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ate all the Oreos posted:Like I've said it before in this thread but that tweet is really the perfect example of how edgelords seem to be rebelling against this really weird, skewed subjective image of what they think the rest of the world considers "normal." Viewing it with that lens I guess I could see how you could come to the conclusion that "the hippies main goal was to have long hair because society hated long hair!" I seriously, sincerely think this is what happens when you're the kind of kid who would have ended up building at least a *bare* minimum of accidental social skills through table top gaming 20 or 30 years ago, but had the misfortune of spending your prime socializing years in a post-MMORPG world. That isn't just a really weird, skewed view. It's a shut-in's view.
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Space Poodle posted:I seriously, sincerely think this is what happens when you're the kind of kid who would have ended up building at least a *bare* minimum of accidental social skills through table top gaming 20 or 30 years ago, but had the misfortune of spending your prime socializing years in a post-MMORPG world. That isn't just a really weird, skewed view. It's a shut-in's view. these people are nerds raised in homes with 4 tvs blasting Fox all day and their main peer group was 4chan. Living that kind of life turns people into these creatures we are discussing. Smart but not too smart, arrogant in the way only nerds can be, marinated in right wing sauce since childhood and suffering from a severe case of irony poisoning.
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uber_stoat posted:these people are nerds raised in homes with 4 tvs blasting Fox all day and their main peer group was 4chan. Living that kind of life turns people into these creatures we are discussing. Smart but not too smart, arrogant in the way only nerds can be, marinated in right wing sauce since childhood and suffering from a severe case of irony poisoning. The only at right person I know personally was raised primarily by his mom who is super progressive and has had a number of non white boyfriends (the warning sign was how mad he seemed about that last fact). I'd bet a good number of these people came from progressive households.
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uber_stoat posted:these people are nerds raised in homes with 4 tvs blasting Fox all day and their main peer group was 4chan. Living that kind of life turns people into these creatures we are discussing. Smart but not too smart, arrogant in the way only nerds can be, marinated in right wing sauce since childhood and suffering from a severe case of irony poisoning. Yeah no people who grew up in households like that with mentalities like this rebel against it and become, i don't know, bernie bros? It's NO YOU SHUT THE gently caress UP DAD so it generates opposites.
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The best jokes in this were a) the band names and b) that there's just that fuckin Creed song on there
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ate all the Oreos posted:Yeah no people who grew up in households like that with mentalities like this rebel against it and become, i don't know, bernie bros? It's NO YOU SHUT THE gently caress UP DAD so it generates opposites.
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So Amazon recommended me a wonderful book titled "How Bad Writing Destroyed the World: Ayn Rand and the Literary Origins of the Financial Crisis" by Adam Weiner Needless to say I bought it straight away. Not only does it have a pretty exhaustive take on why Ayn Rand is wrong, including all her influences also being wrong, it's also literary criticism and takes time to point out how lovely her writing is. Very much recommended
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With a title like that and a reasonable price, sold. I needed something to read at work anyway.
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There's an excerpt here http://lithub.com/how-bad-writing-destroyed-the-world/
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Rush Limbo posted:There's an excerpt here quote:Weiner's critique of Chernashevsky seems to exist in a vacuum. It's almost as if serfdom and serfdom's odious successor (did you think the aristocracy would free serfs without demanding the serfs pay them back with interest?) were not driving forces behind the violent motives of the revolutionaries. It's almost as if a dynasty whose go-to plan for discouraging dissent involved organizing pograms, whose chauvinist policies in Poland and other nations boldly walked the line of genocide and simple forced assimilation, would have no natural enemies if it wasn't for some delusional egoist writing a book about an imagined utopia...
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I feel like this review is being quoted in order to mock it, and the tone of it sort of invites it, but it has a point. Weiner sounds a little like Jim when he talks about What Is to Be Done getting past the censor, as if the tsars should have cracked down on dissent even harder than they did.
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uber_stoat posted:these people are nerds raised in homes with 4 tvs blasting Fox all day and their main peer group was 4chan. Living that kind of life turns people into these creatures we are discussing. Smart but not too smart, arrogant in the way only nerds can be, marinated in right wing sauce since childhood and suffering from a severe case of irony poisoning. Never thought about it like that, but the Alt Right an organic result of being raised by conservative parents and chan culture.
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Silver2195 posted:I feel like this review is being quoted in order to mock it, and the tone of it sort of invites it, but it has a point. Weiner sounds a little like Jim when he talks about What Is to Be Done getting past the censor, as if the tsars should have cracked down on dissent even harder than they did. Should have, nah, but I think it is surprising and that's most of what I got from it m
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In which MMS is under the impression only immigrants are born physically deformed https://mister-mean-spirited.blogspot.com/2016/10/what-gently caress-happened-to-country.html
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The Vosgian Beast posted:In which MMS is under the impression only immigrants are born physically deformed https://mister-mean-spirited.blogspot.com/2016/10/what-gently caress-happened-to-country.html I, son of immigrants, believe other immigrants are ruining the country!  .I'm also kind of stunned that this guy has lived into middle age and still thinks like a 13 year old.
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Are there any more of those lovely D&D cards from the OP?
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Are there any more of those lovely D&D cards from the OP? There might be, but the guy who created them realizes they were embarrassing and deleted the original post so they're harder to find now Here are a few that aren't in the OP   
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That's the stuff. Thanks, TVB.
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Fututor Magnus posted:https://twitter.com/paxdickinson/status/787037261481316352 I realize Pax is tilting at the windmill that is Gawker, but credit when credit is due to a stopped clock: There is no way in which Ken Bone's reddit career is newsworthy
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Monocled Falcon posted:Never thought about it like that, but the Alt Right an organic result of being raised by conservative parents and chan culture. It's not really, there's a whole shitload of factors. uber_stoat just loves to condense complicated social dynamics down to extremely simplistic truisms.
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I Killed GBS posted:It's not really, there's a whole shitload of factors. uber_stoat just loves to condense complicated social dynamics down to extremely simplistic truisms. Speak on that! Unpack it for us. Welcome to SA by the way. *I just want him to enlighten me. Darkly. uber_stoat has a new favorite as of 20:15 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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uber_stoat posted:Speak on that! Unpack it for us. Slap fiiiiiggghhhhttttt
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I think it's fair to say that some alt-righters are conservative-raised, and some (or most) are from chan cultures. I don't think it'd be a really good idea to apply any background to all of them, because humanity is fascinatingly good at coming up with the same stupid ideas for an amazing variety of reasons. (I also do think that the "gently caress YOU, DAD!" idea of alt-righters having a more liberal family background seems more likely, but I wouldn't expect it to apply to all of these guys, either.)
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Puppy Time posted:I think it's fair to say that some alt-righters are conservative-raised, and some (or most) are from chan cultures. I don't think it'd be a really good idea to apply any background to all of them, because humanity is fascinatingly good at coming up with the same stupid ideas for an amazing variety of reasons. That statement is based on knowing some of these people, southern boys raised in conservative families, steeped in a stew of welfare queens and knock out games, and then they get on the internet and radicalize when they find an echo chamber. True that there are some bad rear end rebels who strayed from the teachings of their lib parents after contracting irony poisoning, but that isn't the whole of it.
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Perhaps the truth is....... somewhere in the middle. Really though, I think it's hard to ascribe a single source to this stuff. People don't just come into this sort of shittery out of nowhere but there's lots of ways to get there.
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uber_stoat posted:True that there are some bad rear end rebels who strayed from the teachings of their lib parents after contracting irony poisoning, but that isn't the whole of it. That was the entire point of my post, dude.
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I do think a chunk of them were probably dorky, literal-minded kids who were raised in really progressive bubbles, so all they were exposed to was anti-racism and anti-sexism, and then never grew up enough or branched out enough to see the larger patterns those ideas were fighting against, so they're holding onto a myopic resentment against the attitudes of their parents and teachers that to their uninformed eyes just looked like one-sided boasts of superiority. But most of them were probably born into it, yeah.
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Frogisis posted:I do think a chunk of them were probably dorky, literal-minded kids who were raised in really progressive bubbles, so all they were exposed to was anti-racism and anti-sexism, and then never grew up enough or branched out enough to see the larger patterns those ideas were fighting against, so they're holding onto a myopic resentment against the attitudes of their parents and teachers that to their uninformed eyes just looked like one-sided boasts of superiority. But most of them were probably born into it, yeah. that's a lot of words to say they're privileged dicks with a really narrow set of experiences and a teenage view of authority
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Pomp posted:that's a lot of words to say they're privileged dicks with a really narrow set of experiences and a teenage view of authority I don't think anyone has any evidence here, and I don't think the discussion is very interesting.
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uber_stoat posted:That statement is based on knowing some of these people, southern boys raised in conservative families, steeped in a stew of welfare queens and knock out games, and then they get on the internet and radicalize when they find an echo chamber. True that there are some bad rear end rebels who strayed from the teachings of their lib parents after contracting irony poisoning, but that isn't the whole of it. See that's real interesting to me because I grew up and currently live in The South-lite (Florida) and all the alt-right people (or hell far-right people around my age) I know are from northern states or Europe, where the incredibly bad things conservatism does when it has a hold of a state for a long time aren't plainly apparent. I got a friend from Georgia who described it similarly up there too. (Not saying your experience isn't entirely valid or even more accurate than mine, just that I find it interesting is all  )
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People from ultra conservative families just because normal conservatives and racists if they don't realize how dumb that culture is. It takes a particular type of privilege and extreme sensitivity to hurt feelings to make an alt-right person.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-donald-j-trump.html A little heavier than supporting some fringe programmer's passion project, he's down with racial demagoguery and sexual assault to the tune of $1.25M.
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Peel posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-donald-j-trump.html quote:He also said he was “proud to be gay,” the first time a Republican convention speaker had made such a statement. fffffffuuuuuuckkkkkkkk yyyyyyyyooooooooouuuuuuuuuu
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Jonas Albrecht posted:$1.25 mil this late in the game is a stupid waste of money. That's the Thiel family motto
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