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Phi230 posted:Pretty sure the appeal of LOTR wasn't just the large scale battles What is the appeal of the LOTR movies?
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Waffles Inc. posted:i agree that shakespeare in love was the best movie of 1998 plot abso-loving-lutely special effects abso-loving-lutely cinematography absolutely (SHOT-REVERSE SHOT IS BAD BTW) literally the only 2 people in the entire prequel series that give good acting are Ian Mcdiarmid and Ewan Mcgregor dont you talk poo poo about my gimli. John Rhys Davies farting has more charisma and characterization than the entire Phantom Menace. I mean, yeah, I agree Star Wars is better than LOTR but prequels are not star wars seeing as they contain nothing of what makes star wars STar Wars except in name only. No mysticism, no jungian hero archetypes, pulp adventure, 12 steps of a hero. There is only trade negotiations and SAND IS SANDY
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Oct 17, 2016 05:29
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Schwarzwald posted:What is the appeal of the LOTR movies? epic adventure story of good and evil, the battles are subsidiary same reason why the Original Trilogy is good.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:30
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Yeah, if I had to choose between rewatching all 3 Star Wars prequels or all 3 LOTR movies it'd be the prequels in a heartbeat. They're much more interesting, especially the production design. theyre also shorter
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Yeah, if I had to choose between rewatching all 3 Star Wars prequels or all 3 LOTR movies it'd be the prequels in a heartbeat. They're much more interesting, especially the production design. i really feel sad for you if you think the prequels are interesting. The world must be such a wondrous place
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Oct 17, 2016 05:31
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Phi230 posted:plot abso-loving-lutely You don't seem to have paid very much attention to the prequels.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:33
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Bongo Bill posted:You don't seem to have paid very much attention to the prequels. i did, and I really remember boring trade negotiations, and CGI that looked like cheap plastic
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Oct 17, 2016 05:41
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Phi230 posted:i did, and I really remember boring trade negotiations, and CGI that looked like cheap plastic We can't stop special effects from aging, but there are fewer lines about trade negotiations in The Phantom Menace than there are about farming in A New Hope.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:44
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The only thing people remember about Return of the King is being overly long and the "Scrubbing Bubble" ghosts.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:50
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Phi230 posted:Nobody remembers the prequels except in a way to either bash them, which is the true way, or to try and defend them or otherwise say "theyre not bad!!!!" So nobody remembers the prequels except for all the people who do remember them, and who either like them or don't like them. Astonishing insights from Tezzor this evening.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:51
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Phi230 posted:epic adventure story of good and evil, the battles are subsidiary Neither of those series are about good vs evil.
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Oct 17, 2016 05:59
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computer parts posted:The Hobbit films and the PT both take audience expectations into consideration. The difference is that the PT delivered a story that audiences definitely weren't expecting, while the Hobbit films made a story that audiences wanted and longed for. The Hobbit movies took a story the fans wanted, watered it down to fit into 3 movies, made the story worse, and had worse special effects than the PT.
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Oct 17, 2016 06:31
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looking at the behind the scenes stuff of The Hobbit you could tell Peter Jackson was just not into it like he was for LoTR
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Oct 17, 2016 07:01
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Freakazoid_ posted:Orcs are twisted elves. They have a soul and it is elven. When they die, their soul waits in the same room as all the other elves. Just because they are evil, doesn't rob them of having a soul. Is this serious? Droids in Star Wars are basically just the underclass of society. Both trilogies involve a human protagonist that becomes part droid and in VII Rey regards BB-8 as an equal. Real life even makes the "control ship" in the Phantom Menace seem more like the cloud server the droid army brains were run on, since they had ranks and gave each other orders, rather than some hive mind more common in sci-fi.
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Oct 17, 2016 09:02
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Cnut the Great posted:Agreed. I definitely still like and enjoy all the LOTR movies, they're just not near the top of my list in any category and I'd rather just read the books. I can watch Willow every year where as you couldn't pay me to sit through LOTR again.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:02
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Neither of those series are about good vs evil. Alright I quit. This is the dumbest thing Ive read. Youre all too far gone and disconnected from reality. How can you even think this. Like what
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Oct 17, 2016 13:05
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Phi230 posted:Alright I quit. This is the dumbest thing Ive read. Youre all too far gone and disconnected from reality. Tezzor, over the course of this thread I think one of the many things we've learned is that you are incapable of discussing movies. You are wise to quit.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:14
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Phi230 posted:Alright I quit. This is the dumbest thing Ive read. Youre all too far gone and disconnected from reality. loving chill mate, I think he's just saying that LOTR and SW have a lot more going on than just having simple "good vs. evil" narratives. Why are you an inoffensive poster in C-SPAM but an obnoxious prick in this thread?
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Oct 17, 2016 13:21
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I actually don't get the meme of bashing that poster ok maybe we don't need to dogpile to have an interesting discussion. Star Wars will never be LotRs because those movies have infinite backstory while Star Wars grows its mythology from set design.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:56
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Phi230 posted:i did, and I really remember boring trade negotiations, and CGI that looked like cheap plastic There are no Trade Negotiations in the film. Sword fights happen before they could start and then they don't happen. Have you never actually seen the movies and simply base your understanding of them on popular complaints from haters?
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Oct 17, 2016 14:02
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Spacebump posted:The Hobbit movies took a story the fans wanted, watered it down to fit into 3 movies, made the story worse, and had worse special effects than the PT. For the average person whose first experience with Tolkien was in 2001, the Hobbit films met and exceeded their expectations. You'll find these people are more numerous than the "where's Tom Bombadil, this movie sucks" crowd.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:06
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lmao jesus loving christ, this thread continues to hit new lows when we are now pretending the prequels are better then Lord of the Rings. Stay beautiful you special snowflakes.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:07
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What is the appeal of the LOTR movies?
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I said come in! posted:lmao jesus loving christ, this thread continues to hit new lows when we are now pretending the prequels are better then Lord of the Rings. Stay beautiful you special snowflakes. I wouldn't say the prequels are better than LOTR. They're about equal in my eyes, but people saying the prequels are more watchable are definitely right. The LOTR movies extended cut sometimes become more ponderous than the books, which is really an achievement. The Hobbit movies started strong but ended up as dogshit. The final hour of Battle of the Five Armies is wholly unwatchable.
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I said come in! posted:lmao jesus loving christ, this thread continues to hit new lows when we are now pretending the prequels are better then Lord of the Rings. Stay beautiful you special snowflakes. I can't speak for anyone else but I am absolutely not pretending. This is what I mean when I say that I think it's to the detriment of both series to say one is better than the other with a hand-wave. So, "I said come in!" why do you think the LOTR series is better than the Star War Prequels? I offered some reasons why I think the opposite, but here's another reason I think so: While some of the LOTR set-pieces are neat, they do tend to bleed together and seem same-y to me; none of the locales are as iconic as Kamino or Geonosis or the Gungan City on Naboo. Lampsacus posted:I actually don't get the meme of bashing that poster ok maybe we don't need to dogpile to have an interesting discussion. Despite posting in the subforum for discussing movies, that Phi230/Tezzor doesn't actually have any interest in discussing films. Look at his overreaction to SMG saying that both Star Wars and LOTR are about more than "Good vs. Evil" and tell me with a straight face that he shouldn't be mocked
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Oct 17, 2016 14:16
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The Hobbit 2 is the best Peter Jackson movie featuring one or more hobbits.
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I said come in! posted:lmao jesus loving christ, this thread continues to hit new lows when we are now pretending the prequels are better then Lord of the Rings. Stay beautiful you special snowflakes. Lucas the White beckons. The ships are leaving for the EUndying lands to the West.
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Lampsacus posted:The Eye of Star Wars Thread sees you. You will never make it across the plains to throw the ring of sincere posting into Mt. Prequel Debate. if you want to talk about "memes" in this thread why don't we address the fact that a lot of people seem to think the prequel defense going on in this thread is ironic. it is not. I, for one, actually am "sincere posting" about the prequels
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Whether its sincere or not, there is a contingent who defend it ironically. And some others have followed SMG down his rabbit hole, lubricated by smugness, where they have to read way too far into the scripts. It's astrology. Then again, you did leave a full stop off the last sentence there so who knows how deep we are at this stage .
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Bongo Bill posted:I'm not sure I can buy Star Wars as better than Lord of the Rings - have to give it some thought - but this Explain Birdman
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Oct 17, 2016 14:27
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Lampsacus posted:Whether its sincere or not, there is a contingent who defend it ironically. And some others have followed SMG down his rabbit hole, lubricated by smugness, where they have to read way too far into the scripts. It's astrology. Can you point out which posters are posting ironically? Also, who decides how far is "too far" when reading a script? I'm just curious as to whether or not there is some sort of international convention dealing with movie interpretations or if you're setting yourself up as the final authority.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:29
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:What is the appeal of the LOTR movies? The filmic qualities.
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Lampsacus posted:Whether its sincere or not, there is a contingent who defend it ironically. And some others have followed SMG down his rabbit hole, lubricated by smugness, where they have to read way too far into the scripts. It's astrology. Who talks like this
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Lampsacus posted:Whether its sincere or not, there is a contingent who defend it ironically. And some others have followed SMG down his rabbit hole, lubricated by smugness, where they have to read way too far into the scripts. It's astrology. So anyone who likes the prequels is either: - Being ironic or - A member of the cult of SMG? You...you don't really think that do you? Like you don't really think that a whole thread of users are incapable of all liking the prequels and performing deep/interesting readings on their own, do you? Also at what point has a piece of art been read into "too far"?
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Oct 17, 2016 14:38
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I am influential.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:39
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I am influential. It's legit funny that a lot of people actually think this is true.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:49
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I am controversial.
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I am gay
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temple posted:I am gay
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