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The big issue with 5e isn't that it is a big step backwards or that it has no actual mechanical underpinnings, it's that it was created by belligerent sociopaths and serial harassers. Do not support them.
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ProfessorCirno posted:The big issue with 5e isn't that it is a big step backwards or that it has no actual mechanical underpinnings, it's that it was created by belligerent sociopaths and serial harassers. Do not support them. make sure to never watch a Roman Polanski movie too
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Oct 19, 2016 00:18
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Kibner posted:This link still works for me: http://ddi.wizards.com You can still get new subs. I did just a month or so ago using this link: http://gc.digitalriver.com/store/dndi/html/pbPage.wizards
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Oct 19, 2016 00:19
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mastershakeman posted:make sure to never watch a Roman Polanski movie too This is unironically a good moral position as well, yes. Are you advocating we should just ignore the shitheels responsible for 5e?
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Oct 19, 2016 00:26
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Arivia posted:This is unironically a good moral position as well, yes. Are you advocating we should just ignore the shitheels responsible for 5e? yes hate the writer , not the game
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Oct 19, 2016 00:29
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Arivia posted:This is unironically a good moral position as well, yes. Are you advocating we should just ignore the shitheels responsible for 5e? but what about all the shitheels responsible for everything else in the world?
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Oct 19, 2016 00:29
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mastershakeman posted:yes I'm glad that you feel you can do this, mister white cishet guy who's never encountered a problem in his life
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Oct 19, 2016 00:34
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instead of spending money on d&d 5th edition please consider d&d next
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Oct 19, 2016 00:35
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mormonpartyboat posted:instead of spending money on d&d 5th edition please consider d&d next Perhaps D&D previous instead.
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Oct 19, 2016 00:39
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How is WotC so loving bad at the internet and online offerings?
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FAT BATMAN posted:One of my friends wants to play a necromancy-type character, someone who summons skeletons and such (he's leaning towards death cleric) but he doesn't want to be evil or stereotypically edgelord (unless it would be funny). this was with 13th age, but i played a necromancer that was a circus leader and the skeletons were performers 
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Oct 19, 2016 00:44
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Arivia posted:I'm glad that you feel you can do this, mister white cishet guy who's never encountered a problem in his life I identify as a wizard who shapeshifts into a dragon when he wants to have sex with an exotic hypercar
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Oct 19, 2016 00:57
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mastershakeman posted:make sure to never watch a Roman Polanski movie too Ummm yes? This is unironically a good piece of advice. Like, is anyone really going to contend that we shouldn't play MYFAROG because it was written by a convicted arsonist?
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Oct 19, 2016 01:24
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gradenko_2000 posted:Ummm yes? This is unironically a good piece of advice. I like how Varg's internet infamy has gone on for so long people have forgot the murders.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:30
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Arivia posted:I like how Varg's internet infamy has gone on for so long people have forgot the murders. Varg is such a well-rounded rear end in a top hat that it's entirely reasonable to forget about stuff like that.
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Skeletons not under necromancer control start trying to kill any living things nearby, which can tend to make people a bit nervous even with the best of intentions. My own necromancer believes that in the tri-fold mind-body-soul model of existence that DnD-worlds (in his mind) follow, skeletons are missing key parts of the body, still have bits of the mind (hence why they can open doors and use martial weapons) but are wholly missing the ego-support-structure known as the soul, and have to substitute negative energy themselves. Their violence towards living beings is more of an instinctive attempt to extract their soul and stuff it into themselves. This generally doesn't work, but does explain why skeletons will occasionally wear the belongings of beings they've killed - they've either grabbed a bit of their soul, or think they have. The character himself is a skeleton that managed to hang onto just enough of the soul to not need the negative energy (and is, rulewise, a human). Ghosts in this model are, naturally, parts of a mind and soul but missing a body. A mind without a soul is just a bundle of knowledge that may retain some basic instincts. edit: this grand unified model also explains why Animate Objects is a higher level spell than Animate Dead when you'd think it would be the other way around from an in-world point of view. When you animate dead, you're taking an existing mind and shoving it into an existing body, and since you don't have a soul on hand you're just shoving negative energy in there. When you animate objects, you're shoving a human-ish mind that you've created whole cloth into a non-human body and who knows where the soul bit is, if anywhere - they presumably have none and fall apart quickly when the spell ends. It's the difference between pouring water into a cup with a bit of a leak in it, and taking water from a well with your bare hands. You keep your personality when you get Polymorphed because your body and mind get swapped out (so that you know how to use your T-Rex body) but you keep the soul. bewilderment fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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mastershakeman posted:make sure to never watch a Roman Polanski movie too lol dude, even setting the ethical issue here aside, comparing 5e to any Polanski movie is hilariously lofty Is there a better comparison I wonder? Like a crappy webcomic drawn by a date rapist or something?
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I only feel comfortable consuming media from reprehensible assholes if I know I'm not monetarily supporting their awfulness. Buying a Next book second hand for example is something I wouldn't be ethically conflicted about. I mean I'd be conflicted in other ways because it's a poo poo game and I'm almost certainly paying too much for something that's just 3.pf but with less options, but not ethically so.
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Guy A. Person posted:lol dude, even setting the ethical issue here aside, comparing 5e to any Polanski movie is hilariously lofty touché
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Guy A. Person posted:Is there a better comparison I wonder? Like a crappy webcomic drawn by a date rapist or something? Didn't Tim Buckley show his donger to a 16 year old girl? CAD and 5e is probably a good fit.
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Razorwired posted:Didn't Tim Buckley show his donger to a 16 year old girl? CAD and 5e is probably a good fit. D&B^U
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FAT BATMAN posted:One of my friends wants to play a necromancy-type character, someone who summons skeletons and such (he's leaning towards death cleric) but he doesn't want to be evil or stereotypically edgelord (unless it would be funny). If it has to be bones then maybe hes into "waste not want not" and his parents were taxidermists. e: super beaten. Dont any of you have jobs?! 
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Oct 19, 2016 04:00
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Mordiceius posted:How is WotC so loving bad at the internet and online offerings? They historically have had (and been able to have) the attitude that "working here is a privilege for people who really love gaming and love our stuff" because, seriously, every kid who grew up playing D&D and/or Magic would love to work at WotC making D&D and Magic stuff. So they don't pay very well, have tolerated an above average turnover, and also are located in Seattle where their competition for IT talent is Microsoft and Amazon.com. More recently, they were purchased by Hasbro, which cut their staff down to the minimum possible crew to make 3 D&D books a year, to keep that trademark alive, and whatever is needed to operate the Magic cash-printing machine.
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My PCs are hexcrawling through an enchanted forest that's been haunted/ruled over by a coven of hags. So far they've fought lots of spiders, wild animals, and animated plants. They seem to be getting bored of this, so what other sorts of things could they encounter in the woods?
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DrSunshine posted:My PCs are hexcrawling through an enchanted forest that's been haunted/ruled over by a coven of hags. So far they've fought lots of spiders, wild animals, and animated plants. They seem to be getting bored of this, so what other sorts of things could they encounter in the woods? A crowd of animal rights activists upset that they've murdered all that wildlife.
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Oct 19, 2016 04:38
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DrSunshine posted:My PCs are hexcrawling through an enchanted forest that's been haunted/ruled over by a coven of hags. So far they've fought lots of spiders, wild animals, and animated plants. They seem to be getting bored of this, so what other sorts of things could they encounter in the woods? slap me and kiss me posted:A crowd of animal rights activists upset that they've murdered all that wildlife. A pseudodragon lawyer serves them papers, they're due to appear in Forest Court for multiple counts of murder; the PCs now have to defend themselves against a bunch of illogical creatures who are out for blood and amusement.
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St0rmD posted:located in Seattle where their competition for IT talent is Microsoft and Amazon.com.
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DrSunshine posted:My PCs are hexcrawling through an enchanted forest that's been haunted/ruled over by a coven of hags. So far they've fought lots of spiders, wild animals, and animated plants. They seem to be getting bored of this, so what other sorts of things could they encounter in the woods? A giant spider that is actually made out of bears, with each bear fighting independently as each limb of the "spider" is severed.
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Barudak posted:A giant spider that is actually made out of bears, with each bear fighting independently as each limb of the "spider" is severed. Would you rather fight a spider made of bears or a bear made of spiders?
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Oct 19, 2016 05:16
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BambooEarpick posted:Yeah, I guess all the extra calculations would bog things down. It'd be like playing Final Fantasy Tactics but you have to figure everything out by hand. "Oh, ok, my zodiac sign is Pisces which gains +5% chance to hit against Virgo but reduces damage by 3% against Gemini, hmmm...." There's also the issue that combat in 4E is *supposed* to take a while so everyone has the chance to bust out a couple of cool moves. 4E combats work best as big action movie sequences, as opposed to "you bump into five kobolds as you round the corner, roll for initiative" trash fights. 4E (IMO) works better with fewer, but bigger, fights per adventure, while 5E goes the opposite direction and calls for more, but shorter, fights.
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Selachian posted:There's also the issue that combat in 4E is *supposed* to take a while so everyone has the chance to bust out a couple of cool moves. 4E combats work best as big action movie sequences, as opposed to "you bump into five kobolds as you round the corner, roll for initiative" trash fights. I know that this is the accepted wisdom, but my group found that our 5e combats were nearly as long as the ones we had in the previous edition.
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Oct 19, 2016 05:23
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St0rmD posted:They historically have had (and been able to have) the attitude that "working here is a privilege for people who really love gaming and love our stuff" because, seriously, every kid who grew up playing D&D and/or Magic would love to work at WotC making D&D and Magic stuff. So they don't pay very well, have tolerated an above average turnover, and also are located in Seattle where their competition for IT talent is Microsoft and Amazon.com. More recently? Weren't they purchased by Hasbro before they put out 3.0?
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If someone complains about you raising skeletons, point out their leather armor. They're wearing a dead cow's skin, how is that different?
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slap me and kiss me posted:I know that this is the accepted wisdom, but my group found that our 5e combats were nearly as long as the ones we had in the previous edition. I know its cut down a ton of time on my end because as GM my monsters can't really do very much, unless they're a spell caster. Combine that with classes like fighter and rogue being basically "Do the same thing every turn because doing the optimal thing is painfully obvious and unchanging" and I've cut out like half of what used to make combat take so long. The other factor is the game seems to think that somehow if 4 Goblins were an appropriate challenge at Level 1 (they weren't) then 8 goblins will be an appropriate challenge at level 3 (they aren't, but the opposite way).
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DrSunshine posted:My PCs are hexcrawling through an enchanted forest that's been haunted/ruled over by a coven of hags. So far they've fought lots of spiders, wild animals, and animated plants. They seem to be getting bored of this, so what other sorts of things could they encounter in the woods? They have zany forest misadventures/regular adventures with a big ol' colony of friendly sapient wolves that can talk and are kinda okay with the hag rule, but not so okay with it that they're opposed with the PCs who are likely going to topple the hags.
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food court bailiff posted:Didn't Kobold Press do the Wrath of Tiamat books? Those ranged from pretty cool to godawful from chapter to chapter. The first book ended with your party crashing a giant floating castle into a mountain range and the next one assumes you somehow ended up in some major FR city like Neverwinter or something like that, with the sidebar "if your characters aren't in $city for whatever reason (like, there not being any reason at all for them to end up there based on the published adventure), I don't know, a magic raven with a note teleports them there." We're about to finish this adventure up. I'm wondering how we will survive the finale.
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WotC has always been terrible at tech, ESPECIALLY if it's web-based. It was that way long before 5e came out.FRINGE posted:This doenst mean as much as it sounds like. Seattle is awash with tech people if you are willing to As I understand, WotC pays a good amount below industry standard, especially for the area, and has little to no opportunities for vertical movement in-company. WotC - not just the D&D department, but the whole company - ends up with the dregs, because that's all they're willing to pay for.
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BambooEarpick posted:Having not played 4e I've heard numerous people complain about really long combat. Why is that? Is every PC and mob just a HP sponge? If that's the problem then can you just half everyone's HP and call it a day or are there too many mechanics that something like that would interfere with? BambooEarpick posted:Does anyone have some resources for 4e I could look at? I'd like to one day run my own homebrew campaign but give certain classes more fun stuff. I know 4e has attacks that move enemies and that sounds neat. I think maybe having a threat mechanic would be neat, too. Like, what's to stop ranged guys from just peppering the PC's backline? A caster usually doesn't have very good AC so a few shots past the Fighter and suddenly damage output drops dramatically. Maybe have the Fighter taunt a mob so it can only attack him or can attack other things but with penalty or something. I wrote responses to both of these, but I would like to redirect you to the 4e thread, so that we don't derail this thread any further: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3605446&pagenumber=160#post465507388
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Mordiceius posted:How is WotC so loving bad at the internet and online offerings? After an unfortunate murder-suicide incident, they kind of backed out of doing anything more than the barest web presence.
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