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Crossposting from the awful mods thread because holy loving poo poo:SOMEONE on the nexus posted:I honestly think you're underestimating the trolling power of some individuals within the community. I think you seem to think that rating trolls are idiotic children who TyPe LiKe ThIs and rate mods 1 out of 5 with the comment "ThIs MoD iS poo poo LOLOLOL!!!111". Guess who posted this. NO CHEATING DON'T CHECK AND IF YOU ALREADY KNOW SHUT UP THIS IS SERIOUS
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Oct 14, 2016 12:53
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Is the latter part of their name a geographical term often used to describe open plains with certain unique characteristics
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Oct 14, 2016 13:13
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Nope!
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Oct 14, 2016 13:14
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Huh. Is it someone who's name starts with a file format generally used to mimic physical discs and which ends with the Norwegian word for cow?
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Oct 14, 2016 14:06
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Subjectively rating a mod lower and writing a perfectly good reason makes sense. You might as well just have a 1/5 and 5/5 and don't let people choose anything in between if you want your hugbox for mod authors. If someone gives a mod I made a 1/5 I don't care. If they give it 4/5 and attach a good reason, that's constructive criticism, and lets you make changes instead of blindly going 'THIS GUY IS TROLL LET'S SLAM HIM FOR GIVING MY VISION A LESS THAN PERFECT SCORE'
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Oct 14, 2016 14:08
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IAmTheRad posted:Subjectively rating a mod lower and writing a perfectly good reason makes sense. You might as well just have a 1/5 and 5/5 and don't let people choose anything in between if you want your hugbox for mod authors. And this is why the Nexus use Endorsements.
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Oct 14, 2016 14:10
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ThaumPenguin posted:Huh. I... don't think so...?
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Oct 14, 2016 14:12
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GunnerJ posted:I... don't think so...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image  I don't know enough about mod drama.
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Oct 14, 2016 14:17
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Oh, "isoku," nope. HINT: The person who posted that is not "a mod author" per se, but this was posted in the author-only forum. eta: Also their name is not anything like "isoku" I was just thrown off by the Norwegian cow thing.
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Oct 14, 2016 14:20
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GunnerJ posted:Oh, "isoku," nope. I felt like getting esoteric with my suggestions. But not a mod author? Hmm. Wait, is it Dark0ne? Or I guess "Slightly leet version of Satan"
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Oct 14, 2016 14:26
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ThaumPenguin posted:Wait, is it Dark0ne? DING DING DING Straight up the guy who runs Nexus. Explains a lot!
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Oct 14, 2016 14:31
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Well that says a lot, doesn't it.
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Oct 14, 2016 14:32
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Can't be Dark0ne. It's under twenty paragraphs.
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Oct 14, 2016 16:45
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I've never made a mod before but it seems like someone posting a 3/4 out of 5 with an explanation on how it could be better would be the best case scenario from an author's standpoint.
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Oct 14, 2016 19:13
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I've never made a mod before but it seems like someone posting a 3/4 out of 5 with an explanation on how it could be better would be the best case scenario from an author's standpoint. I talked about this in my Morrowind Modding Interview a few months ago, the sheer hatred of constructive feedback in the community and how harmful it is. I get that some people just want to put a fun mod out there, made in their spare time and released for free out of (charitably) love of the game and community, and they're just not interested in seeing someone take it apart and criticise them. I totally get that! However, they're totally flawed in their thinking and the hate for criticism is damaging to the quality of both mods and the community around them. I once commented on a Morrowind clothing mod that all the dialogue it added was in terrible English and full of spelling and grammar mistakes - politely, you know, saying the main part of the mod was the clothes and that was unaffected, just a mild criticism - and the modder responded with a tearful rant about how this is why they wanted to quit modding forever. That was like 10+ years ago and the culture has become an order of magnitude worse. Like, I'm insecure, I struggle not to take criticism personally. But I loving get over it. It's easy to see who's trolling and who's offering constructive feedback and the latter comes from a good place.
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Oct 14, 2016 19:34
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I think a lot of modders are either really young or are really sheltered. Accepting criticism is a skill you learn fairly quickly in the real world. If they took a step back and saw they're tearing up over a ten word comment they might also have the selfawareness to realize they're spending hundreds of hours of their life making skyrim mods and never come back.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:04
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They probably are also into the entire 'safe space' thing and had their parents always tell them they are the best and they can do no wrong. Will they rage if they manage to get a job if their boss criticizes their work? They need to realize the real world is harsh.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:16
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No way they're safe spacers They're all die hard conservatives who are sick of ~political correctness~ and would be the next
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Oct 14, 2016 22:51
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There are modders who have been around since Morrowind who have had the same attitude for over a decade.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:03
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Strategic Tea posted:No way they're safe spacers Just because someone claims to be opposed to the concept of a "safe space" doesn't mean they won't embrace the safe spaces that fit their views.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:11
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God, I hope this isn't leading to a long derail.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:12
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Sounds like the Stormcloaks.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:15
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I want and need to believe that at least one person responded to that post with some variation of "That's not trolling you moron, that's normal." Just... just one person.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:17
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The idea of "moderating" a 5-star rating system to "handle" "trolls" who give less than five stars because they didn't like something, just the very idea that someone needs to seriously consider how to deal with that situation, is actually in itself trolling the poo poo out of me. That is how 5-star rating systems work. The aggregate opinion will tend to be reflected in the rating even with some outliers. Especially for these rock star mods with millions of endorsements. What the gently caress. What are these mother fuckers going to do with beth.net's 5-star system is here to stay?
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Oct 14, 2016 23:21
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GunnerJ posted:I want and need to believe that at least one person responded to that post with some variation of "That's not trolling you moron, that's normal." Just... just one person. Hahahahahahaha. Not a one.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:28
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If any did, they were banned, blocked, and had their comment deleted.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:35
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GunnerJ posted:While hundreds of people would rate a mod 5 out of 5, you'd get trolls who would deliberately rate a mod 3 or 4 out of 5, and attach a well-written and cohesive reason for it. We're talking someone rating Wyrmstooth or Falskaar 3 or 4 out of 5 because they found that certain textures were of a lower quality than elsewhere in the mod (providing specific examples, so they did their homework), or because they found the voice acting was slightly subpar and so on and so forth. Basically, using subjective opinions as a reason to rate a mod lower. Written very well, but you knew it was trolling, or at least twattish, because no one expects an amateur mod to be professional quality and/or recorded in a sound studio in Hollywood. But how can you tell someone their subjective opinions are wrong? 
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Oct 16, 2016 16:10
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pubic void nullo posted:I got trolled by this for a minute. Good one. 3/5.
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Oct 16, 2016 16:16
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Hey, remember Gategate? Now Arthmoor brings us some ancient bullshit from ESO. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/79508/
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Oct 17, 2016 13:29
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Davoren posted:Hey, remember Gategate? Now Arthmoor brings us some ancient bullshit from ESO. The only problem I see is with the quality. The textures look kinda lovely in those screenshots.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:45
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Raygereio posted:This is in essence not a bad mod though? It's not a forced update of a bigger mod. And they're placed in remote areas as something neat for the player to stumble upon. Yeah it's pretty terrible. It stands out too much and the anti-aliasing is way sharp. For the OP: you may want to remove Localized Thief Jobs from the list. I was checking on it yesterday and there's been more complaints than compliments in its comments about it ruining players' games and making them unable to progress in the Thieves' Guild questline (personally I've never even been able to get it to work). Another user suggested an alternative: Taking Care of Business, which offers some alternate methods to also handling the quests in the Thieves Guild so you don't burn the bridges with certain NPCs while also allowing you to take all radiant jobs and dictate where you're going to do city jobs like LTJ. It's meant to work in tandem with Thieves Guild Requirements (though it has a version for those who don't use it). I just installed it myself so I can't say whether or not it's A+ but it seems to be a better option than LTJ.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:52
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Raygereio posted:This is in essence not a bad mod though? It's not a forced update of a bigger mod. And they're placed in remote areas as something neat for the player to stumble upon. I actually don't mind this, might even be cool if the fights at each one are set up to be challenging and fun, it just makes me laugh because the oblivion gate thing was my first time hearing about him, and now he's bringin' it back! Davoren fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 15:56
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That seems like an alright mod. If it had better textures and if I was more into ESO, I'd probably add it to my load order.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:05
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Davoren posted:I actually don't mind this, might even be cool if the fights at each one are set up to be challenging and fun, it just makes me laugh because the oblivion gate thing was my first time hearing about him. The problem is that people would tear down the structures. They don't want to wander around and suddenly be reminded of something that happened centuries ago. ESO took place in 2E 583. 2E 867 is when Tiber Septim said the 3rd era would begin. 3E 433 is when the Oblivion crisis began, and began the 4th era. 4E 201 is when Skyrim takes place. I am pretty sure that 1 millenium is enough for people to get rid of the Dolmens or to have the land itself swallow them up. I severely doubt people would see the Oblivion gates and go "yeah that should stay. We should be reminded of when the daedra almost destroyed Tamriel." The same would go with the Dolmens and people going "yeah that should stay. We should remember when Molag Bal tried to bring Tamriel into his plane of Oblivion."
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Oct 17, 2016 16:06
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Hey man, some of them have trees in the middle, Skyrim is a conservation area.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:18
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I'm just now getting back into Skyrim and wondering, how do you tell if you're using the Legendary Edition? Using my brother's old computer - Steam library just calls it The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim but opening Mod Organizer shows Dragonborn.esm and Dawnguard.esm I don't remember buying dlc, were these part of regular updates? Is that all you need for USLEEP to work? Jackard fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 19:19
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Jackard posted:I'm just now getting back into Skyrim and wondering, how do you tell if you're using the Legendary Edition? The Legendary Edition would have all the DLC, and you're missing Hearthfire.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:22
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Bought Hearthfire yesterday because one of the mods needed it Not really interested in the DLC, just wanting to know if these ESMs are enough for USLEEP and modern mods. Jackard fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 19:28
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As long as you have it activated you can ignore the Hearthfires content easily enough, yeah. Legendary edition is really just Skyrim + all DLC, so you'd have this in your list: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm Hearthfires.esm Dragonborn.esm if you've got that you are good to go, even if Steam does not say Legendary Edition. Psion fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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