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Count Bleck posted:I'm not fond of the mixed messages this thread is sending me. It'll own bones for 2 more weeks then it'll start to fester, this is how standard works
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It's not GWx mirrors as far as the eye can see so this is automatically the best standard we've had in two years.
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Oct 15, 2016 23:00
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So I bombed bigly at Regionals with the Aetherworks deck... Won round 1 and then went win game 1 with an eldrazi on T4 and lose both SB games 3 matches in a row vs GW Humans, Bant Midrange and UW Spirits... Idk how much of that was me drawing badly or the deck not being super resilient....
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It's not GWx mirrors as far as the eye can see so this is automatically the best standard we've had in two years. It's been 2 weeks, the format's young
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It's not GWx mirrors as far as the eye can see so this is automatically the best standard we've had in two years. Now it involves a deck with islands so it's actually poo poo.
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Oct 15, 2016 23:10
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MiddleEastBeast posted:What list are you messing around with so far? https://deckstats.net/decks/62792/589075-panharmonicon-work-in-progress Angel of Invention has been my best add, Skysovereign is really good to use vs decks with planeswalkers. I am very open to suggestions, I will most likely be messing with this list every day until I figure it out.
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Oct 15, 2016 23:36
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It's not GWx mirrors as far as the eye can see so this is automatically the best standard we've had in two years. 9 months ago the best deck was Rally, which was basically a BUG deck splashing white but okay
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Oct 15, 2016 23:37
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Elyv posted:9 months ago the best deck was Rally, which was basically a BUG deck splashing white but okay People literally cannot remember anything but Siege Rhino during its entire standard tenure, even when RDW and Atarka Red were doing so fantastically.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:People literally cannot remember anything but Siege Rhino during its entire standard tenure, even when RDW and Atarka Red were doing so fantastically. Maybe cause the Rhino decks did the best against those decks?
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Oct 15, 2016 23:54
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People couldn't remember any thing but siege rhino during standard even when it wasn't the best. Siege Rhino was always good, but often not best. It was honestly a real solid standard for variety.
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Oct 15, 2016 23:56
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Alaan posted:People couldn't remember any thing but siege rhino during standard even when it wasn't the best. Siege Rhino was always good, but often not best. It was honestly a real solid standard for variety. KTK standard until BFZ was released was just great. There's a reason I stopped caring about standard at that point.
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Oct 16, 2016 00:36
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Alaan posted:People couldn't remember any thing but siege rhino during standard even when it wasn't the best. Siege Rhino was always good, but often not best. It was honestly a real solid standard for variety. The Origins Superstandard had a Mill deck when a Grand Prix. It had alot of viable decks, (viable in the sense that you could win an FNM with them) but it kinda felt like it was Midrange value land versus Mono Red aggro alot of the time.
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Oct 16, 2016 00:38
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Also that Ensoul Artifact deck that was allegedly overpowered.
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Oct 16, 2016 00:40
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Also that Ensoul Artifact deck that was allegedly overpowered. That deck was weird. It dominated the pro tour but I didn't see it hardly at all locally.
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mcmagic posted:That deck was weird. It dominated the pro tour but I didn't see it hardly at all locally. The PT is a weird and heavily-metagamed environment and often the best deck for that tournament falls off the radar afterwards. No one played much of the Eldrazi variants that actually won PT Oath of the Gatewatch after the PT, for instance, and Collected Company was way less overbearing at the last PT than it was for the rest of the format. It's one of the reasons I'll be interested to see how well the combo-y decks like Aetherworks Marvel and the Pummeler beatdown decks can adapt going forward.
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Attorney at Funk posted:The PT is a weird and heavily-metagamed environment and often the best deck for that tournament falls off the radar afterwards. No one played much of the Eldrazi variants that actually won PT Oath of the Gatewatch after the PT, for instance, and Collected Company was way less overbearing at the last PT than it was for the rest of the format. That isn't true. I played played the UR Eldrazi list from the pro tour and won a whole lot with it. Same for a number of friends of time. I don't think I played against the artifact deck from origins once.... The GW tokens deck from Rubin's PT win was all over the place too.
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Oct 16, 2016 01:06
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Attorney at Funk posted:The PT is a weird and heavily-metagamed environment and often the best deck for that tournament falls off the radar afterwards. No one played much of the Eldrazi variants that actually won PT Oath of the Gatewatch after the PT, for instance, and Collected Company was way less overbearing at the last PT than it was for the rest of the format. Saffron Olive wrote an article recently that doesn't really support your point: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/do-week-one-results-actually-matter Basically, week 1 SCG tournaments don't mean much, but the top 8 of pro tours are strongly indicative of what will be good in standard.
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Oct 16, 2016 01:19
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mcmagic posted:That isn't true. I played played the UR Eldrazi list from the pro tour and won a whole lot with it. Same for a number of friends of time. I don't think I played against the artifact deck from origins once.... The GW tokens deck from Rubin's PT win was all over the place too. I remember the Bant Eldrazi decks outnumbering U/R pretty quick, and the black and colorless versions basically vanished after the PT.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I remember the Bant Eldrazi decks outnumbering U/R pretty quick, and the black and colorless versions basically vanished after the PT. Bant didn't really become popular until after the banning. The colorless deck was just not as good as the UR one so it's not surprising that it wasn't played.
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Oct 16, 2016 01:22
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mcmagic posted:Bant didn't really become popular until after the banning. The colorless deck was just not as good as the UR one so it's not surprising that it wasn't played. Are you talking about modern?
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Oct 16, 2016 01:23
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ShaneB posted:Are you talking about modern? Yeah
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mcmagic posted:Bant didn't really become popular until after the banning. The colorless deck was just not as good as the UR one so it's not surprising that it wasn't played. Looking at the 3 Modern GPs where Eldrazi dominated after the Pro Tour, UW or RG were the builds. Banning Eye made green look better to continue ramping. If Eye was still around UW would probably be better with the Mimic/Endless one package.
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TwistedNails posted:https://deckstats.net/decks/62792/589075-panharmonicon-work-in-progress How do you find Eerie Interlude? It was one of the first cards I cut, I almost never wanted to draw it, and when I did it was only good if I was already fairly far ahead already. Seemed almost the epitome of a win-more in this deck -- if I have enough creatures out to make it good, I was probably already winning thanks to the first time they entered the battlefield.
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GoutPatrol posted:Looking at the 3 Modern GPs where Eldrazi dominated after the Pro Tour, UW or RG were the builds. Banning Eye made green look better to continue ramping. If Eye was still around UW would probably be better with the Mimic/Endless one package. Yeah UW ended up being good vs UR but there was about a month in between the PT and those GP's if I remember correctly. And these decks were all using the same shell as the PT decks.
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Oct 16, 2016 02:38
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Okay, who went to regionals with ali and todd?
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Oct 16, 2016 02:46
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UR Spells snatches victory from the jaws of defeat yet again.
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Willeh posted:Shota casually destroyed with his 3 gearhulks That's great to hear. I'm a huge shota fan.
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Oct 16, 2016 03:17
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Toshimo posted:That's great to hear. Nobody wants to know what porn you look at.
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Oct 16, 2016 03:25
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MiddleEastBeast posted:How do you find Eerie Interlude? It was one of the first cards I cut, I almost never wanted to draw it, and when I did it was only good if I was already fairly far ahead already. Seemed almost the epitome of a win-more in this deck -- if I have enough creatures out to make it good, I was probably already winning thanks to the first time they entered the battlefield. I've used it early when I didn't draw dual lands to get more energy for my Aether Hub and Servant of the Conduit's by bouncing the Servants. I think I'm just going to keep 1 in the MB for good, I really haven't needed it in the late game so far but it could come in handy for the energy or killing creatures with noxious.
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Sickening posted:Okay, who went to regionals with ali and todd? I had a long effort post with video proof of Ali cheating in various ways. So I believe it sight unseen. The most scummy had to be when he told his opponent he couldn't play a land because hey man I only have 1 in play!, when Ali deliberately didnt make a land drop on his first turn so he could throw something in his yard. And his opponent didnt argue because it was a feature match, and he was an unknown and Ali wasn't.
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Ceremonious Rejection seems very good in this format. I'm enjoying its splash in the RWb vehicles deck.
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Shota just won a game by Negating his own Painful Truths to Awake his Horror. He had one cad left in his library.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Shota just won a game by Negating his own Painful Truths to Awake his Horror. He had one cad left in his library. I strongly suspect there was an ulamog hit in there from the other side because otherwise I dunno how he got so close to decking shota is cool and also good
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Oct 16, 2016 03:52
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anglachel posted:The most scummy had to be when he told his opponent he couldn't play a land because hey man I only have 1 in play!, when Ali deliberately didnt make a land drop on his first turn so he could throw something in his yard. And his opponent didnt argue because it was a feature match, and he was an unknown and Ali wasn't. This is the sort of gamesmanship that should be shunned out of the competitive community. It sounds like Todd agrees, so good for him. The only way to get this stuff out of the community is for people to step up and say "hey that's not cool".
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mcmagic posted:Bant didn't really become popular until after the banning. The colorless deck was just not as good as the UR one so it's not surprising that it wasn't played. None of this is true. The colorless one was much better against most of the modern meta at the PT. The problem was the modern meta pretty quickly changed from lots of degenerate goldfish decks to All Eldrazi All The Time, where turn 1 Chalice for 1 was worthless. That's why the UR deck was able to steamroll the colorless deck 3 times in a row to win. Also UW pretty quickly became the most popular Eldrazi deck after the PT, along with Bant and that terrible RG deck. Colorless disappeared completely and UR became much less common.
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so, who had "Contingency Plan is way more popular at the top tables of the PT than Chandra" in the pool because I sure didn't
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