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Ein Sexmonster posted:Ah, here's the person who can answer the question "What kind of idiot would do this?". For all we know the person doing the burning could have been the victim of actual racism or some poo poo at which point I don't think its fair for people on the internet judge with no knowledge or background the morality or idiocy of the act. In some ways that speaks to how crazy this election is in that a reasonable number of Donald Trump supporters are outing themselves as crazy racists that do want to deport or kill brown people just for being born or stepping foot on their promised land.
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pgroce posted:We tried this once and it worked out about like you'd expect. (In fact, the ban is still in effect. How's that working out?)
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:He did better than just play liberal all day on the internet. Yes he gave Trump and his supporters ammunition to promote their worldview of rampant violence and political persecution. Good job guy. 
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Hey I was just reading that and laughing. Its a pretty big booklet for voting and one of the cooler things the Secretary of State does, it seems like not all states mail out a guide like that? Yeah, I've always been happy with WA state's voting process. Plenty of info provided and a mail in ballot. I wish all states did that, going somewhere in person on a Tuesday seems nuts.
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As a practical matter, the Kellogg–Briand Pact did not live up to its aim of ending war, and in this sense it made no immediate contribution to international peace and proved to be ineffective in the years to come. Moreover, the pact erased the legal distinction between war and peace because the signatories, having renounced the use of war, began to wage wars without declaring them as in the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1931, the Italian invasion of Abyssinia in 1935, the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939, the German and Soviet Union invasions of Poland.[10] Nevertheless, the pact is an important multilateral treaty because, in addition to binding the particular nations that signed it, it has also served as one of the legal bases establishing the international norms that the threat[11] or use of military force in contravention of international law, as well as the territorial acquisitions resulting from it,[12] are unlawful.
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FactsAreUseless posted:This is fascinating. I love this kind of stuff. quote:Moreover, the pact erased the legal distinction between war and peace because the signatories, having renounced the use of war, began to wage wars without declaring them as in the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1931, the Italian invasion of Abyssinia in 1935, the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939, the German and Soviet Union invasions of Poland.[10]
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Lightning Knight posted:Pretend I linked the backwards B or the "BLM thugs tagged a church with the whitest tag you've ever seen" stories here. False flag stuff has happened in the history of the world but like 99% of stuff people claim is false flag basically never is because that stuff happens and it's gonna be someone just regular mad at trump like someone who either hates his policies or something like an anti abortion protestor that is made he is ruining america because he'll get the wrong supreme court guy.
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Yeah, but it also stops countries from just saying "We're invading because we want this land to be part of our country," which is interesting.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:False flag stuff has happened in the history of the world but like 99% of stuff people claim is false flag basically never is because that stuff happens and it's gonna be someone just regular mad at trump like someone who either hates his policies or something like an anti abortion protestor that is made he is ruining america because he'll get the wrong supreme court guy. Or insurance fraud or something else.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:He did better than just play liberal all day on the internet. If anything this will help Trump. Doorknob Slobber posted:For all we know the person doing the burning could have been the victim of actual racism or some poo poo at which point I don't think its fair for people on the internet judge with no knowledge or background the morality or idiocy of the act. I could empathize with a victim lashing out but I can still say committing acts of terror that could at best help elect Trump is a morally bad thing.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yeah, but it also stops countries from just saying "We're invading because we want this land to be part of our country," which is interesting. Well before Putin anyway.
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RuanGacho posted:Well before Putin anyway.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:He did better than just play liberal all day on the internet. The most likely outcome here is that literally nothing happens because nobody notices or cares that a local field office was set on fire. The second most likely outcome is that this was counterproductive as hell, because it gives Trump supporters something to point to when they talk about how unfairly they're being treated. Seriously, nobody is treating Trump with kid gloves. Directly attacking him and his supporters legitimizes them.
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Boston Globe article on how much Trump supporters want to, uh, "deal with" Hillaryquote:“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:He did better than just play liberal all day on the internet.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I was browsing the official voters' guide I got in the mail and thought the official profiles of Hillary and Trump were worth reviewing. This is an amazing catch. --- Ted Cruz explains why conservatives will need a new party if Hillary wins. quote:Republicans like Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas. (F, 42%) already have a game plan in place if and when Hillary is elected: make Hillary’s presidency a great success. In other words, nothing too different from the GOP’s modus operandi during the Obama presidency.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:I see you can't differentiate the left from fascism. To be clear- Anyone who disagrees with you is against the cause? Anyone who doesn't want violence is supporting your enemy? The fascists surrounding Trump present an existential threat to our republic but are easily defeated? The privileged centrists, an elite group?, are the enemies holding back progress and allowing fascists to prosper? Taking action, any action, against the enemy is a noble endeavor? Can we skip to the end where you smugly kick back and reveal yourself as the puppetmaster who made the stupid lefties all agree to fascism because they dislike Trump?
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Trabisnikof posted:If anything this will help Trump. It'll certainly direct attention away from those three men who were arrested for wanting to bomb that apartment complex and were willing to go so far as to shoot one year olds.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:False flag stuff has happened in the history of the world but like 99% of stuff people claim is false flag basically never is because that stuff happens and it's gonna be someone just regular mad at trump like someone who either hates his policies or something like an anti abortion protestor that is made he is ruining america because he'll get the wrong supreme court guy. Honestly I don't think it's an intentional false flag. Like I said, my bet is accidental fire that they're passing off as a terrorist attack. If and when the investigation establishes it was actually firebombing then so be it. I'm just saying, they have a history of that kind of poo poo and I don't trust them.
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Lightning Knight posted:Honestly I don't think it's an intentional false flag. Like I said, my bet is accidental fire that they're passing off as a terrorist attack.
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Spaced God posted:Boston Globe article on how much Trump supporters want to, uh, "deal with" Hillary  Dear Lord these people are scary.
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straight up brolic posted:Joe Flacco is not elite 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Donkwich posted:Yes he gave Trump and his supporters ammunition to promote their worldview of rampant violence and political persecution. Good job guy. Is this before or after Trump tries to and tie the firebombing to Hillary. The other possibility is my favorite: Violence being viewed as a kind of political consequence of his increasingly awful rhetoric, which is how he should be precisely viewed in every sense.
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FactsAreUseless posted:They have a history of pretending to be firebombed? No, but the American right wing has a history of fabricating attacks on themselves to garner sympathy and establish a "we're the real victims" narrative.
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 OK so now this will feed into their cheating/rigging narrative. I'm seriously hoping this is another backwards B incident.
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 I mean not really. Anyone getting their right to vote compromised is a bad thing. The fact that it happened against someone you don't like doesn't make it any better than Pence's shenanigans from yesterday. e: also this Donkwich posted:OK so now this will feed into their cheating/rigging narrative.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Is this before or after Trump tries to and tie the firebombing to Hillary. OH he will certainly do this and because he is "Unshackled" I bet he will start actively encouraging his followers to do the same kinds of things, But make sure it's "legal"
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Kind of hating people that are cheering on republican votes being burned up in a fire while attacking Donald Trump on calling the vote rigged. Do you want democracy or not?
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FactsAreUseless posted:They have a history of pretending to be firebombed? I believe he's referring to the backwards-B incident and the thing in the midterms where the only person caught in the act of voter fraud was, surprise!, a low-level Republican candidate. Firebombing is a bit of an escalation though.  I don't buy that this was political. "Get out of town!!" doesn't sound like someone who's pissed enough to firebomb a place. It's too forced. My personal thoughts are option C (dude used political cover to settle a personal grudge) and I am a professional internet criminal profiler so clearly my opinion counts for something.
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 Is it normal for a party to collect completed Absentee ballots in NC? I'm pretty sure that would be illegal in some states.
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 what the gently caress is wrong with you no it isn't anytime someone gets robbed of a vote it's a travesty do you even have human emotions
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Spaced God posted:I mean not really. Anyone getting their right to vote compromised is a bad thing. The fact that it happened against someone you don't like doesn't make it any better than Pence's shenanigans from yesterday.  do not go lowest common denominator. We should be nowhere near trumps level.Chokes McGee posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you no it isn't This goon gets it.
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Chokes McGee posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you no it isn't
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Kind of hating people that are cheering on republican votes being burned up in a fire while attacking Donald Trump on calling the vote rigged. Do you want democracy or not? I want to not have the global military hegemony be ruled by a fascist tbh. That said, if this was actually a politically motivated fire bombing it's not really a good thing, if only because it's not going to do anything other than help Trump anyway and thus was pointlessly vindictive and dangerous. I'd be more worried about it if some had died.
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Lightning Knight posted:I want to not have the global military hegemony be ruled by a fascist tbh.
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