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my mom couldnt use her ipad for like 3 weeks because when you install ios 10 theres a screen to add your credit card to apple pay, she doesnt want to and didnt realize you can skip that screen youve ruined her duolinguo stats tim
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ah but it says right on their webpage: "The Baby Vida Smart Monitor does not cure, prevent, or diagnose anything. It’s only intended use is to provide additional information to caregivers." and by right on their webpage I mean halfway down the FAQ in a question about SIDS or at the bottom of the "how it works" page.
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*ability to relay accurate information is considered a secondary, non critical function, for entertainment purposes only
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a stylized graphic of a smiling infant beams at you from your iphone screen as your baby turns deep purple several feet away in their crib
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Shifty Pony posted:except that the medical community is starting to do actual studies on wearables and activity tracking and the results are generally "this is a waste of time and money". even when the devices are sufficiently accurate at measuring things to be relied upon for diagnosis or monitoring (which is pretty rare) it turns out that data dumping on people doesn't actually change their behavior and may make it worse (oh my Fitbit says I got my 10k steps, that means I can totally have some ice cream!) healthkit/researchkit seems aimed at integrating with those medtronic-style wearables though, not a fitbit
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infernal machines posted:a stylized graphic of a smiling infant beams at you from your iphone screen as your baby turns deep purple several feet away in their crib I was Lazy; It was a Black Night, I didn't reach my Child In Time and now I have a Strange Kind Of Woman
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r u ready to WALK posted:Just build yourself a Trash Pro with the most recent intel processor and gpu
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Shifty Pony posted:I expect the trend of doctors recommending and health insurance companies paying for fitbits to end pretty soon. the typical american diabetic is someone who has been told by the media and by their own doctors for multiple decades that they need to get more exercise, watch their weight, eat less sugar and more salad, and its had no effect on their behavior. giving them a flashing gizmo that says "yo, eat less sugar, here is a number to five decimal places to tell you how much less sugar you should eat) is just adding another piece of professional medical advice for them to ignore theres a reason all their promotional literature showed juvenile and early onset diabetics using their devices to help live normal lives too bad, the technology was very interesting and worked very well. an actual triumph of engineering that solves a real world problem and makes a positive difference in peoples lives. turns out they just as well might have spent their time and resources developing an uber-but-for-waffles app or something
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FMguru posted:an uber-but-for-waffles app
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lol i turned on zoom to blow up some text for a second and nothing happened, except that all my touches started registering about a centimeter too high managed to turn zoom off and now swiping the notifications away magically works 
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poty posted:my mom couldnt use her ipad for like 3 weeks because when you install ios 10 theres a screen to add your credit card to apple pay, she doesnt want to and didnt realize you can skip that screen lmao my troubleshooting with my mom is just "What's the screen say?" "Nothing." "Read all the words on the screen out loud." [...] "Okay got it. are you coming home fo" *click*
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uncurable mlady posted:healthkit/researchkit seems aimed at integrating with those medtronic-style wearables though, not a fitbit medtronic, makes of the new true black pulse oximeter, only available at fit4less.com FMguru posted:my previous job was at a company that made blood sugar monitors for diabetics and the overwhelming fear in the c-suite was that insurance companies would realize that giving people an $800 high tech blood sugar meter had about as much effect on medical outcomes as giving them a pamphlet titled "insulin, diabetes, and you" this is sadly real and i know a person that both worries constantly about their diabetes and weight while also simultaneously eating poorly and giving into simple vices that affect those issues 
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so, they're either going after the lucrative geriatric tech-enthusiast market, or looking to link with a bunch of real, fda-approved tools where the output is a single number. i'm still scratching my head on why apple, google and samsung are so gung ho on the health stuff - not that its bad, but i just don't see the money at the end of the rainbow. with google i can kinda see the reason, if they want that health data to mine, but apple doesn't seem to want to touch the data at all... for those in real diagnostics - glucose specifically-- this book was amazing to read: http://www.mendosa.com/The%20Pursuit%20of%20Noninvsive%20Glucose,%20Fourth%20Edition.pdf
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GameCube posted:lol i turned on zoom to blow up some text for a second and nothing happened, except that all my touches started registering about a centimeter too high zoom to blow up works great with samsung, crappled again
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Oct 17, 2016 01:24
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no, Tim! bad!
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i still have that lovely u2 album on my phone. it's now 2 naked dudes hugging instead of a picture of a record sleave
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Oct 17, 2016 02:00
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how did this gay porno end up on my phone? must be apple goddammit!
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Shifty Pony posted:except that the medical community is starting to do actual studies on wearables and activity tracking and the results are generally "this is a waste of time and money". even when the devices are sufficiently accurate at measuring things to be relied upon for diagnosis or monitoring (which is pretty rare) it turns out that data dumping on people doesn't actually change their behavior and may make it worse (oh my Fitbit says I got my 10k steps, that means I can totally have some ice cream!) yeah I read an article the other day with an old guy who had a heart attack and was prescribed a shirt with a built in defibrillator that fired wherever his heart rate went above 200. he had another heart attack and it saved his life in the front yard AND called 911 before his wife was able to. but it is also a 20k purpose built device basically for people on the waiting list for a new heart to wear for that 3-6 months. so it is not a Fitbit and you don't want a Fitbit in charge of your defibrillator.
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I believe insurance companies may still pay for fitbits if they think it significantly increases their understanding of their risk pool. it may end up that it doesn't, though. car insurers still pay you to install a black box and the logic is pretty similar.
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why wouldn't apple add features like health/researchkit? it's not like there's a whole lot of innovation left in phones. making a convenient API for med schools or w/e to plug into increases the chances that they use that rather than hacking their own thing together, and maybe that can then drive sales. in the unlikely event some medtech thing becomes essential, google has to play catchup by providing API parity in android so they aren't at a competitive disadvantage.
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uncurable mlady posted:why wouldn't apple add features like health/researchkit? it's not like there's a whole lot of innovation left in phones. making a convenient API for med schools or w/e to plug into increases the chances that they use that rather than hacking their own thing together, and maybe that can then drive sales. in the unlikely event some medtech thing becomes essential, google has to play catchup by providing API parity in android so they aren't at a competitive disadvantage. the researchkit apps seem to be a good way to get into supporting medical research with a common device platform instead of buying syncing hardware or software to provide to custom device users and users already know how to run an app or keep their phone near them all day vs using some usb plug on a device to sync results each morning
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Oct 17, 2016 02:46
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THC posted:no, Tim! bad! is Tiny Bono still in iOS 10?
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hold me closer tiny bono 😌
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oh drat it's been gone for over a year http://www.atu2blog.com/apple-dropped-the-bono-icon-in-itunes/50434/
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Perhaps I’m wrong or just grasping at straws here but….not us too? If Bono wanted to give away the new album on I tunes and was forced to scrub the floor with his nose for it? Just what do they mean? Aren’t they against me too? It wasn’t wrong it was giving. Try something new America? Stop the anti American b.s like giving your kids cell phones and other such money wasting moral less value less behavior. Music is art. Don’t like something? Freedom to say so but? Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. That was bad this drop the silhouette thing is worse or? Do we fans really want Apples opinion?
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Agile Vector posted:the researchkit apps seem to be a good way to get into supporting medical research with a common device platform instead of buying syncing hardware or software to provide to custom device users and users already know how to run an app or keep their phone near them all day vs using some usb plug on a device to sync results each morning Perhaps, but what incentive do the manufacturers have to support it? you can't do any more than just collect or display data because any app that does more runs the risk of falling into the FDA's regulatory domain as a mobile medical application. I don't see the big players jumping at the opportunity to easily extract the data from their systems without some massive improvement in functionality that they can use to sell to customers. a lot of them see the historical readings and tracking their (lovely) software stores and analyzes as a way to lock in customers/researchers who increasingly realize that the actual hardware is largely interchangeable.
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uncurable mlady posted:why wouldn't apple add features like health/researchkit? it's not like there's a whole lot of innovation left in phones. making a convenient API for med schools or w/e to plug into increases the chances that they use that rather than hacking their own thing together, and maybe that can then drive sales. in the unlikely event some medtech thing becomes essential, google has to play catchup by providing API parity in android so they aren't at a competitive disadvantage. yeah, i fear this is the case. but it means that they don't really care about doing it right, and support will be lackluster and ultimately disappear. also- are we doomed to a bunch of half-assed innovation to drive vendor lock and marginal sales in perpetuity - uh - i think i answered my own question.
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C.H.O.M.E posted:yeah I read an article the other day with an old guy who had a heart attack and was prescribed a shirt with a built in defibrillator that fired wherever his heart rate went above 200. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU_i0ZzIV5U
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that's super cool here is my other favorite video like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBh2LxTW0s0
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I would speculate that we will see apple push to classify its future wearables as some type of medical device, with better heart rate and other medical sensors. they will start with enhancements to the current activity tracking, but will also provide a platform for medical apps that can relay on these sensors for monitoring and treatment.
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FMguru posted:my previous job was at a company that made blood sugar monitors for diabetics and the overwhelming fear in the c-suite was that insurance companies would realize that giving people an $800 high tech blood sugar meter had about as much effect on medical outcomes as giving them a pamphlet titled "insulin, diabetes, and you" if i had a wrist watch that told me my blood sugar my control would be so amazing. ignorance is bliss in diabetes, coz if I test high I can't bring myself to eat more no matter how much I want it. but if I dont test, even though I "know" its likely ill be high as gently caress, i styill eat
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Scott Forstall posted:lmao my troubleshooting with my mom is just you should visit your mother, op
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C.H.O.M.E posted:yeah I read an article the other day with an old guy who had a heart attack and was prescribed a shirt with a built in defibrillator that fired wherever his heart rate went above 200. maybe if an old man has a heart attack he should just die and let the young people enjoy life with low insurance rates
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The Management posted:I would speculate that we will see apple push to classify its future wearables as some type of medical device, with better heart rate and other medical sensors. they will start with enhancements to the current activity tracking, but will also provide a platform for medical apps that can relay on these sensors for monitoring and treatment. lol @ the concept of apple willingly assuming a shitload of liability. can't wait to see people literally murdered by ios upgrades
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GameCube posted:maybe if an old man has a heart attack he should just die and let the young people enjoy life with low insurance rates lol as if any boomer thinks they aren't entitled to millions of dollars of care for a few more days of life
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the sliders in the new control center, unlike the sliders anywhere else in ios, require you to press and hold on them for a moment before sliding them, because otherwise you'll swipe to the next page of the control center. brilliant design guys. extremely good. apple is definitely NOT dying
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rip the apple car, dead before it was even alive
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GameCube posted:the sliders in the new control center, unlike the sliders anywhere else in ios, require you to press and hold on them for a moment before sliding them, because otherwise you'll swipe to the next page of the control center. brilliant design guys. extremely good. apple is definitely NOT dying not for me, sorry about your poor hand-eye coordination
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