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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:https://twitter.com/canadaCJFE/status/788080257073020928 Lmao please do not defend the loving Rebel
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CLAM DOWN posted:Lmao please do not defend the loving Rebel On the other hand, if you're inclined to do so, be loud and proud about it. It serves as a warning to normal, sane people that you're a lovely garbage person with a broken brain, because the Rebel is trash and Ezra Levant is pathologically moronic.
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Oct 18, 2016 17:50
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excuse me the rebel provides unique original news stories not covered anywhere else after the closing of sun tv, such as "why we should hate brown people more" and "taxes are literally the devil taken form and the census is the mark of the beast"
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Oct 18, 2016 17:51
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Journalists have to stand up for Levant because they know if they start picking and choosing who the Good and Proper ones are then any politician can screw them right back with the same arguments.
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Oct 18, 2016 17:53
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If not for Ezra Levant, who would warn us of the dangers the Gypsy Menace present to our children and womenfolk?
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Lobok posted:Journalists have to stand up for Levant because they know if they start picking and choosing who the Good and Proper ones are then any politician can screw them right back with the same arguments. That's the point, isn't it? Letting those in power pick who can and can't cover a story isn't conducive to a healthy free press. E - It's certainly why three Canadian associations of journalists have condemned the UN's decision. Quite sure they're not doing it because they think the Rebel does good work.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:That's the point, isn't it? Letting those in power pick who can and can't cover a story isn't conducive to a healthy free press. Yeah, I just mean that if anyone posts some example of journalists standing up for him as some kind of proof of his ethics, standards, or moral fibre it's like no, they're not sticking up for the guy because they LIKE him.
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In principle it's bad that the UN is using an undefined and vague technicality to ban unfriendly journalists, but on the other hand any pretense of independent journalism actually holding powerful people to account became a mirage decades ago so it's hard to work up much enthusiasm for defending a noted shithead and corporate water carrier like Ezra "Ethical Oil" Levant. He's an active and vocal participant in the movement that did it's best to demolish anything resembling responsible journalism.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:01
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Lmao who will think of the poor journalists
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Keep your perfumed aristocratic paws off my maidens Justin! 
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The absolute irony of Levant begging Trudeau help him cover the UN is really delicious.
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Lobok posted:Yeah, I just mean that if anyone posts some example of journalists standing up for him as some kind of proof of his ethics, standards, or moral fibre it's like no, they're not sticking up for the guy because they LIKE him. It would be weird if someone did that. Helsing posted:In principle it's bad that the UN is using an undefined and vague technicality to ban unfriendly journalists, but on the other hand any pretense of independent journalism actually holding powerful people to account became a mirage decades ago so it's hard to work up much enthusiasm for defending a noted shithead and corporate water carrier like Ezra "Ethical Oil" Levant. He's an active and vocal participant in the movement that did it's best to demolish anything resembling responsible journalism. Is it better to allow that erosion to continue or fight against limiting the press?
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Lobok posted:Journalists have to stand up for Levant because they know if they start picking and choosing who the Good and Proper ones are then any politician can screw them right back with the same arguments. How awful of them, instead of this I propose you can ask three questions, that are to be sent in advance. You will only get a couple per year to ask.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:49
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:Is it better to allow that erosion to continue or fight against limiting the press? You might as well debate the merits of tossing a cup of water onto a forest fire. Most of the media serves very little function outside of being a weird fusion of oppo-research and PR agent, and almost all the powerful institutions and individuals that journalists are theoretically investigating or holding to account have more than enough access to polling, demographic data and alt-media sources to circumvent the traditional media or to play it like a fiddle. The media is a delivery service for whatever messages the peopel who matter want transmitted to us. There's some narrow scope for debate on a few issues where powerful people strongly disagree with each other, but even that is easy to overstate. The idea of an independent media adhering to some kind of ethical or professional standards, doing serious in-depth investigations, and serving a gate-keeper role in democratic functions seems like a grotesque joke.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:52
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Levant has stated on many occasions that he is a commentator, not a journalist. Now he says he is a journalist, and this will last exactly as long as is convenient for him.
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Oct 18, 2016 19:37
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Maybe Levant should take the UN to the human rights tribunal. 
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THC posted:Levant has stated on many occasions that he is a commentator, not a journalist. Now he says he is a journalist, and this will last exactly as long as is convenient for him. he has testified that hes not a journalist http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-unrepentant-ezra-levant-pleads-fair-comment-in-theatrical-testimony
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Maybe Levant should take the UN to the human rights tribunal. 
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Quality journalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-vek4Sx8wM Fluffy Chainsaw, do you want to die on this hill?
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The protections aren't just for "quality journalism".
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OSI bean dip posted:Quality journalism Yeah, I was lining up behind the defenders of journalism as well, but after actually watching some of Levant's work gently caress this. Might as well start handing out credentials to garden-variety Internet trolls too while we're at it.
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OSI bean dip posted:Quality journalism All I've written is that it is dangerous when a government or organization is allowed to determine who can and cannot report on its activities. You're welcome to quote any endorsement of Ezra that I've made.
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In no universe is it "dangerous" to decline journalistic credentials to that person and his organization
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:All I've written is that it is dangerous when a government or organization is allowed to determine who can and cannot report on its activities. First they came for the mediocre Glenn Beck rip offs , and I did not speak up because I was not a mediocre Glenn Beck rip off.
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Oct 18, 2016 20:54
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Why don't you go ask a tactical Canadian special forces superhero to accidentally dischargea gun on your face swagger/melian/pvalue
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Ontario's energy minister admits the bulk of nearly $12 million spent on the government's plan to offer financial help to low-income electricity customers went to consultants and advertising. The Progressive Conservatives accuse the Liberals of badly mismanaging the Ontario Electricity Support Program because $11.7 million of the $11.9 million budget went to consultants, publications, media and advertising. lol
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THC posted:Ontario's energy minister admits the bulk of nearly $12 million spent on the government's plan to offer financial help to low-income electricity customers went to consultants and advertising. That's not mismanaging at all. The plan from the get-go was to funnel money to those groups. It was managed perfectly!
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Oct 18, 2016 21:04
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Your entry on this topic was literally the press release of the CAJ taking up his case to the UN, so it kind of appears that the free market found a solution to his problem.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:All I've written is that it is dangerous when a government or organization is allowed to determine who can and cannot report on its activities. Actually it is about ethics in environmental journalism.
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Oct 18, 2016 21:12
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The Ontario Electricity Support Program is basically peak Libbing. You know what. The next time it's a toss up between the Liberals and the Conservatives I'm voting for the loving Cons.
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EvilJoven posted:The Ontario Electricity Support Program is basically peak Libbing. I can't do that, no way - the Liberals are definitely a shitshow, but they at least have better social policy in general, let alone whatever the gently caress Patrick Brown is doing.
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Oct 18, 2016 21:57
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Did this get posted yet? Melaine Joly is allegedly pushing for digital taxes to fund Canadian Media Content lol http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/stop-the-federal-government-before-it-taxes-everything-on-the-internet
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Oct 18, 2016 22:15
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I'm fine with higher taxes on nearly everything.
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Oct 18, 2016 22:48
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Yes, we need to fund more original Canadian Content to protect our rich and proud history and
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DariusLikewise posted:Yes, we need to fund more original Canadian Content to protect our rich and proud history and This, but unironically. Should we have the fight about the Hip again?
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Oct 18, 2016 23:08
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If the Rebel gets in to report on the conference, they should have the decency to let The Onion in as well. At least their fabricated, bullshit stories are amusing and not racist garbage.
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Imagine if we fired the boards of sfu, ubc, uvic and put government technocrats in charge with significantly expanded budgets and a mandate to end all profit generating initiatives (like real restate development)? Tax the gently caress out of broadband, gasoline, groceries, I don't care what.
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Arivia posted:This, but unironically. Should we have the fight about the Hip again? Who can say which Content is really Canadian though? Kellie Leitch? If we can't define it, we shouldn't be funding what could be American or some other countries Content just created by Canadians.
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DariusLikewise posted:Did this get posted yet? Melaine Joly is allegedly pushing for digital taxes to fund Canadian Media Content lol That's a really big "allegedly" for something that the writers' guilds etc. have been lobbying for for years and getting rejected by both major parties because it would be politically toxic. There's nothing in this OpenMedia op-ed or the similar Geist column this week to support the idea that it's any more likely this time than last time. The worst that's likely to happen is some half-hearted attempt to make Netflix et. al. actually collect sales tax like their local competitors have to.
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We would see a lot more innovation if tax rates hit 100% at $200K and exemptions were removed except for losses. People would suddenly up their risk exposure in lending and R&D and starting businesses if the alternative was that they just handed over all the money to CRA. People always whine about working less but that just means now one high compensation job becomes two which is another benefit for society and inequality. Same with corporations, if it gets too big its tax liabilities just increase so you don't form huge oligopolies through M&A greed creep. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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