaped through.
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What if the head was a bloody handprint on a volleyball
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FAUXTON posted:What if the head was a bloody handprint on a volleyball That's Gay Black Wilson territory, I'm afraid.
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Nenonen posted:In WW2 US light tanks used 37mm canister, it was a preference in the Pacific jungles to clear bushes. Some medium guns used it too, but they might have been delayed burst shells, I don't remember. 
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Raenir Salazar posted:Sigh, my googling is failing me. Have you looked at niehorster?
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Medium Tank T1E1 please.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:What about a head with no brain left in it? Those things are mushy and prone to leak out when the skull is subjected to penetrative force.
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T-55 please!
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PittTheElder posted:Hey Gal, is it at all clear in whatever archives you go digging into just how long opposing pike blocks would be in active contact with one another? Curious how long it takes before one side breaks through or withdraws. For the second question, although battle casualties for the 17th and 18th century are higher than they will be later, most losses are due to illness or desertion. A 17th century army is constantly losing strength no matter what you do, and its authorities are constantly recruiting in an attempt to make up for this. The question of wounded and the effects of the numbers of wounded is difficult to answer, since sometimes they end up being left behind once the army begins to travel again--whether you won or not. (Wallenstein did this several times, for instance.) Then they might catch up, they might die, or they might be taken prisoner if the place where they were is taken by the enemy.
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Ensign Expendable posted:7TP Curious about the R35, both French and German, the 37mm, and the Strvs.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Sigh, my googling is failing me. On mobile, so can't really get into translating it, but this page is what you need. There is no structural difference between a guards and a non-guards unit. A Guards unit excelled in combat and gets paid more as a result. The only exception being heavy tank breakthrough units who received their guards status in advance, as they were expected to excel.
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Raenir Salazar posted:So I was watching some videos from "Military History Visualized" narrated by a German dude, I don't recall in particular if any of the ones I saw rang any alarm bells but of course his comments appear to be inundated by cancer. was that actually the MHV guy? A lot more political then I expected from him.
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FAUXTON posted:Sea water is only like ~3% more dense than fresh so it still wouldn't float. What about if you get decapitated next to a giant vat of grape soda & your head falls in. Edit: Oh man would your head float on a river of blood? That would be a great visual for a metal vid. Assume anti-coagulants. Rodrigo Diaz fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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Monocled Falcon posted:was that actually the MHV guy? A lot more political then I expected from him. The comment was from a random youtube commenter, MHV narrator only strikes me as slightly political, but it isn't something I can put my finger on without rewatching it. Ensign Expendable posted:On mobile, so can't really get into translating it, but this page is what you need. Thanks! Does the page you link also mention what a Heavy Tank breakthrough division looks like? edit: Putting it into google translate, I see "Brigades", "Shelves" (Regiments?) and "Battalions", Hearts of Iron 4 operates on a division-is-four-regiments structures. Would a "Brigade" be my version of a "Division"? Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:What about if you get decapitated next to a giant vat of grape soda & your head falls in. Probably. Blood has a specific gravity of 1.0621 I believe, while plain water is 1.00 and salt water is around 1.02.
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Would your disembodied head float on a river of dark chocolate syrup? I need to know for reasons.
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MrYenko posted:Would your disembodied head float on a river of dark chocolate syrup? Sounds like the next Willy Wonka movie is going to be really weird.
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Raenir Salazar posted:The comment was from a random youtube commenter, MHV narrator only strikes me as slightly political, but it isn't something I can put my finger on without rewatching it. Ahaha, oh Google. Yes, полки is both shelves and regiments, depending on what syllable you stress. There is no such thing as a heavy tank breakthrough division. Tank divisions were abandoned as a formation in 1941. A heavy tank brigade contains three heavy tank regiments, which is close to what you want.
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Ensign Expendable posted:There is no such thing as a heavy tank breakthrough division. Tank divisions were abandoned as a formation in 1941. "Stalin? How many tank divisions does he have?" - the Pope, ca. 1943
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3.7 cm Pak Queue: Renault R35, R35 in German service, Medium Tank T1E1, T-55, Strv m/38 and m/39, Vickers E, Christie Combat Car T1/Convertible Medium Tank T3 Available for request: T2E1 Light Tank M3A1 Combat Car T4 Medium Tank Mk.II Medium Tank Mk.III A1E1 Independent Vickers Mk.E LTP T-37 with ShKAS ZIK-20 T-12 and T-24 T-55 HTZ-16 Wartime modifications of the T-37 and T-38 SG-122 Otto Merker's tanks TK-3/TKS Trials of the TKS and C2P in the USSR 37 mm anti-tank gun SR tanks Type 95 Renault NC Renault D1 Renault R35 Renault D2 Renault R40 PzI Ausf. B PzI Ausf. C PzII Ausf. a though b PzIII Ausf. A PzIII Ausf. B through D PzIV Ausf. A through C Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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