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I'm not so sure Marvel's going to bounce back just yet. So far it seems that the current relaunch isn't going over that well, but I suppose we'll know for sure in a month or two.
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Oct 17, 2016 08:38
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It would be nice, if only so that Marvel would actually let there be a status quo that lasts more than a year.
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Oct 17, 2016 08:44
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Rhyno posted:Very few Marvel titles have digital sales that are higher than their physical sales. And they are also very hesitant to launch major new books as digital only since physical copies make up so much of the comics sales pie.
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Oct 17, 2016 10:17
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Teenage Fansub posted:The Batman's Suicide Squad thing is coming up in King's Batman. Det is doing an arc around a gang of people crippled by bat-vigilantism or something. As for indie titles, keep in mind the economics for them are very different than big 2 titles, so sales of 20k are a genuine hit and big moneymaker for the creators. Going with the August sales, that includes Walking Dead, Saga, Paper Girls, Kill or Be Killed, Spawn Kills Everyone, Black Monday Murders, Snotgirl, I Hate Fairyland, Outcast, Tokyo Ghost, and Briggs Land.
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Oct 17, 2016 13:32
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Roth posted:I think a lot of Marvel's current readers buy digital and/or through trades instead of physical single issues, so that probably explains a bit. They were good in Mercs for Money, though as I've ranted before, I'm not fond of them sticking with Slapstick's Civil War portrayal which is essentially the very thing he was created to mock. Still looking forward to Foolkiller's book and hoping Terror still gets some love.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:27
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irlZaphod posted:I guess in a way it's a little bit like the move from newsstands to the Direct Market. Although in this case I do feel the publishers aren't wanting to screw over retailers. Yeah. Despite all the hype of digital, without the Direct Market comic sales would be dead. Roth posted:I'm not so sure Marvel's going to bounce back just yet. So far it seems that the current relaunch isn't going over that well, but I suppose we'll know for sure in a month or two. NOW is bombing super hard. Champions had the largest FOC cuts on record and isn't selling well at all. Not good considering it was supposed to be the flagship of the NOW launch. Mosaic was a bomb, Solo isn't good, Cage isn't selling because of complaints that it's nothing like the show. Only Jessica Jones put up decent numbers but that book should have been out six months ago to be closer to the shows release. ANd yeah, Rebirth is slowing up a bit. But locally we're still selling double what we were on Batman, Detective, Superman, Wonder Woman, Batgirl and a few others. The only real bombs for us have been Cyborg and Blue Beetle. We moved over 100 copies more of the HQ and SS. Suicide Squad is selling SEVENTEEN times as many copies as New Suicide Squad was.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:37
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Oh yeah I read Mosaic last night and it wasn't great and felt like it should have been a mid-tier DC comic for some reason I can't quite put my finger on.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:46
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My LCS had Cyborg and Blue Beelte DOA as well, along with Superwomen and the Superman title that's not Clark. The one that started strong but died pretty quick that surprised me was Flash. Batgirl started strong for me, but as soon as they introduced MMA I dropped it like it was a paper bag full of spiders. I cannot think of anything that will get me less interested in a book by introducing MMA into it as a plotline. I was pumped for Birds of Prey as well, and I liked Batgirl and Black Canary in it, but Huntress was just terrible. She was basically the one from Arrow. I really wonder why Marvel's Now 2 is failing to gain readership. I can only think that people are thinking "oh this is all just going to lead to the next event that will shake everything up again, so why bother?".
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Oct 17, 2016 17:11
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Endless Mike posted:Oh yeah I read Mosaic last night and it wasn't great and felt like it should have been a mid-tier DC comic for some reason I can't quite put my finger on. It was soooo bad. After all that hype, this hot new character's book debuts to dismal numbers. We ordered 10 copies and I think I still have s6 on the shelf.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:11
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All of Now 2's new books aren't very interesting (the continuing stuff is pretty cool, psyched for Ultimates 2) but remember Now 1, all the covers and books looked so... I don't know, new? Like even if you didn't give a poo poo about hawkeye the cover and art they showed looked great (Aja am i right?) all the art and covers for Now 2 look so samey and dull and I don't give a poo poo about foolkiller and the art isn't helping sell me that the book is going to be cool. Like Bagely and Bagely rip offs isn't gonna get me to add a new book to my pull for some C-List character. Now 2 is white noise. So yeah that's prob why Now 2 is making GBS threads the bed.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:26
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I think NOW 2 just doesn't have that "oh poo poo, GALACTUS on a team?!" moment or the curiosity of how it's the universe remade by Franklin with promised changes like Miles moving to 616. Instead it just looks like a bunch of spin-offs of what's already been happening.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:57
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Foolkiller is a bad name. It was silly when he showed up in Spider-Man back in the day and it's silly now.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:03
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https://twitter.com/marvel/status/788045836789936132 I need a creative team before I can get too excited for this, but at least Marvel is finally doing something about what's been incredibly lackluster LGBT representation for the last few years.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:06
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Oh man Mockingbird ends this week.Barry Convex posted:https://twitter.com/marvel/status/788045836789936132 There's our first of the X-men solos that have never had a solo before i'd guess. And yea, Foolkiller, Solo, and Slapstick are not characters that get people excited.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:17
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Barry Convex posted:https://twitter.com/marvel/status/788045836789936132 Hey the cover has some of his best moments, that's a start. There aren't that many good moments for Iceman )=
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Oct 17, 2016 18:46
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Who the hell is Xiceman? Ressuroion looks bad
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Oct 17, 2016 18:47
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redbackground posted:At least make the slant angle of the X and the I match obviously this is subtle foreshadowing that iceman is leaving the xmen or maybe he already did that, I haven't been following them recently
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Oct 17, 2016 19:37
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Marvel is doing bad because they killed Cyclops. They deserve all of this.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:55
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Marvel is doing bad because they killed Cyclops. They deserve all of this. An eye for an eye, then?
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Oct 17, 2016 19:56
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They are slanted because he's not straight. This is such a bad and inaccurate joke that I had to make it even knowing this.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:05
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First issue better be titled "Ice to Meet You".
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Oct 17, 2016 20:15
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redbackground posted:First issue better be titled "Ice to Meet You". They have to be careful not to use up all their pun energy on story titles when the letters page will need a good name.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:25
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The branding and logo design here is extremely similar to the Regenesis X-books from 2011.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:35
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Wait, Mosaic was 5 dollars? Who thought that would be a good idea?
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Oct 17, 2016 20:36
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Lobok posted:They have to be careful not to use up all their pun energy on story titles when the letters page will need a good name. I think Batman & Robin showed us that there's no limit to the number of ice puns one can make.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:39
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So it's definitely teen Bobby starring. I wonde rif Adult Bobby will ever pop in and be like "for serious this should be my series."
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Oct 17, 2016 20:45
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twistedmentat posted:My LCS had Cyborg and Blue Beelte DOA as well, along with Superwomen and the Superman title that's not Clark. The one that started strong but died pretty quick that surprised me was Flash. I'd imagine that between a large part of it being continuations of previously running series and characters very few people care about is why it hasn't really gone anywhere so far. Compared to Rebirth which is largely old standbys with a few fan-favorites and a dollar less than Marvel, and I don't find it too surprising that DC is doing way better this year. Also, as a side-note, I thought Great Lake Avengers was ok. I think I'm feeling fatigued on self-esteem comedies from Marvel like it though, because it felt very "Been there, Done that" Roth fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 20:46
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Lobok posted:They have to be careful not to use up all their pun energy on story titles when the letters page will need a good name. "Signed, Sealed, and Shivered"
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Oct 17, 2016 20:49
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Rick posted:Hey the cover has some of his best moments, that's a start. There aren't that many good moments for Iceman )= What are they all? I'm not a dedicated Icemanologist.
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Oct 17, 2016 21:00
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Rhyno posted:So it's definitely teen Bobby starring. I wonde rif Adult Bobby will ever pop in and be like "for serious this should be my series." If he does they better answer no one cares bobby.
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Oct 17, 2016 21:09
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twistedmentat posted:Oh man Mockingbird ends this week. Boooooooooo, booooooooooooo 
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Oct 17, 2016 21:12
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Barry Convex posted:https://twitter.com/marvel/status/788045836789936132 whoooo fuckin caaaares
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Oct 17, 2016 21:37
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Blockhouse posted:hoooo fuckin caaaares
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Oct 17, 2016 21:39
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So the internet tells me young Bobby but all but one image from that cover is old Bobby. Hmmmm.
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Oct 17, 2016 21:47
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Edge & Christian posted:Working theory: the people who have already posted about the series? don't be pedantic For clarification on my stance since I know that's a thing you're into, Iceman has been a boring comedy relief character for most of his sixty year+ existence, there's no creative team or even actual art attached to the project, and there's nothing about this that makes me go "finally Marvel's stepping up their LGBT representation!" because A. everything about Iceman being gay has been handled terribly so far from the word go and B. it's not really 'stepping up' when you can apparently only have one book for a queer character at a time. Whoops, Angela ended, time to bring out the next one! It's a non-announcement with nothing to make me excited or even remotely interested and I can't imagine anything less interesting than "Iceman solo book with no artist or writer" for an initial announcement for where the X-books are going.
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Oct 17, 2016 21:53
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Barry Convex posted:I need a creative team before I can get too excited for this, but at least Marvel is finally doing something about what's been incredibly lackluster LGBT representation for the last few years.  ]Oh, I really Dennis Hopeless gets to helm this. He's been doing good with small Iceman in All-New X-Men. Also Spider-Woman remains one of my favorites.
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Oct 17, 2016 21:58
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I hope ResseurXion is a positive change for X-Men, returning them to where they were just so all the people going on about Marvel trying to kill them because of movie rights will finally stop.
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That might be worth reading if it's Young Bobby. And of course depending on the team. If it's Older Bobby, then I don't really care.
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