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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

Honestly i feel like im grading with a curve and if any of these awesome NJPW matches were in WWE people would be talking about it like it was the greatest of all time

I gotta be honest, I judge most NJPW matches based on the quality of other NJPW matches - Okada continually delivers incredible matches but he's got the enormous obstacle of his own match against Tanahashi right at the start of the year to contend with. That was legit one of the best matches I have ever seen in my life.

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Hoss Corncave
Feb 13, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

I gotta be honest, I judge most NJPW matches based on the quality of other NJPW matches - Okada continually delivers incredible matches but he's got the enormous obstacle of his own match against Tanahashi right at the start of the year to contend with. That was legit one of the best matches I have ever seen in my life.

That's pretty much the problem I have with any match I see this year. When you have a match that has several years of history, past frustrations of the younger champion, and what will be considered as one of the greatest rivalries in the history of wrestling thrown together and ending in a match done so well and with the ending that we've waited all those years to see, it's hard to put anything else over it.

Plus it followed Nakamura vs AJ, which followed Shibata vs Ishii, both of which were spectacular matches that would pretty much be match of the night on any other day.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Hoss Corncave posted:

...and with the ending that we've waited all those years to see

Well, Okada WINNING the belt would have been way better than him retaining it. :colbert:

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..

SpiritOfSanDimas posted:

From King of Pro Wrestling

HM: Omega v Goto
MOTYC: Okada v Marufuji

Honestly i feel like im grading with a curve and if any of these awesome NJPW matches were in WWE people would be talking about it like it was the greatest of all time

eh

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

HM: Katsuyori Shibata vs Kyle O'Reilly
MOTYC: Hirooki Goto vs Kenny Omega
MOTYC: Naomichi Marufuji vs Kazuchika Okada

first njpw show i've watched in a while, based on the buzz. fantastic show.

SpiritOfSanDimas
Oct 31, 2012


Even discounting the better storytelling of matches and whatnot, people lose their mind when the WWE has a piledriver (i.e. punk vs cena) or an apron spot and Okada v Marufuji had a piledriver on the apron. I think if WWE guys had that match at a PPV with even a moderate build a lot of people would be saying it was the best ever

SpiritOfSanDimas fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Oct 11, 2016

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

well i mean the whole thing that made that piledriver so memorable is that everyone knows it's a banned move and punk and cena milked it for all it was worth

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
It's a different audience for the different matches. The average NJPW fan is not the average WWE fan, and a match catering to the former might not strike a chord with the latter. I'm much closer to an average WWE fan, and have watched NJPW shows and not given two shits about matches billed as instant classics.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Cardboard Box posted:

HM: Katsuyori Shibata vs Kyle O'Reilly
MOTYC: Hirooki Goto vs Kenny Omega
MOTYC: Naomichi Marufuji vs Kazuchika Okada

first njpw show i've watched in a while, based on the buzz. fantastic show.

Nth

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


ThePariah posted:

NJPW King of Pro Wrestling - 10/10/2016

HM: Katsuyori Shibata vs Kyle O'Reilly
HM: Hirooki Goto vs Kenny Omega
MOTYC: Naomichi Marufuji vs Kazuchika Okada

Nth

I considered going MOTY for O'Reilly and Shibata but this year has been too insane for that.

Okada/Marufuji is on my short list for my favorite match this year though. Even better than their G1 encounter and the interpromotional vibe made it feel like a big deal.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I DON'T LIKE IT

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012


You seem upset buddy what happened?

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

NienNunb posted:

You seem upset buddy what happened?

Raccoon in the yard stalking my bunnies. Had to take them inside.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

RacistGuidingLight posted:

Raccoon in the yard stalking my bunnies. Had to take them inside.

That sounds like a stressful time, but bunnies are real great pets. I have two and they're very cute. They love kale and head scratches.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Mine dislike being picked up, but do not resist it, and follow me about at all times.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

ParanoidInc
Apr 27, 2013

You dun scuffed me for the last time you no-good Zayn boy!
Fun Shoe
It's a shame Okada/Tanahashi will be forgotten by history since the match of the decade happened this same year

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

:yeah:

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Shocking that you'd not be impressed by yet another great Marufuji match.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

ParanoidInc posted:

It's a shame Okada/Tanahashi will be forgotten by history since the match of the decade happened this same year

ikr? rebel vs shelly martinez was incredible

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..

MassRafTer posted:

Shocking that you'd not be impressed by yet another great Marufuji match.

not talking about that match specifically since i didn't see it, just think WWE's in-ring quality gets underrated and NJPW's overrated by people that watch both

i will say Marufuji has been far better in NJPW than he has been for years in NOAH, since he actually visibly gives a poo poo. most of his kicks have even connected!

Spermgod fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Oct 12, 2016

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

Cardboard Box posted:

HM: Katsuyori Shibata vs Kyle O'Reilly
MOTYC: Hirooki Goto vs Kenny Omega
MOTYC: Naomichi Marufuji vs Kazuchika Okada

first njpw show i've watched in a while, based on the buzz. fantastic show.

Yes

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

Featuring Special Guest Referee Dean Ambrose.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

Yeah

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth 10/11 WWE Smackdown

Nth

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
MOTYC: TNA vs Multiple Lawsuits

Germansimp
May 28, 2013



sticklefifer posted:

MOTYC: TNA vs Multiple Lawsuits

Nah, that match's had way too much no-selling from TNA.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

Mmhmm.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

Yep

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

Yeah

exploding mummy posted:

MOTYC: Shane Taylor/Keith Lee vs War Machine ROH ASE TV tapings

This match is on this week's TV, fyi

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Ostentatious posted:

MOTYC: AJ Styles vs. James Ellsworth II 10/18 WWE Smackdown

Hell yes. :getin:

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



exploding mummy posted:

MOTYC: Shane Taylor/Keith Lee vs War Machine ROH ASE TV tapings

Ill second this. I haven't enjoyed a match that much and been so into one in a while.

Durk Hendrunkqs
Dec 12, 2006

It's useless.

exploding mummy posted:

MOTYC: Shane Taylor/Keith Lee vs War Machine ROH ASE TV tapings

Heck yeah this match ruled. 3rd.

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

exploding mummy posted:

MOTYC: Shane Taylor/Keith Lee vs War Machine ROH ASE TV tapings

Nth, god drat that ring was shaking like crazy

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

HM: Dalton Castle vs. Hangman Page ROH Road to Final Battle Ft. Lauderdale 10/21/16

Pretty sure they said this was being taped for VOD.

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Durk Hendrunkqs
Dec 12, 2006

It's useless.
MOTYC: NJPW Road to Power Struggle 10/21 The Young Bucks vs ACH & Ishimori.
Felt it was a step above an HM. God drat that match ruled.

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