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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I thought it was a little strange they made Meiji restoration a civ ability when it's obviously tied to a specific leader I don't see how, the Restoration kicked off Japan's modernization in a big way; Meiji himself may have been a driver for that, but Japan was going to have to modernize regardless if it wanted to maintain its sovereignty. Around the same period big countries like China and India were subjected to imperialism from abroad (China was forcibly made to cater to European trade deals, India was under Britain's thumb), and just about nobody in the Japanese government wanted similar poo poo to happen to Japan.
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I'm not even really talking about root causes or whatever, just that the Meiji restoration is famously associated with Meiji to the point it shares his name, which makes it sound more like a leader ability than a civ ability to me.
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Darkrenown posted:Have Firaxis said anything about a release day patch to correct the problems streams have been showing? I would assume they are watching the streams and fixing poo poo, but have they actually said anything about it? That's not really how Firaxis works. I think their first patch for Beyond Earth came in December, after an October release.
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Oct 16, 2016 19:35
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Captain Oblivious posted:Tbh everybody loves Saladin. The English were hella tsundere for Saladin. Saladin was a complete badass and famous for his sense of honour. He was hugely respected by even his worst enemies.
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Omnicarus posted:Erich Ludendorf (Germany) That's not how Agendas work, they are constraints on the behavior of the AI leader and have no gameplay effects. Abu Bakr as-Saddiq (Arabia) Leader Bonus: Sahaba: When you found your Religion, gain one free copy of each land Military unit you are able to build near your capital, and for the rest of your game your units get +10 combat strength when attacking cities. Abu Bakr was one of the first converts to Islam, and one of the sahaba, or personal followers of Mohammed. Within fifty years of Mohammed's revelations, the Islamic wars of conquest had not just united the Arabian peninsula, but conquered Sasanian Persia and significant portions of the Eastern Roman Empire. Leader Agenda: Rightly Guided: Likes being given cities in trade or peace negotiations, and will not accept peace unless he can keep all cities he has conquered. Dislikes civilizations near him that do not follow the religion he has founded, unless they have previously ceded land to him. Abu Bakr, as the first of the four Rightly Guided Caliphs, repudiated the tribal leaders who claimed that they had sworn personal fealty to Mohammed himself and were under no compulsion to follow his successors. The momentum of these Wars of Apostasy carried into the earliest of the conquests that would leave the Arabian Empire as one of the largest in history. Taizu of Song (China) Leader Bonus: Imperial Examinations: Districts come with an extra slot for a Citizen, and Citizens produce extra yields. (+1 of the primary type produced, or +2 if gold) Taizu, founder of the Song Dynasty, expanded the system of examinations that staffed high-level officials and bureaucrats throughout China. Leader Agenda: Life Of Man Is Short: Dislikes civilizations that declare wars other than Reconquest, Protectorate, or Liberation. Likes civilizations with high Culture or Science output who have had disliked wars declared on them. After reunifying China and ending the war-torn Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms era, Taizu convinced the generals of the armies to retire in peace, reserving much of their military power for common defense, and ushered in an era of freedom of thought in which the arts and sciences flourished.
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Oct 16, 2016 19:44
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Randarkman posted:Yeah not what I was saying.
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Oct 16, 2016 20:02
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Is the Steam Controller any good? I do not have a PC controller but I do have a few games that would play better with a controller and you can get it in one of the Civ 6 bundles. Does anyone have opinions on it?
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Powercrazy posted:Unrestricted leaders was a really fun option for Civ4, and I hope it comes back in 6. It'd be really neat, though some combinations might not work well. Such as, say, Mvemba leading Arabia. I'm still in favor of the idea, mind. Just, it's definitely something they'd have to test for weirdness.
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Oct 16, 2016 20:20
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I'm all about weirdness in Civ. But ultimately that kind of interaction would be determined by how the game implemented the attributes of both the leader and the civ. Hopefully they can be made to work with each other, even if it's in an Overpowered manner.
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Aerdan posted:I don't see how, the Restoration kicked off Japan's modernization in a big way; Meiji himself may have been a driver for that, but Japan was going to have to modernize regardless if it wanted to maintain its sovereignty. Around the same period big countries like China and India were subjected to imperialism from abroad (China was forcibly made to cater to European trade deals, India was under Britain's thumb), and just about nobody in the Japanese government wanted similar poo poo to happen to Japan. Ehhh almost certainly not. Most evidence suggests he was about as genuinely influential as most other Japanese Emperors: Not Very.
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Darkrenown posted:Have Firaxis said anything about a release day patch to correct the problems streams have been showing? I would assume they are watching the streams and fixing poo poo, but have they actually said anything about it? What problems have shown up on streams?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Ehhh almost certainly not. Most evidence suggests he was about as genuinely influential as most other Japanese Emperors: Not Very. Thank you for the correction, since it just reinforced the point I was fumbling at making.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I'm not even really talking about root causes or whatever, just that the Meiji restoration is famously associated with Meiji to the point it shares his name, which makes it sound more like a leader ability than a civ ability to me. Captain Oblivious posted:Ehhh almost certainly not. Most evidence suggests he was about as genuinely influential as most other Japanese Emperors: Not Very. The traditional Japanese calendar measures years by the reigns of the various emperors (ie: Meiji 13, etc). It's called the Meiji Restoration mostly because it was a revolution that happened in the Meiji era. The aim of the revolution was supposedly to take power away from the corrupt Shogunate and restore it to the Emperor, but ultimate he only served a symbolic purpose anyway. Honestly not a very interesting leader.
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Vox Nihili posted:What problems have shown up on streams? The AI values certain trades really, really weirdly; you can buy relics from them for almost nothing, joint wars are apparently easy to get as well, etc. That's the only one I know of, at least.
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Okay, I didn't know about #9 and I think it's pretty interesting as it's relatively similar to how it works in EU4, although you seem to keep the city you captured even if it's not in the peace deal, it just won't grow.
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boo, can I not get the Amazon Prime preorder discount if I have a Mac instead of a PC?
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Being able to capture and use settlers sounds hilariously gamebreaking against the AI. I guess it depends on how well they actually guard them.
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I heard building naval units no longer requires a city to be located next to the ocean; confirm deny? Do all naval units now require a shipyward/harbor(?) district, or does possessing one just circumvent the existing requirement (the city being built next to the ocean) for building a naval unit?
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Away all Goats posted:Being able to capture and use settlers sounds hilariously gamebreaking against the AI. I guess it depends on how well they actually guard them. IIRC that's the way it worked previous to 5. The warmonger penalties are the counterbalance.
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:I heard building naval units no longer requires a city to be located next to the ocean; confirm deny? Do all naval units now require a shipyward/harbor(?) district, or does possessing one just circumvent the existing requirement (the city being built next to the ocean) for building a naval unit? Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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Oct 16, 2016 21:53
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So, strategic resources now work like luxury resources used to (you only need one copy), while luxury resources now work like strategic ones (you need one copy per four cities)
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theres a will theres moe posted:IIRC that's the way it worked previous to 5. The warmonger penalties are the counterbalance. This is not correct, in Civ III a captured settler became two workers (when captured by another Civ), or just one worker when captured in Civ IV. At least that's what my Civ III manual and some quick googling to confirm tell me. Barbarians didn't even "capture" settlers in IV, they just killed them. I think it worked the same in III but I don't recall. Should note that the "warmonger penalty" doesn't apply when the barbarians capture a settler from the AI in VI and you take it from them. To my knowledge... you could never "capture" settlers from other civilizations and use them for yourself, at least in the main series games. In I/II settlers were just killed in combat like any other unit. Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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Defenestration posted:boo, can I not get the Amazon Prime preorder discount if I have a Mac instead of a PC?
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No city resistance and instant razing. Praise Beach.
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Does anyone know... If you conquer a city with a district that you have a unique replacement for or vice/versa what happens? Does your legacy government bonus stack with your active bonus as you build up points before changing government? Does your pantheon automatically spread to all of your cities?
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brakeless posted:No city resistance and instant razing. Praise Beach. It was enormous bullshit in Civ 5 that cities were in "resistance" mode for one turn per population point, regardless of game speed. It meant resistance was pathetically unimportant on say, Marathon, but cripplingly awful on Quick. I hope they've actually balanced stuff like that this time round. splifyphus posted:A list that saves me having to watch a presumably-obnoxious video Thanks for this. I hate video guides.
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Roland Jones posted:The AI values certain trades really, really weirdly; you can buy relics from them for almost nothing, joint wars are apparently easy to get as well, etc. That's the only one I know of, at least. Trade is a big one. In the Arumba/Filthy Robot Stream you can also see the AI over-valuing luxuries to a crazy degree where they trade a lux for a lux plus 200+ gold and ~25 GPT. Also been some annoying things shown like the AI spamming the same offers every other turn when rejected, and cycling to the next unit midway through a unit's actions for seemingly no reason. There were some smaller things too, and the UI seems poor in several areas, although not really a release patch thing.
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Magil Zeal posted:This is not correct, in Civ III a captured settler became two workers (when captured by another Civ), or just one worker when captured in Civ IV. At least that's what my Civ III manual and some quick googling to confirm tell me. Huh! Welp, my bad. Sorry for the misinformation. E: I wonder if the diplomatic grudge still exists for not returning a captured civilian. In V didn't not-returning a dude guarantee you'd go to war eventually? theres a will theres moe fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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Glidergun posted:Taizu of Song (China) Not bad, but it would be nice to see someone representing modern China in the 2nd spot. One that isn't Mao. Sun Yat-Sen, founder of the Republic of China, the end of the imperial era and thus a natural counterpoint to Qin Shi Huang. Sure, his revolution didn't quite pan out the way he wanted and he never hold complete power over the entire country, but he gets in under Gandhi rules, alright? His unique ability could be named after the 3 Principles of the People and be related to social policy or some such.
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Gort posted:That's not really how Firaxis works. I think their first patch for Beyond Earth came in December, after an October release. They do tend to take their time. But, of course, the build they handed out to streamers is not final.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Just buy the PC version. It's the exact same thing once you put the code into steam. Thanks - also I don't see anywhere that this is a digital download. Is Amazon going to send me a disc in the mail like it's 1999 or something? And if I pick free two-day delivery will it arrive Friday or will I have to wait until Monday?
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Defenestration posted:Thanks - also I don't see anywhere that this is a digital download. Is Amazon going to send me a disc in the mail like it's 1999 or something? And if I pick free two-day delivery will it arrive Friday or will I have to wait until Monday? While I can't answer the "are they mailing me a disc" thing, for places they DO send discs for pre-orders (i.e. my ps4 games) they have release day delivery
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Airfoil posted:They do tend to take their time. The good thing is that their patches are pretty robust. I remember their first patch form G&K adding the grand temple. So I think they look at user data for the first month and then make a patch the second month after release.
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Azhais posted:While I can't answer the "are they mailing me a disc" thing, for places they DO send discs for pre-orders (i.e. my ps4 games) they have release day delivery Looks like someone asked the question further down the page and it is a disc. Kind of silly but the release day delivery is what matters, thanks
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Defenestration posted:Thanks - also I don't see anywhere that this is a digital download. Is Amazon going to send me a disc in the mail like it's 1999 or something? And if I pick free two-day delivery will it arrive Friday or will I have to wait until Monday? Have you noticed the size of games lately? Blu-rays aren't exactly common in PCs, unlike consoles. Unless they want to release like 4-8 disc sets like its 2003, it's either going to be an emailed code or a box that's empty save for a piece of paper with the code on it and maybe a cd with a steam installer on it. (I highly doubt amazon is going to actually ship a physical thing when its so much cheaper to just go digital.) e: Huh, color me surprised. Why the hell would amazon spend the money to ship a piece of paper?? Watermelon Daiquiri fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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So what are the odds this'll get a demo, so I can find out whether this will run on my comp? I don't have the dedicated RAM for this game, but I've got an integrated card, but it's an a previous generation of i3 so who knows how much processing it can spare?? They had a demo of Civ 5. 
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Ragnar34 posted:So what are the odds this'll get a demo, so I can find out whether this will run on my comp? I don't have the dedicated RAM for this game, but I've got an integrated card, but it's an a previous generation of i3 so who knows how much processing it can spare?? There's always the steam 2-hour refund
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