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Look at it this way: If you fail to disclose something and it is discovered, you will never hold a clearance. Even if you're going for a secret clearance, they're going to interview people about you. They'll ask for two references from those people. They'll ask for two more references from those people. So on and so on. KetTarma fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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I'm going to be totally honest so I'm not sweating during future clearance investigations. I just hope no one notices my full-back weed leaf tattoo E: don't actually have a tattoo sweg420blazeit fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 01:29
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sweg420blazeit posted:I'm going to be totally honest so I'm not sweating during future clearance investigations. I just hope no one notices my full-back weed leaf tattoo I'm not sure if you're trolling/joking but you have to fill out a form documenting all of your tattoos. You might want to get that one covered up.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:32
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KetTarma posted:I'm not sure if you're trolling/joking but you have to fill out a form documenting all of your tattoos. You might want to get that one covered up. yeah I was just joking. Sorry, I should have added an /s tag or something. My username isn't doing me any favors lol
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Oct 17, 2016 01:36
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You can always not disclose it until you get to boot camp. During inprocessing they don't want to screw up anyones paperwork because its a super hassle, so what they do is have a thing called 'the moment of truth' where you can then fully disclose it and they'll give you a pass on it. Then later when they do a deeper background check you can just tell the interviewer you disclosed it during the moment of truth and they have to let that poo poo go, no worries.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:38
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Blackchamber posted:You can always not disclose it until you get to boot camp. During inprocessing they don't want to screw up anyones paperwork because its a super hassle, so what they do is have a thing called 'the moment of truth' where you can then full disclose it and they'll give you a pass on it. Then later when they do a deeper background check you can just tell the interviewer you disclosed it during the moment of truth and they have to let that poo poo go, no worries. Well I'm going the officer route, so I don't know if that's any different. I think I'd much rather be up front about it. I don't want to give the U.S. Government an explicit reason to gently caress my poo poo up.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:40
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sweg420blazeit posted:Well I'm going the officer route, so I don't know if that's any different. I think I'd much rather be up front about it. I don't want to give the U.S. Government an explicit reason to gently caress my poo poo up. Don't worry that just happens naturally.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:45
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Hey Blunts McNuggenstein, I think I gave you the wrong email so if you sent me any CEC questions, well those aren't getting an answer. Have you considered just getting a real job, though?
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Oct 17, 2016 01:48
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maffew buildings posted:Hey Blunts McNuggenstein, I think I gave you the wrong email so if you sent me any CEC questions, well those aren't getting an answer. Have you considered just getting a real job, though? Don't you talk him out of this. I realized this guy is the one who wants to be an NFO, and he already seems like perfect material.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:51
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maffew buildings posted:Hey Blunts McNuggenstein, I think I gave you the wrong email so if you sent me any CEC questions, well those aren't getting an answer. Have you considered just getting a real job, though? LOL I did send you an e-mail, I've been wondering if you got it. I have considered it, I haven't abandoned all hope yet. I'm waiting to hear back on one interview, so we'll see where that goes. Hopefully I make it to the second round. Part of the appeal to the Navy, for me at least, is the leadership experience and increased self-discipline. I think it'd give me some sense of direction too (at least more than what I have right now). There are a lot of things I can get out of the Navy that I don't think I can get anywhere in the civilian world.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:56
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sweg420blazeit posted:ok cool, thanks. I definitely don't have any arrests, I just experimented a little in 9th grade. Do not hide anything. Honestly, they don't give a gently caress as long as you disclose it all. When/If they go digging and find stuff you didn't disclose then you are hosed.
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Oct 17, 2016 02:09
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sweg420blazeit posted:Part of the appeal to the Navy, for me at least, is the leadership experience and increased self-discipline. I think it'd give me some sense of direction too (at least more than what I have right now). gently caress. Not another one. The navy won't fix your life, just make it more miserable.
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Oct 17, 2016 02:10
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sweg420blazeit posted:yeah I was just joking. Sorry, I should have added an /s tag or something. My username isn't doing me any favors lol It should say something that you having a full back weed tattoo doesn't raise an eyebrow in the Navy thread beyond the paperwork requirements. People in the military do crazy things. Off the top of my head, I've had people under me: -Pop for cocaine after doing lines off of a stripper's rear end. Told the captain that he thought it was the only chance he'd ever get to do something like that. Dude was a nerdy shut-in. -Robbery -Throw armload of classified material into river prompting divers to recover it -After dumping armload of blahblah, jumping in and swimming around until picked up by security boat -Show up drunk at age 19 to their own NJP (like courts martial) after driving in. -Give a 10 minute long fire-and-brimstone sermon on how gays will burn in hell to a gay E-7 as an E-4 while acting as duty driver. -Have to be put on "ordered showers" with an E-7 or above signing off witnessing that they were bathing. There was a full checklist. -Hop out of a running rental car at an airport and abandon it because they were running late -Numerous UA (AWOL) -I think 3 different people found living in their car in the base parking lot -Several weed drug test failures -A good number of sad pandas 100% of these people were nukes.
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Oct 17, 2016 02:11
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sweg420blazeit posted:LOL I did send you an e-mail, I've been wondering if you got it. I have considered it, I haven't abandoned all hope yet. I'm waiting to hear back on one interview, so we'll see where that goes. Hopefully I make it to the second round. Reforward it, mbb0001@gmail.com and I will get you some answers.
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Null Integer posted:gently caress. Not another one. The navy won't fix your life, just make it more miserable. That seems like a bit of a blanket statement. This forum seems a bit more gloomy on the Navy then elsewhere on the Internet. No judgement, just an observation. KetTarma posted:It should say something that you having a full back weed tattoo doesn't raise an eyebrow in the Navy thread beyond the paperwork requirements. People in the military do crazy things. wow ok well i feel better about my situation then.
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Blackchamber posted:Don't you talk him out of this. I realized this guy is the one who wants to be an NFO, and he already seems like perfect material. Awww did a big bad NFO touch you down there?
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KetTarma posted:100% of these people were nukes. I was like 'wtf? thats a whole lot of concentrated stupid for just one squadron'... then it all makes sense.
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maffew buildings posted:Reforward it, mbb0001@gmail.com and I will get you some answers. Forwarded.
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vulturesrow posted:Awww did a big bad NFO touch you down there? 
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Has anyone had to entertain a NUPOC VIP trip before? I'm wondering how honest people are gonna be, and how much we get to see.
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Oct 17, 2016 02:32
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All of the people you put down on your security clearance form will get a visit from the FBI. Make sure they are not questionable people.
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vulturesrow posted:Awww did a big bad NFO touch you down there? Nothing that fun. I worked with a bunch and as an controller I learned quickly that people dressed as pilots who never went to flight school and don't understand airspace or flight rules are the worst. Fixed wing pilots > Helo pilots > NFOs.
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I've been arrested once for being drunk at a Brewers game, had two disorderly conducts (one for being drunk in public, one for running through a rival high school's banner at "the big game") and had a myriad of misdemeanors through high school. I also admitted to smoking pot. I got my SSBI and clearance in less than 3 months and the investigator thought my running through a banner story was funny. You'll be fine. Also, I bet the Mason's Ops Intel briefs are at least interesting these days. So there's that.
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KetTarma posted:It should say something that you having a full back weed tattoo doesn't raise an eyebrow in the Navy thread beyond the paperwork requirements. People in the military do crazy things. I will testify of these things he has seen now that I am on this last command I have seen several of these, I knew the guy who robbed a CVS for pills,. that was a loving thing that made the news, and yeah these things are all true.
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KetTarma posted:It should say something that you having a full back weed tattoo doesn't raise an eyebrow in the Navy thread beyond the paperwork requirements. People in the military do crazy things. We had a girl pop for cocaine and almost stayed in. CO gave her a pass, CoC said whatever, finally Big Navy found out and said 'oh hell no' and booted her. Also, my Chief has a weed tattoo on the back of his neck. Edit: I am a nuke, in case no one knew. Hobolicious fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Blackchamber posted:Nothing that fun. I worked with a bunch and as an controller I learned quickly that people dressed as pilots who never went to flight school and don't understand airspace or flight rules are the worst. Actually NFOs do go to flight school and get extensive training on flight rules and airspace as part of their syllabus. We also go to instrument ground school every year just like pilots. I'm sorry you had a bad experience but your sample size is clearly too small to make any judgments about an entire designator. I do know that the big wing NFOS (P3/P8/E3) don't get quite as much exposure to the flight rules and airspace stuff.
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sweg420blazeit posted:Has anyone had to entertain a NUPOC VIP trip before? I'm wondering how honest people are gonna be, and how much we get to see. If you don't see someone lose their poo poo and have a breakdown over emergent maintenance then you're not seeing the whole thing
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KetTarma posted:-Have to be put on "ordered showers" with an E-7 or above signing off witnessing that they were bathing. There was a full checklist. I've been a shower watch. Dirty girls are SO loving GROSS. I have physically dragged girls out of their racks because they stunk so bad I couldn't go to sleep. I've also had the word passed for me by name, and had CMC come and relieve me off of watch so I could go to berthing and break up fights or peel dirty pads off the wall. I had a young petty officer go to mast for creating a sophisticated reflector/director system out of her rack light to piss of the girl across from her at night. Because she snored. It was brilliant, really, but she was an ODD duck. She collected bugs, and we found a lot of dead ones (not preserved, just dead) during her health and comfort. I had a sailor offer me his stash of bestiality porn "in case I missed my husband." Yeah. He's not a German Shepherd, guy. Had a girl's (civilian) husband call because she kicked him out so her girlfriend could move in and he was homeless. She also never got him an ID and kept all of the BAH, making him pay rent. Guy on restriction shimmied down the mooring lines and went to the club. Twice.
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Did you get bigger rat guards?
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btw check out the anonymous confession thread its good poo poo.
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Mr. Nice! posted:btw check out the anonymous confession thread its good poo poo. Oh poo poo it's back? Link?
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LingcodKilla posted:Oh poo poo it's back? Link? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3794546&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#pti13
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Boon posted:Did you get bigger rat guards? Naah. They just kicked him out quicker.
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Null Integer posted:gently caress. Not another one. The navy won't fix your life, just make it more miserable. This is becoming slowly more evident for me every day. Doesn't matter than I'm an officer - the Navy finds a way. ded posted:All of the people you put down on your security clearance form will get a visit from an underpaid, overworked government contractor. As long as your contact is not literally in jail or is not a hillbilly obviously deeply involved in meth production you should be good. They're looking to establish a history, basically an accounting of your whereabouts. This filters out people who are blatantly and completely lying about their identity.
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Only dude I didn't see pass a clearance or even get allowed to apply was a friend that dropped acid every weekend of high school.
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Any MT's? I have the chance to go Reserve to Active for E4 from CTT to MT, and right now its not looking hot to get active orders. Sorta desperate(?) seeing how my next set of orders are only guaranteed for 6 months. Gotta pay the bills and support my family 
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squarerandom posted:Any MT's? I have the chance to go Reserve to Active for E4 from CTT to MT, and right now its not looking hot to get active orders. Sorta desperate(?) seeing how my next set of orders are only guaranteed for 6 months. Gotta pay the bills and support my family I served with very few MT's but the ones I did meet where the most miserable sad people that hated their existence to the core, it was the common theme. They had envy for the nukes, that isn't a good sign.
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Oh boy. Today was 365 Kickoff Day! "We have a great program. I think its a very rewarding program that provides a lot of benefits" followed by "Like every year, we need to focus on participation. As time goes on attendance drops. By the time Phase 2 happens, its around 1/3rd of the amount of people we had in the beginning. We need a focus on participation and motivation" Maybe, just maybe, if participation and motivation suck every loving year, your program is bad. I love this time of year so much =/
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sweg420blazeit posted:Part of the appeal to the Navy, for me at least, is the leadership experience and increased self-discipline. I think it'd give me some sense of direction too (at least more than what I have right now). There are a lot of things I can get out of the Navy that I don't think I can get anywhere in the civilian world. If you go the NFO route you won't even smell a Sailor until you've been in for like 5 years. Aviators get very little leadership exposure early on in their career because they're busy flying. Also, don't go the officer route expecting to divine some "sense of direction". As an officer you're expected to be the motherfucker laying down direction for your junior folks. The Navy doesn't exist for you to come "find yourself" [as an officer]. Especially not when you're expected to be leading junior folks who are doing exactly that. P.S. Don't loving lie on your SF86 (clearance application) or you'll never hold a government clearance.
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buttplug posted:If you go the NFO route you won't even smell a Sailor until you've been in for like 5 years. Aviators get very little leadership exposure early on in their career because they're busy flying. That's a bit of an exaggeration. You don't have any leadership responsibility for a year or two while going through flight school, but as soon as you get to an operational squadron you'll most likely get tossed into a DIVO role with sailors and a chief and everything, just like a real officer.
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