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Bruceski posted:If it ends with some "the real treasure is friendship/Jesus" thing (as the pirates' goal, not the game because of COURSE family being the important thing is going to be Nate's moral) I will be annoyed. But we've already established that the real treasure is Jesus, Bruceski. How else did you think the pirates got their 「Stands」?
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:I called it so hard and I'm still disappointed. I'm sorry this game is longer than six hours and contains a variety of locations. That must be very hard on you.
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Oct 18, 2016 11:37
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:I called it so hard and I'm still disappointed. I dunno, it's a cliche of adventure movies/games but I think they excused it pretty well here. Making pirates solve water bucket puzzles as a test to see if you are worthy to enter a secret pirate society is very silly, but at least it wasn't like in Uncharted 3 where clues literally just led to other clues that pointed to other clues.
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Oct 18, 2016 11:40
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So what happens if the first recruit picks up the cross? What then, Avery?  the true treasure was joining SKELETON HOUSE all along
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Oct 18, 2016 12:53
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Sure was lucky no-one in the last couple of hundred years sailed a boat around the cathedral and saw that giant fuckoff huge mechanism from the collapsed test through the massive hole in the side of the cave. Or ever looked (or fell) down any of the huge holes in the ground leading to the area which gave Drake his atmospheric area lighting. Also, was Avery a pirate king or was he a pirate construction company given all the world class tradesman in his crew? I know it's silly to get hung up on things like these, but when you go to so much effort to make your games look real, weird holes stand out even more.
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Oct 18, 2016 13:48
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Gorilla Salad posted:Sure was lucky no-one in the last couple of hundred years sailed a boat around the cathedral and saw that giant fuckoff huge mechanism from the collapsed test through the massive hole in the side of the cave. Part the first: That cliff below the mechanism is not something you would ever want to get near in a boat, unless you were absolutely insane and/or had a death wish. You would have to be directly underneath it to actually see what's inside the cave, judging from what you can see from Nate's point of view. Thing the second: Shoreline and dynamite. There probably weren't as many holes before they showed up. Item the third: That's touched upon later in the story. Never really outright EXPLAINED, but touched upon (Nate and Sam debate about it for a while around that point, too).
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Oct 18, 2016 14:20
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How did he know the Cross+Scale trick would even work? He obviously never tested it
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Oct 18, 2016 15:52
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Nate's super powers include clairvoyance Or he has seen like every single 80s-90s adventure movie
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Oct 18, 2016 16:29
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Obviously, the floor collapse is an unintended result of the place being old as gently caress and falling apart, whereas the real function of taking the cross is to display an alternate map to a fake location. It also displays the message "Put the cross back for the next guy btw" except with more piratey phrasing. Also nobody showed up to Avery's clubhouse in Madagascar, while the fake location turned into pirate thunderdome.
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Oct 18, 2016 16:33
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Gorilla Salad posted:Also, was Avery a pirate king or was he a pirate construction company given all the world class tradesman in his crew? Henry Avery was a crazy mechanical savant, even inventing power tools centuries before anyone else. The test machines at St. Dismas were built with his favorite air-powered hex wrench. "Arrr, it's drivin' me nuts!" as he always liked to say.
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Oct 18, 2016 17:57
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Josuke Higashikata posted:How did he know the Cross+Scale trick would even work? I thought he noted the floor and you see him talking to Sam when Nadine is trying to get a hold of Rafe. That or Nate just knows he's a natural at destruction.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:02
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I know Rafe is supposed to be rich but amateur, but he could have saved so much money on dynamite if he hired a geologist with a ground penetrating radar and a drone.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:33
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FAT BATMAN posted:I am very curious about the power dynamic between Nadine and Rafe. Before their scene I had assumed Rafe would be impotently ordering her around and threatening to cut her off from his $ if she didn't do what he said because He's The Boss, but they seem to be...actual partners? She's using Rafe. She and her PMC secretly work for Umbrella, and Umbrella heard about a gold coffin that has a super virus, blue tree sap , and fear water.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:35
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Uncharted games have the best set pieces.  I'm not sure if collapsing scottish pirate ruins tops burning chateau but it's a pretty drat good spectacle either way.
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zedprime posted:I know Rafe is supposed to be rich but amateur, but he could have saved so much money on dynamite if he hired a geologist with a ground penetrating radar and a drone. But the Nate wouldn't have been able to arm himself heavily or find anything to blast through those doors. And then nothing would have been either destroyed or unearthed.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:55
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zedprime posted:I know Rafe is supposed to be rich but amateur, but he could have saved so much money on dynamite if he hired a geologist with a ground penetrating radar and a drone. He tried but they all left after he said "You'll totally live after I find any secret pirate treasure"
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Oct 18, 2016 19:02
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KieranWalker posted:Part the first: That cliff below the mechanism is not something you would ever want to get near in a boat, unless you were absolutely insane and/or had a death wish. You would have to be directly underneath it to actually see what's inside the cave, judging from what you can see from Nate's point of view. Also, we see the results of someone trying that in the game itself, the brothers Drake climbed over a crashed-rear end pirate ship way down below in the last episode.
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Oct 18, 2016 20:06
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God-drat but the facial animations in this game are top-notch. Not only that, but the DIRECTION of the emotion is great too! But Ironicus, I must point out, it's not pronounced 'Ha-penny', it's pronounced 'Hape-nee'. It's one of those weird English things, like Fotheringay.
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Oct 18, 2016 20:13
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Samovar posted:But Ironicus, I must point out, it's not pronounced 'Ha-penny', it's pronounced 'Hape-nee'. It's one of those weird English things, like Fotheringay. Please don't insult Ironicus' dad like that, it's 2016 man that's not cool
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Samovar posted:But Ironicus, I must point out, it's not pronounced 'Ha-penny', it's pronounced 'Hape-nee'. It's one of those weird English things, like Fotheringay. Worchestershire sauce, pronounced woos-ter-sher
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Just found this thread. This game is very pretty.chiasaur11 posted:But we've already established that the real treasure is Jesus, Bruceski.
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Was that the first time Nate ever climbed a normal, modern ladder? Some of the many crumbling towers he's climbed have had ladders, but that was just scaffolding.
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I'm just waiting for this whole finding Paradise-with-a-capital-P thing to come back to bite Nate in the rear end when the inevitable spooky supernatural stuff starts up. Like turns out Avery found out the secret to immortality or something and Nate and crew have to fight off his crew of undead pirates, a la Pirates of the Caribbean
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Oct 18, 2016 23:15
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ousire posted:I'm just waiting for this whole finding Paradise-with-a-capital-P thing to come back to bite Nate in the rear end when the inevitable spooky supernatural stuff starts up. Like turns out Avery found out the secret to immortality or something and Nate and crew have to fight off his crew of undead pirates, a la Pirates of the Caribbean Paradise is heaven, the treasure is an elaborate suicide machine
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Oct 18, 2016 23:24
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Bruceski posted:Worchestershire sauce, pronounced woos-ter-sher My dad went to grad school in Boston, and always makes the lame observation that if they call Worcester Wooster why don't they call Dorchester dooster?
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ousire posted:I'm just waiting for this whole finding Paradise-with-a-capital-P thing to come back to bite Nate in the rear end when the inevitable spooky supernatural stuff starts up. Like turns out Avery found out the secret to immortality or something and Nate and crew have to fight off his crew of undead pirates, a la Pirates of the Caribbean Avery built a pirate ship large enough to destroy the earth
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ousire posted:I'm just waiting for this whole finding Paradise-with-a-capital-P thing to come back to bite Nate in the rear end when the inevitable spooky supernatural stuff starts up. Like turns out Avery found out the secret to immortality or something and Nate and crew have to fight off his crew of undead pirates, a la Pirates of the Caribbean 
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The twist is that Avery found Jesus and the treasure is in the Vatican. Final setpiece is a gunfight between Swiss Guard, South American Drug Lord, Rafe and Drake.
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Oct 18, 2016 23:56
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Fish Noise posted:Obviously, the floor collapse is an unintended result of the place being old as gently caress and falling apart, whereas the real function of taking the cross is to display an alternate map to a fake location. If everyone who comes leaves with a penny, and one penny is enough to shift the scales, is there someone nearby who is regularly going back to fill the scales with new pennies? Do they have to solve the puzzles each time or is there a back door?
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DatonKallandor posted:The twist is that Avery found Jesus and the treasure is in the Vatican. Final setpiece is a gunfight between FTFY
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chiefnewo posted:If everyone who comes leaves with a penny, and one penny is enough to shift the scales, is there someone nearby who is regularly going back to fill the scales with new pennies? Do they have to solve the puzzles each time or is there a back door?
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chiefnewo posted:If everyone who comes leaves with a penny, and one penny is enough to shift the scales, is there someone nearby who is regularly going back to fill the scales with new pennies? Do they have to solve the puzzles each time or is there a back door? Some of the initiates come in with loose change in their pockets, and you know how one coin's not much use so they just leave it for the next man. It's one of those Take-A-Pirate-Volcano-Token, Leave-A-Pirate-Volcano-Token trays.
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Really Pants posted:Henry Avery was a crazy mechanical savant, even inventing power tools centuries before anyone else. The test machines at St. Dismas were built with his favorite air-powered hex wrench. "Arrr, it's drivin' me nuts!" as he always liked to say. Jesus Christ. 
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Sully is Avery.
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chiefnewo posted:If everyone who comes leaves with a penny, and one penny is enough to shift the scales, is there someone nearby who is regularly going back to fill the scales with new pennies? Do they have to solve the puzzles each time or is there a back door? Considering how many pirate corpses litter the place, I'd imagine the number of pirates who actually succeeded was pretty low compared to the number of takers. There probably is a back door though, otherwise the pirates would have to walk back through every trial and you'd need someone to sneak in and reset all the traps. Makes more sense for the traps to automatically reset themselves and the successful pirates exit out the back.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:37
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The promise of Paradise killed more pirates than the legitimate navies of Europe ever could.
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Thinking back, was the first game the only one where we lost the really big treasure cause it turned out to be a scientifically magical artifact/substance too dangerous to let anyone have, but we still made a good profit cause one of our friends found a bunch of less important, but still valuable, treasure?
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Zagglezig posted:Thinking back, was the first game the only one where we lost the really big treasure cause it turned out to be a scientifically magical artifact/substance too dangerous to let anyone have, but we still made a good profit cause one of our friends found a bunch of less important, but still valuable, treasure? In the second game Drake and Elena found love, the greatest treasure of them all.
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Oct 19, 2016 03:57
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And in the third one drake found daddy issues!
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Zagglezig posted:Thinking back, was the first game the only one where we lost the really big treasure cause it turned out to be a scientifically magical artifact/substance too dangerous to let anyone have, but we still made a good profit cause one of our friends found a bunch of less important, but still valuable, treasure? Yes, the first one is the only one so far where Drake has walked away with any actual treasure (shiny trinkets aside). Not even the PS Vita one.
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