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PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
Holy cow Goliaths are so tiny! :3: I'm semi-okay with this since they can get cover from an ADL, but for a name like that I was expecting something more substantial.

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berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Yeast posted:

Image dump incoming. Got the Armies on Parade entry under the studio lights.



Your SL are so inspirational, Yeast. Are you doing salt weathering, or just sponging?

EDIT: The Burning of Prospero set comes with D6, D8, D10, and D12 dice - it's going to be interesting to see if that somehow carries over into the new 40K edition.

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Oct 17, 2016

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer
God I hope not. I don't want to buy a bunch of new dice, especially if I have to suddenly keep all kinds of different sizes handy.

We played around with re-working stat lines to work off of d10s, and it probably would have made for a better game, but with the shear volume of dice 40k takes, I feel like d6s are the best option.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I wouldn't mind seeing different dice, but the good thing here is that the design team is taking chances and innovating instead of coasting on thirty years worth of crust.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Different dice let you get rid of rerolls!

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

ANAmal.net posted:

God I hope not. I don't want to buy a bunch of new dice, especially if I have to suddenly keep all kinds of different sizes handy.

We played around with re-working stat lines to work off of d10s, and it probably would have made for a better game, but with the shear volume of dice 40k takes, I feel like d6s are the best option.

yeah the d10s were interesting but no one had enough of them and they don't stack well.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

Prism dice for everyone, get's get futuristic up in this bitch

melonfish
Apr 13, 2016

The original Dunning-Kruger test subject.
Still have my D4's, 8's, 10's, 12's and 20's from 2nd ed etc.
I genuinely miss having the different dice for damage and armour pen etc, it was way more interesting than a mahoosive hand full of tiny D6's.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
I don't understand why people are trying to connect this stand alone game with the new edition. It's like trying to connect the calth boxed game to the latest FAQs.

Hencoe
Sep 4, 2012

MY LIFE GOAL IS TO STICK A FLESHLIGHT INTO THE END OF A HOWITZER AND FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF IT
Same reason people post NZ prices on new releases like they are USD?

JackMack
Nov 3, 2007

Lord Twisted posted:

Yo JackMack any word on Goonocalypse? I have a friend who isn't a good but is a keen ork player who would love to join.

Played some more Heralds of Ruin kill team today... Fantastic game.

I read the thread about seventy times a day on my phone. Missed your question. Have asked for four tables and the Zone Mortalis table. I counted up, added a few for possible mates and came up with ten so have requested that divided by two. Any more and we can double up for funsies. I would be keen to play a silly multi game at the end of the day on the zone mortalis board but otherwise we can do what we want. Have not yet heard back from the good people of Warhammer World (who were really helpful last time when we changed the date).

That's promising for HoR. I haven't played it yet but am frantically painting up random GW models to form my Rogue Trader list of stuff. Suffice to say, even though it is a GW only team Eddie the Head will be leading my merry band.

Raphus C
Feb 17, 2011

BULBASAUR posted:

God drat I'm so hard for hams thanks to this post

I want to get in on the Yeast love. Someone mentioned a group in Cardiff, I can't play for the next few weekends but pm me details.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

JackMack posted:

That's promising for HoR. I haven't played it yet but am frantically painting up random GW models to form my Rogue Trader list of stuff. Suffice to say, even though it is a GW only team Eddie the Head will be leading my merry band.

What kinda models are you using for your rogue trader team? Seems like a fun way to go since there's no official models. You converting Inquisitors and Guard, or using things from outside GW, or what? Well, I guess you did say random GW models. Which ones you going with?

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

BULBASAUR posted:

I don't understand why people are trying to connect this stand alone game with the new edition. It's like trying to connect the calth boxed game to the latest FAQs.

I don't think it's wholly unreasonable to think that some of the stuff GW is doing in board games and such might be seeing if that kind of rule's fun and if they should bring it over to one of their big games. I don't see them moving away from D6s for their standard games though.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

BULBASAUR posted:

I don't understand why people are trying to connect this stand alone game with the new edition. It's like trying to connect the calth boxed game to the latest FAQs.

I'm saying it because, yeah, it's a standalone game, but it's the first time in years since GW's done anything outside of D6, and there is the possibility they are putting this out there as a way of easing people into different dice types. Or it could be completely baseless.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
"most people dont have these cheap dice" seems like a rather silly complaint when we're talking people whos typical armies of plastic/tin men usually easily exceed $100 without considering the cost of paint and basing

im pretty sure they could cover a 9.99 bag of weird dice

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
I dunno, I've seen nerds get weirdly stingy about gaming aids. You'd think being able to spare a £1 for a cheap tape measure wouldn't be a problem but our gaming nights in store have at least 3-4 people begging to use the store's, without fail.

JackMack
Nov 3, 2007

Raphus C posted:

I want to get in on the Yeast love. Someone mentioned a group in Cardiff, I can't play for the next few weekends but pm me details.

Did you say you were in Bristol? There is Bristol Vanguard which are a club I was invited to once (I was living south of bath at the time) by a goon. I can't remember who. Seemingly they are based out of a cool gaming store. I did a quick google and they have a website.

Zaphod42 posted:

What kinda models are you using for your rogue trader team? Seems like a fun way to go since there's no official models. You converting Inquisitors and Guard, or using things from outside GW, or what? Well, I guess you did say random GW models. Which ones you going with?



My rogue trader team is a trio of Arbites, the haughty imperial guard officer, an inquisitor servitor scribe, an imperial guard psyker, the old rogue trader assassin, three elder Rangers and a rogue astartes who looks suspiciously like Erasmus Tycho. And Eddie the HeAd. It is probably less exciting than you thought. They are a mix of models on my todo pile which I thought I would get through quicker if I have an event.

This is the boss. non GW (and my favourite model I have done for a bit and hence my obsession with posting him)

JackMack fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 17, 2016

Bombogenesis
Mar 27, 2010

Mekkatorque 2016
Dinosaur Gum

moths posted:

Now a bunch of cast-on-demand figures are listing as "sold out." I get that they probably reached some invisible in house cap, but... just what?

This is weird as hell but also good. When I went to the local GW to order my Kasrkin I talked with the dude for a bit and this is basically the trial run to see if theres enough interest in the system. They'll be cycling through armies every so often, but the timeframe still seems up in the air.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

SteelMentor posted:

I dunno, I've seen nerds get weirdly stingy about gaming aids. You'd think being able to spare a £1 for a cheap tape measure wouldn't be a problem but our gaming nights in store have at least 3-4 people begging to use the store's, without fail.

My FLGS has a stash of some of the stick rulers that come in starter sets like Dark Vengeance.

They've been dubbed "bitch sticks" and they're what people get if they need to borrow a tape measure.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

JackMack posted:

This is the boss. non GW (and my favourite model I have done for a bit and hence my obsession with posting him)



Eddie!! :o

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

berzerkmonkey posted:

Your SL are so inspirational, Yeast. Are you doing salt weathering, or just sponging?


Thanks! Sponging with Rhinox Hide. Gotta break up those big flat planes.

Also loads of washing, weather powder and typhus corrosion. I'll do a guide soon.


Juuuust managed to order my Steel legion Commissar & Lord Solar from made to order - can't believe how fast all the classic lines sold out. But as a 15yr guard player, it makes me smile :unsmith:

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
It should come as no surprise that a bunch of dudes who make swords for the Internet are also huge hams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gj8pAN7Y7E

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

SRM posted:

It should come as no surprise that a bunch of dudes who make swords for the Internet are also huge hams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gj8pAN7Y7E

That's pretty cool. I like that its actually operational, that's a bit more work than man at arms usually does.

The engine compartment is way too big though. If it was smaller that thing would almost be... dare I say it... practical?

Definitely more so than the Cloud Buster Sword anyways :cheeky:

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

SRM posted:

It should come as no surprise that a bunch of dudes who make swords for the Internet are also huge hams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gj8pAN7Y7E

Holy poo poo :getin:

Galaspar
Aug 20, 2006
Will reign this way again

moths posted:

Now a bunch of cast-on-demand figures are listing as "sold out." I get that they probably reached some invisible in house cap, but... just what?

I know I'm a bit late on this one, but the "sold out" tag is a little misleading. These are the models they've sold least of. A post on the store blog over the weekend set out the plan - everything would be up for 48 hours, then the less popular ones would be dropped.

Certainly, the minis still showing as available are the ones that, anecdotally, I've seen the most buzz over. The Kasrkin and the SL Commissar are popular models that any IG player can slot neatly into their army, and Macharius is a neat novelty. As for the "sold out" stuff, the old metal regiments bring back fond memories, but most of the die-hards building full Mordian armies or whatever have had 20 years to collect all they need.

If they keep the less popular models on sale for another week or two, they'd have to allocate small volumes of factory space and staffing to pitifully unprofitable manufacturing runs. Bob cant be scheduled to make extra Deathwatch next Tuesday, because he has to be rota'd on to make more Vallhallan cat-dick lieutenants, just in case the demand picks up a bit.The dismal mathematics of business risk management comes into play, and it becomes more economical just to take them off sale.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Plus its not, like, they snap the master molds in half or anything; they can just put them back in storage for the inevitable retro release/made to order to give them another chance.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
It's probably not feasible but if they redo old marine/chaos marine metals, I'd really love for them to size them up about 10% so they match current models. Probably some things I'd buy either way, though.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
I'm not sure about miniatures, but in action figure sculpting the master is usually signifantly larger than the production model, then (after a casting of the master gets cut up and rebuilt with joints) a shrunken cast is made using solvents.

So if they did have the master sculpts/mold available they probably could just shrink them 10% less than the old casts. Castings also tend to be larger than the work used to create the mold, so if they were really comitted to accurate scaling and had no master they could enlarge the figures through repeated cast/molds.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
The big contention amongst my group is would they do any of the specialist lines.

I think they'd crash the site if they put some of the Necromunda gangs back up, or things like the Mordheim carnival of Chaos etc.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Yeast posted:

carnival of Chaos

You guys have no idea how much cash I'd fork over for some Carnival of Chaos dudes. They were such wonderfully creepy sculpts.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
Back in July I won a doubles tournament and got a gift voucher I bought a Baneblade with.

Can anyone recommend which one of the *eight* variants to go with?

I checked the ITC which bans the Hellhammer and the Storm sword, so of the 6 remaining, any preferences?

Stormlord - Vulcan Megabolters sounds cool, could load it up a platoon to keep them safe?

Shadowsword - The only D weapon I can buy for the entire army.

Doomhammer - The 'cheap' option, long range demolisher cannon

Banesword - Probably the only one I wouldn't take. Not being able to fire at units closer than 24" and not having barrage is retarded.

Banehammer - A pretty nice weapon, and the dangerous terrain modifier could be cool to cause additional wounds

Baneblade - The moving turret is good so I can face AV14 at the opponent but still fire 360

So confused :ohdear:

Texmo
Jun 12, 2002

'Time fer a waaagh from above!

SteelMentor posted:

You guys have no idea how much cash I'd fork over for some Carnival of Chaos dudes. They were such wonderfully creepy sculpts.

I have a bunch of these which, I gotta be real with myself, are never getting used. I'll have a look and figure out what exactly i've got when i'm home, if you're serious.

Galaspar
Aug 20, 2006
Will reign this way again

Yeast posted:

The big contention amongst my group is would they do any of the specialist lines.

I think they'd crash the site if they put some of the Necromunda gangs back up, or things like the Mordheim carnival of Chaos etc.

Under the old CEO, I'd have said never, not a chance. They don't fit in with the current line-up, they don't promote further sales, and they reflect an older style and direction.

Under the current regime though, it could happen. Particularly if these early experiment in cast-to-order work out, the view is likely to be "why the hell not". The back catalogue is a resource to be tapped, nostalgia builds goodwill towards GW, and they know what people want. It didn't matter that there aren't rules for Lord Solar Macharius these days, or that they clearly haven't painted a studio example since the days of goblin green bases, he's a cool model that people expressed a demand for, so onto the store he went. This line of reasoning could easily stretch to some Specialist Games favourites. No need for an explanation of how they were used in games, just "here are some great models we used to make!"

A word of caution though. Someone I know was on the GW web store team a few years back, as the specialist games stuff was being removed. It simply didn't sell. The world was full of people who said "some day, I'll start that Redemption gang", but never did*. Perhaps the interest has increased since, and the immediacy of the new made-to-order model might encourage sales, but it's easy to overestimate demand in a small, very passionate community. The numbers might not make financial sense.

*all involved were are aware of the irony that it might sell, if only they could support and promote it.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Galaspar posted:


A word of caution though. Someone I know was on the GW web store team a few years back, as the specialist games stuff was being removed. It simply didn't sell. The world was full of people who said "some day, I'll start that Redemption gang", but never did*. Perhaps the interest has increased since, and the immediacy of the new made-to-order model might encourage sales, but it's easy to overestimate demand in a small, very passionate community. The numbers might not make financial sense.


Oh yeah, I'm with you 100% on that, and I'm certainly not thinking 'hey you guys should sell this is perpetuity' I think made to order would be a brilliant opportunity to give hobbyists 2 weeks advance notice, "For the weekend of the 18th of May, We'll be selling the following miniatures" and then sell a few thousand pounds of Escher. Give the die-hards an opportunity to put their money were their mouth is, gain some good will in the community, and get sales from what would otherwise be eBayers.

I love the new scheme, and if you'd told me a few months ago I would be able to buy a Steel Legion Commissar, in metal, direct from GW again, I'd have laughed in your face. However I think the way they executed it is a bit strange. If you were away this weekend, you're SOL buying miniatures that haven't been on-sale for 10 years in some cases.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Galaspar posted:

I know I'm a bit late on this one, but the "sold out" tag is a little misleading. These are the models they've sold least of. A post on the store blog over the weekend set out the plan - everything would be up for 48 hours, then the less popular ones would be dropped.

Certainly, the minis still showing as available are the ones that, anecdotally, I've seen the most buzz over. The Kasrkin and the SL Commissar are popular models that any IG player can slot neatly into their army, and Macharius is a neat novelty. As for the "sold out" stuff, the old metal regiments bring back fond memories, but most of the die-hards building full Mordian armies or whatever have had 20 years to collect all they need.

If they keep the less popular models on sale for another week or two, they'd have to allocate small volumes of factory space and staffing to pitifully unprofitable manufacturing runs. Bob cant be scheduled to make extra Deathwatch next Tuesday, because he has to be rota'd on to make more Vallhallan cat-dick lieutenants, just in case the demand picks up a bit.The dismal mathematics of business risk management comes into play, and it becomes more economical just to take them off sale.

Yeah this is kinda confusing but you're 100% right, good catch. The Facebook page just updated explaining the same thing; the ones that aren't "sold out" are the more popular ones and so they're extending them.

Looks like the make-to-order service closes for this shipment on wednesday, so get in now if you want some of those Karskin before the next run!

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Yeast posted:

Back in July I won a doubles tournament and got a gift voucher I bought a Baneblade with.

Can anyone recommend which one of the *eight* variants to go with?

I checked the ITC which bans the Hellhammer and the Storm sword, so of the 6 remaining, any preferences?

Stormlord - Vulcan Megabolters sounds cool, could load it up a platoon to keep them safe?

Shadowsword - The only D weapon I can buy for the entire army.

Doomhammer - The 'cheap' option, long range demolisher cannon

Banesword - Probably the only one I wouldn't take. Not being able to fire at units closer than 24" and not having barrage is retarded.

Banehammer - A pretty nice weapon, and the dangerous terrain modifier could be cool to cause additional wounds

Baneblade - The moving turret is good so I can face AV14 at the opponent but still fire 360

So confused :ohdear:

I'm doing a Stormlord so I can put 40 traitor mans in the back and liquify stuff

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Zaphod42 posted:

That's pretty cool. I like that its actually operational, that's a bit more work than man at arms usually does.

The engine compartment is way too big though. If it was smaller that thing would almost be... dare I say it... practical?

Definitely more so than the Cloud Buster Sword anyways :cheeky:
I like the new crew much better than the first guy. These guys do a lot more forging, and have done a few really interesting historical builds.

But anyway, about the engine compartment, they did, you know, have to make it big enough to fit the actual engine. Sure, they could've put in a little electrical motor instead, just to have the chain spin, but given the choice of practicality or more power, we both know which of the options is the more 40k one. :colbert:

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Not to mention that if you want it functional outside of genetically modified superhumans, you need a weighted base with enough space for two hands (unless breaking arms/flipping out of the user's hand is a feature)

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GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo

VikingSkull posted:

I'm doing a Stormlord so I can put 40 traitor mans in the back and liquify stuff

If you magnetize the gun and then keep the pieces that cover the open platfrom on the back, you can pretty easily make the Stormlord convert into a Doomhammer.

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