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Rated PG-34 posted:I thought that strike was just one day. Yeah I think you're right, either way, 2.5% or 1/40 of the worlds population went on strike, with ML help, and that's a big deal/cool as hell.
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Deimus posted:Yeah I think you're right, either way, 2.5% or 1/40 of the worlds population went on strike, with ML help, and that's a big deal/cool as hell. It was kinda neat that most of the major media outlets didn't cover it.
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Rated PG-34 posted:It was kinda neat that most of the major media outlets didn't cover it. Reuters, to their credit, ran a few pieces on it.
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Deimus posted:Yeah I think you're right, either way, 2.5% or 1/40 of the worlds population went on strike, with ML help, and that's a big deal/cool as hell. Quite a few anarchist organizations were also involved, as a lot of anarchists are against imprisonment.
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GalacticAcid posted:Reuters, to their credit, ran a few pieces on it. Now if only they would cover the prison strike... Concerning that, NYT ran a laughable editorial on why they haven't covered the prison strike: http://nyti.ms/2e4caai
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Arri posted:I understand the want to organize leftists into a single cohesive whole, but the last time anarchists teamed up with Leninists, the anarchists ended up dead or in gulags. because the last time anarchists teamed up with leninists, the anarchists couldn't restrain themselves from the stupid poo poo you said itt
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Having two historic strikes that receive media blackouts in one year might be a good sign, I guess.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Having two historic strikes that receive media blackouts in one year might be a good sign, I guess. the reason why isn't because it's communist it's cuz unless it's islamic terrorists nobody in the us gives a poo poo about india
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Typo posted:the reason why isn't because it's communist it's cuz unless it's islamic terrorists nobody in the us gives a poo poo about india Nah, the WSJ covered the prison strike at least
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Typo posted:the reason why isn't because it's communist it's cuz unless it's islamic terrorists nobody in the us gives a poo poo about india The prison strike wasn't in India.
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Hi fives all around WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC) today released the first-of-its-kind Annual Report on U.S. Attitudes towards Socialism, surveying Americans’ attitudes toward socialism, communism, and related issues. The Report, informed by polling conducted by internationally recognized research and data firm YouGov, will be released on the eve of a VOC-sponsored China Forum, discussing the challenges posed by the world’s largest remaining Communist regime. The study found a growing acceptance of socialist and Marxist viewpoints among a younger generation of Americans who did not grow up during the Cold War. When considered alongside the broad support among millennialis for Bernie Sanders and his ideals – the poll, for example, found more support for quotes of Sanders than Milton Friedman and the Bible – socialism has growing support in America. Fewer younger Americans, in turn, had a favorable view of capitalism and its tenets versus their older counterparts. The report also found a substantial gap in basic knowledge about communism and its history, with more glaring knowledge gaps especially among millennials. “One of the concerns the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation has had since its establishment is that an emerging generation of Americans have little understanding of the collectivist system and its dark history,” said Marion Smith, executive director of the organization. “Unfortunately, this Report, which we intend to release on an annual basis, confirms this worrisome impression.” E: thought I got em all, lol DOCTOR ZIMBARDO fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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lol what is "mon calamaris" a word filter for. eta: That's what I figured. \/\/\/ GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Hi fives all around  the dialectic is in motion
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I think a good "Hail Satan!" is in order.
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i wonder if they're just going to blame liberals for this, or maybe realize that growing up in a time where capitalism is very obviously failing and falling apart may have contributed
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One of their questions was "do you recognize that Stalin killed more people than Hitler" so I'm pretty sure they're just fascists
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reminder of how they calculate their death toll figures well we know one day in New Mexico State Penitentiary 33 people died out of 1136, and there's 2220300 people in american prison, so that must mean 64482 people are dying every day, and america is 87765 days old, which means 5659,262,730 people have died in george washington's gulags so far
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Kropoopkin, Barks, rudatron Any recommendations for Marxist thought, historical and contemporary? I'm reading Marx currently but also read a lot of contemporary Marxist thinkers like Ali, Chomsky, Varoufakis, etc. You all seem extremely knowledgeable on the topic.
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Hilario Baldness posted:Kropoopkin, Barks, rudatron you can click through here since nested quotes still confound the forums code Homework Explainer posted:this isn't the complete list (found here). i removed most of the non-essentials and some of the essentials, too. because sadly, we can't all be academics.
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next to the really really important stuff so you know what's a Top Pick from your old pal, the homework explainer
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my personal recommendations are "what is to be done" and "the conquest of bread". I think lenin was probably one of the best marxist writers, emphasis on the writer part. I find his books really easy to read and understand. "what is to be done" was released when lenin split from the social democrats, and is the first piece that he first describes what the vanguard is (i think). peter kropotkin is more of an anarchist, but I think conquest of bread is a really interesting book. I think it has a lot of relevance to todays situation, because he talks a lot about technological innovations and poverty. it's kind of heavy language tho. communist manifesto is probably the must read contemporary, it's probably worth checking out the abc's of solution that the jacobin published. I have it, it doesn't have much depth but it's a good overview. the weird tall binding thing they did is really bad tho. on that subject the jacobin is good reading, and I like the baffler too. Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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Well, what are you interested in? What's your big pull factor, I guess? There's a lot of literature out there, but not all of it is going to be interesting to you, or relevant. Lenin, Marx, Engels, etc and all the others were good writers, but they were products of their time, and were engaged with a different political scene. So, some of their remarks and beliefs are going to be about topics & conflicts specific to that time, and they're not going to be interesting to you. If you're looking for something a little 'timeless', I'll echo karl barks and say that the manifesto is a must read. Beyond that, it depends on what's compelling to you.
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Kropotkin's work is seminal in terms of laying out an idealistic vision for the left wing in general, and Mutual Aid probably influenced my ideology more than any other work of leftist literature. That's not really Marxist though. My favorite work of Marx's is the 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte. It's a short, straightforward book, that succinctly lays out a Marxist interpretation of history regarding the French reaction to the revolutions of 1848. It's an excellent analysis of bourgeois politics, and the way it achieves triumph by exploiting a mass politics which is ignorant of class consciousness. It's impossible not to draw parallels between Marx's analysis of the Revolution of 1848, and contemporary bourgeois politics. Richard D. Wolf is a good contemporary Marxist economist who writes from an American perspective. Capitalism Hits the Fan is a great analysis of the crisis of capitalism in the wake of the 2008 recession. He just came out with another book this year called Capitalism's Crisis Deepens, which is a collection of essays where he argues that the Great Recession has become a permanent fixture of economic reality in the United States. He also has some prescriptive analysis for left wing politics that I think are realistic in an American context, so it's not an all doom & gloom sort of book. Lenin's Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism is an analysis of the geopolitics of capital which is still relevant today. Lenin couldn't have predicted the post-colonial model of exploitation as it exists now, but his central focus on the use of finance capital to exploit the global periphery is still relevant a century later. Other than that, everything Homework Explainer recommends.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Richard D. Wolf is a good contemporary Marxist economist who writes from an American perspective. Capitalism Hits the Fan is a great analysis of the crisis of capitalism in the wake of the 2008 recession. Seconding this. Reading/watching Richard Wolff books/lectures was the revolutionary spark for me.
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It may be "reformist" or not "ideologically pure" but I really enjoyed Paul Mason's Postcapitalism. It's an interesting take on how technology and an information-based economy provide a different exit path from capitalism. https://www.amazon.com/Postcapitalism-Guide-Future-Paul-Mason/dp/0374235546
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these motherfuckers are SHOOK https://twitter.com/smithmarion/status/786720211231707137
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shoulda done a flash mob dance party about genocide imo
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so i looked up that organization (victims of communism) and it looks more anti china than anything else. it's literally the only thing they talk about on their twitter page: https://twitter.com/VOCommunism
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Karl Barks posted:shoulda done a flash mob dance party about genocide imo they could've had sky writers do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg
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Karl Barks posted:so i looked up that organization (victims of communism) and it looks more anti china than anything else. it's literally the only thing they talk about on their twitter page: https://twitter.com/VOCommunism they're a heritage foundation offshoot and getting govt money iirc
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I know this probably goes in the cold war thread but that reminds me: what exactly happened to make neoconservative think tanks start talking up war with China? Did Xi's reforms spook them?
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I live in DC and I'm pretty sure PSL won't be on the ballot. I know Gloria La Riva is the presidential candidate but who do I put down as the VP, Banks or Puryear? Don't want my vote to get thrown out for not reason so if I can't figure out how to vote for PSL I'll just throw Stein my vote.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Kropotkin's work is seminal in terms of laying out an idealistic vision for the left wing in general, and Mutual Aid probably influenced my ideology more than any other work of leftist literature. That's not really Marxist though. And you don't understand what profit is.
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asdf32 posted:And you don't understand what profit is. profit is like when a bunch of happy pirates walk on a beach and find buried doubloons Deimus fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Oct 21, 2016 |
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asdf32 posted:And you don't understand what profit is. lol the post in your title
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hypnorotic posted:I live in DC and I'm pretty sure PSL won't be on the ballot. I know Gloria La Riva is the presidential candidate but who do I put down as the VP, Banks or Puryear? Don't want my vote to get thrown out for not reason so if I can't figure out how to vote for PSL I'll just throw Stein my vote. Puryear. Banks is just on the West Coast, I think. Plus Puryear is a local guy and he's cool + wicked smart too. Let me plug his podcast, By Any Means Necessary, one more time.
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Karl Barks posted:so i looked up that organization (victims of communism) and it looks more anti china than anything else. it's literally the only thing they talk about on their twitter page: https://twitter.com/VOCommunism I love the "1 out of 5" people graphic that discreetly omits to mention that basically all of that figure come from PRC.
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asdf32 posted:And you don't understand what profit is. I let this go because the thread had already moved on by the time I came back, but your solution to the crisis of resource exhaustion was literally to create new matter.
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