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straight up brolic posted:I know it's California so this is irrelevant , but shouldn't the death penalty not be a referenda issue. If 49% of your electorate is against state supported murder and 51% is for it, it doesn't seem like a compelling mandate to make that ethical decision. The death penalty there is weird anyway. There's almost 750 people on death row, but only 13 people have been executed since the death penalty was reinstated in 1982. And 0 people have been executed since 2006. More death row inmates have died from disease or old age in California since 1982 then from execution.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Small private planes aren't nearly as safe as commercial jetliners, and politicians fly a lot. Yeah, but it seems like even by general aviation standards they have a lot of incidents. Get-there-itis leading pilots to take off in marginal conditions, maybe?
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Oct 19, 2016 03:56
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2spooky4me posted:far lower? it was single digits iirc Liberal pragmatism is cold comfort for people who grew up then and spent their youths fighting for poo poo that ended up being a knock-on effect of the late 90s way of doing thing. Canada had gay marriage in every province before there was a paradigm shift. Same with Mexico and Argentina's federal gay marriage laws. Ultimately compromising did less than nothing if there was a veto proof majority.
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Spaced God posted:https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/788448383799169024 Oh cool, its the infamous "it was just a joke!" defense. We have a regular James O'Keefe over here.
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Holy shot piiiissssss I had no idea The Dana Carvey show had anything of value and that Colbert was in it. The wrong guy from Wayne's World got botched heart operations and a hobbled career.
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Ghetto Prince posted:I just found out there's a German version of the Daily Show and also found a guy on youtube who posts the whole show with english subtitles. Proest click ever
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SSNeoman posted:Holy hell this is gonna be a shitshow. Jerry Springer has called this a farce. Or at least unamerican bastardry that belongs on his show.
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Gyges posted:Theoretically it could be a hastening of the Republican Demographic Apocalypses. But since Donny is the standard bearer of the Republicans it's really hard to tell and most likely it doesn't transfer at all. Maybe post President Obama can inspire Democrats to turn out for midterms, but probably not and we'll have to wait and see just how close to their groin the Republicans decide to shoot themselves in 2020. I don't know man. African Americans are the most staunch Democratic demographic precisely because of poo poo like this. LBJ basically saw to that. It makes sense that an entire voting generation have become Democrats due to this election and we already know that D voter registration is way up.
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Oct 19, 2016 04:00
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Just remember that Trump is going to go hard for his pants-on-head crazy base. He has shown nothing else recently. The most success he can likely have is on par with debate 2--that is, no significant success.
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I actually did a paper on the shift in college, and I think a good amount of it was media representation. In relatively short succession, the Simpsons had an episode with John Waters as an openly gay protagonist in a story that wrangled with homophobia, Ellen came out on TV and in the media without her career completely collapsing (only, y'know, mostly), and Will and Grace started up with gay protagonists. These all had cultural impacts, and all served to dismantle a long-standing stereotype of gays as threats, predators, or punchlines. It didn't quite get there, but it provided a foothold.
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quote:candy chat The worst candy is candy cigarettes. I hear you say, "But I don't live in a rural-Gothic novel with a dilapidated gas station staffed by a dower old man with a thousand yard stare waiting on the usual clientele of ghost truckers and blues musicians on their way to meat the devil. I have never had a candy cigarette." Next time you down some ibuprofen, chew it. There's your candy cigarette.
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NewMars posted:Jerry Springer has called this a farce. Or at least unamerican bastardry that belongs on his show. I don't have a link to the tweet but Jerry Springer posted:Hillary Clinton belongs in the White House. Donald Trump belongs on my show
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dis astranagant posted:I don't have a link to the tweet but  Emote's gonna get a lot more work before November, I think. Hopefully it's in full force tomorrow.
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emdash posted:Just remember that Trump is going to go hard for his pants-on-head crazy base. He has shown nothing else recently. The most success he can likely have is on par with debate 2--that is, no significant success. I think he stands to gain ground with people pleading, begging, searching for reasons to feel good enough to vote for him this year.
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Found it https://twitter.com/jerryspringer/status/780601736327208960
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NewMars posted:Jerry Springer has called this a farce. Or at least unamerican bastardry that belongs on his show. Jerry Springer was also a really good politician.
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dis astranagant posted:I don't have a link to the tweet but Link here for the curious. Btw it pays to learn the Twitter search operators if you ever have to look for old tweets.
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Agnosticnixie posted:Liberal pragmatism is cold comfort for people who grew up then and spent their youths fighting for poo poo that ended up being a knock-on effect of the late 90s way of doing thing. Canada had gay marriage in every province before there was a paradigm shift. Same with Mexico and Argentina's federal gay marriage laws. Again this doesn't jive with my experiences talking to people in the community about it. Most folks care more about what a politician thinks about LGBT people in the year 2016 than what they thought in 1992 -- especially considering that there's plenty of folks on the other side of the aisle who are more than willing to roll back advances. The whole thing smacks of axe-grinding tbqh.
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berserker posted:Even SNL got in on that; I remember some skit where one of the men on the show was playing Reno and he busts through a wall like a linebacker. From a few pages back but that was actually Janet Reno, bursting into a sketch called Janet Reno Dance Party where she was played by Ferrell. Insanely bad quality but you get the idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyACwczjGTs
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SSNeoman posted:Holy hell this is gonna be a shitshow. The more of a shitshow is the more Trump loses. The conservative echochamber has convinced itself that the key to beating Clinton is for Trump to be an aggressive rear end in a top hat to her - it's why they think he won the 2nd debate in spite of every poll afterwards saying he lost. The people on fox have no idea that the poo poo he's spewing are furthering his gender gap because they keep interrupting their female cohosts mansplaining why Trump is a genius.
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The second debate had way fewer viewers than the first one. I feel like this one is going to be an even bigger drop off. There are no crazy rumors flying for this one and it is on a week night. Plus, no big revelations since the Trump Tapes.
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Aesop Poprock posted:From a few pages back but that was actually Janet Reno, bursting into a sketch called Janet Reno Dance Party where she was played by Ferrell. Ah, the 90s. "The AG has short hair so SHE'S A MAN that's the joke"
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comingafteryouall posted:The second debate had way fewer viewers than the first one. I feel like this one is going to be an even bigger drop off. There are no crazy rumors flying for this one and it is on a week night. Plus, no big revelations since the Trump Tapes. The general mood seems to be that people are just depressed by this election season. Why make it worse? It's not like there's going to be anything substantive on the table from at least one of the candidates.
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Aesop Poprock posted:From a few pages back but that was actually Janet Reno, bursting into a sketch called Janet Reno Dance Party where she was played by Ferrell. That was actually the last in a series of skits involving Janet Reno, played by Will Ferrell. SNL likes to do that where after a while of lampooning someone they get the real person on to lampoon the impersonator.
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comingafteryouall posted:The second debate had way fewer viewers than the first one. I feel like this one is going to be an even bigger drop off. There are no crazy rumors flying for this one and it is on a week night. Plus, no big revelations since the Trump Tapes. Also, CNN had an article on how the American public is just plain getting sick of Trump's poo poo. Like, he's become boring for them.
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roymorrison posted:Proest click ever Hmm bye thread I found a bunch of episodes of my new favorite show to catch up on over the next week.
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Agnosticnixie posted:Liberal pragmatism is cold comfort for people who grew up then and spent their youths fighting for poo poo that ended up being a knock-on effect of the late 90s way of doing thing. I mean, except for all the people who did grow up then and say the Clintons are just fine.
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I don't get it. A couple days ago there was a poll showing McMullin ahead of Clinton ahead of Trump in the lead in Utah's polling but when you go to 538 he's not leading in any of them.
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fishmech posted:The death penalty there is weird anyway. There's almost 750 people on death row, but only 13 people have been executed since the death penalty was reinstated in 1982. And 0 people have been executed since 2006. Unfortunately we also have a proposition this year to speed up the death penalty, and unlike the one to ban it this one looks like it will actually pass. It sucks. Teddybear posted:I actually did a paper on the shift in college, and I think a good amount of it was media representation. In relatively short succession, the Simpsons had an episode with John Waters as an openly gay protagonist in a story that wrangled with homophobia, Ellen came out on TV and in the media without her career completely collapsing (only, y'know, mostly), and Will and Grace started up with gay protagonists. These all had cultural impacts, and all served to dismantle a long-standing stereotype of gays as threats, predators, or punchlines. It didn't quite get there, but it provided a foothold. I still love that graph where the popularity of "Ellen" as a name for Christian baby girls plummeted twice in the past two decades. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Rust Martialis posted:Apologies if I missed this being posted - Florida government getting slapped around on mail-in voting etc. HARD by the Judge. gently caress Rick Scott with a hammer.
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2spooky4me posted:Again this doesn't jive with my experiences talking to people in the community about it. Most folks care more about what a politician thinks about LGBT people in the year 2016 than what they thought in 1992 -- especially considering that there's plenty of folks on the other side of the aisle who are more than willing to roll back advances. I don't really care either, except when someone tries to claim that they're a gay icon. Then I've got an axe to grind, because I don't really think they deserve that moniker. People should be honored for speaking against the grain, not conveniently supporting gay rights when the time finally comes where it is politically convenient for them to do so. We should forgive, but not forget.
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Lamb Chowder posted:I don't get it. A couple days ago there was a poll showing McMullin ahead of Clinton ahead of Trump in the lead in Utah's polling but when you go to 538 he's not leading in any of them. that was a no-name poll and 538 only aggregates well respected national-level pollsters. The most recent Utah poll showed a 3-way tie, though - but it takes more than 1 poll to move the 538 dial.
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Boon posted:I don't know man. African Americans are the most staunch Democratic demographic precisely because of poo poo like this. LBJ basically saw to that. It makes sense that an entire voting generation have become Democrats due to this election and we already know that D voter registration is way up. Yes, but it's still to early to tell if this is a whole sale shift, or if the demographic goes back to just being 60/40 for Democrats. Donny is really bad and it's probably prudent to wait and see if a less openly and proudly racist against various ethnic groups does nearly as poo poo.
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I'm sorry you got bent out of shape over a glib response to an internet troll. Really slaying dragons for the cause.
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Gyges posted:Yes, but it's still to early to tell if this is a whole sale shift, or if the demographic goes back to just being 60/40 for Democrats. Donny is really bad and it's probably prudent to wait and see if a less openly and proudly racist against various ethnic groups does nearly as poo poo. Romney did not do too well with Hispanics either, the electorate was just whiter then.
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2spooky4me posted:I'm sorry you got bent out of shape over a glib response to an internet troll. It was only glib until you went on to stubbornly defend it and claim that the LGBT community has been fawning over the Clintons for the past 8 years. Then it's a little more than a passing remark. Also not sure why you're bothered by people debating & discussing in Debate & Discussion?
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Squeegy posted:I don't really care either, except when someone tries to claim that they're a gay icon. Then I've got an axe to grind, because I don't really think they deserve that moniker. People should be honored for speaking against the grain, not conveniently supporting gay rights when the time finally comes where it is politically convenient for them to do so. We should forgive, but not forget. okay but like, her actions as secretary of state measurably and demonstrably made my life easier as a trans woman and as a lesbian. so i have no qualms calling her an lgbt ally.
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Instant Sunrise posted:okay but like, I have no problem with that either and I don't recall saying I did. Ally is a little different from hero.
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