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Just get an iPhone 7 which looks to be cheaper per month compared to the v20 and then flip it for a Pixel.
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bronin posted:Got an email saying that my order is on hold because my card was not accepted. Had to use my wife's credit card because google wouldn't accept mine. Gotta call my bank what was up with that. Did you have to use 3d-secure? If not, you just put through a big Card Not Present transaction coded as high value electronics. Puts it high up the suspicious scale to begin with. If they ran the transaction at the small hours of the morning, even more so. Same thing happened for the last few iPhone releases.
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Pixel has an estimated ship date of November 24. Guess we'll see if I can hold out that long or end up cancelling the order and getting an Axon7...
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Kerbtree posted:Did you have to use 3d-secure? If not, you just put through a big Card Not Present transaction coded as high value electronics. Puts it high up the suspicious scale to begin with. If they ran the transaction at the small hours of the morning, even more so. Didn't have to use any additional security stuff. Funny thing is it went through without a hitch with my wife's credit card. Important part is it's processing now 
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MMD3 posted:How long until Trillian resurfaces to group all other chat products together again?
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It's awesome to get your mother and mother-in-law successfully hooked on using Hangouts for everything, only for them to get confused about it not working for SMS anymore. I fear they'll never trust software again
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Oct 19, 2016 11:28
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Sir Lemming posted:I fear they'll never trust software again Sounds like you taught them well.
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Oct 19, 2016 11:37
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Wait, what the hell is this? I added a Facebook account, but it just asked for my name, no other credentials. I would say this seems like a joke application, but it's been mentioned by Lifehacker, Wired, Make Use Of, etc. Edit: nevermind, I just didn't explore enough (and it's not terribly intuitive).
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Oct 19, 2016 12:19
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In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mZAQzjtREKg This should be interesting to watch!
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Really, that's fine. Unless you want to do a dirty flash of a system image (and that usually causes more problems than it fixes), there's no reason to run around with the bootloader unlocked all the time. Unlock it when you need to and relock when done.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:18
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bull3964 posted:Really, that's fine. Unless you want to do a dirty flash of a system image (and that usually causes more problems than it fixes), there's no reason to run around with the bootloader unlocked all the time. Unlock it when you need to and relock when done. My user data 
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Oct 19, 2016 13:27
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nimper posted:In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. How dare google not want people running hacked insecure operating systems to handle sensitive credit card and financial transactions. The nerve!
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Oct 19, 2016 13:34
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Jerk McJerkface posted:How dare google not want people running hacked insecure operating systems to handle sensitive credit card and financial transactions. The nerve! Or just wanting to flash a completely stock image provided by google?
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Oct 19, 2016 13:38
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Skarsnik posted:Or just wanting to flash a completely stock image provided by google? You can still do that, just re-lock when you are done. Flashing OTAs don't require an unlocked bootloader and if you are flashing a full system image, you pretty much need to wipe anyways.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:48
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I literally just used Android Pay on my stock but unlocked Nexus 6, no trouble at all. SafetyNet helper shows CTS profile match: false though. Edit: Pokémon Go is fine too. Rusty! fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oct 19, 2016 13:52
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nimper posted:In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. It sucks but that was announced a while ago. It's the right decision.
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nimper posted:In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. This is the correct thing to do.
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nimper posted:In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. Well that's stupid
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Oct 19, 2016 15:22
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LastInLine posted:It sucks but that was announced a while ago. It's the right decision. I don't disagree; it just comes as a surprise as now I have to re-lock and set up this phone again if I want to use Android Pay or play pokemen. Really, I doubt I would have ever taken advantage of having the unlocked bootloader but it was nice to have the option if necessary.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:24
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bull3964 posted:Verizon seems to be throwing their full support behind it too which is good for me. For example, the native Android visual voicemail appears to be working just fine from what some people were posting on Reddit. I'm expecting wifi calling to show up eventually too. Soooo...does this mean it native VVM should work on the 5x/6p? Or is that another special snowflake feature for the Pixel.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:28
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Don't really know yet. Verizon has always been weird with their visual voice mail. They relied the phone manufacturers to make the app. I don't have my Nexus 5x line setup with voicemail at all at this point so I don't know how it acts. I know it didn't work in the past, but I haven't tried since 7.0 I uninstalled the Moto voicemail app from MXP and called myself and left a voicemail to see if the system would handle it natively. An interesting thing happened, I got the same sort of prompt you get with Allo when you get a message without having the app installed. The notification gave me a choice to either listen to the voicemail or gave me a link to install the moto voicemail app from the store. I know they discontinued the paid "premium" tier which allowed higher message storage back in July. It seems like removing that feature (which required the app to support upgrading to premium) might have been the first step to standardizing the visual voice mail.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:44
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nimper posted:In another case of Google being Google, a device with an unlocked bootloader (but otherwise unmodified) will no longer pass Safetynet checks. What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet?
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Oct 19, 2016 15:45
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Tamba posted:What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet? I'm sure XDA has their best people on it.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:46
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Tamba posted:What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet? What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with and stealing personal data and sending it off to the NSA? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet?
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Oct 19, 2016 15:50
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Jerk McJerkface posted:What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with and stealing personal data and sending it off to the NSA? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet?
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Endless Mike posted:They generally go to China or Russia, but I suppose the NSA could be doing this, as well. Probably not, the NSA would just ask Google.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:54
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Pixel XL 128 arrives tomorrow according to FedEx.
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Moey posted:Pixel XL 128 arrives tomorrow according to FedEx. Did you order from Verizon or the Google store? (guessing Verizon since it's FedEx)
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Oct 19, 2016 16:35
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Moey posted:Pixel XL 128 arrives tomorrow according to FedEx. What was your date on the order? I ordered the day after the launch, and it says: Pending October 26 – 28, 2016. Is that date the ship date or estimated arrival? Also where is it shipping from?
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Oct 19, 2016 16:37
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bull3964 posted:Did you order from Verizon or the Google store? (guessing Verizon since it's FedEx) For the record, my Nexus 6P came via Fedex too. Could be Google Store. My Pixel XL 128 (Google Store) changed from "Pending" to "Processing" today.
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Tamba posted:What's stopping a rooted device from just intercepting whatever safetynet is doing and making it reply that the device hasn't been tampered with? Is this already a thing or has no one bothered making something like this yet? Edit: Since shipping chat is so exciting, I am also expecting my Pixel XL tomorrow (from Google Store UK). Tunga fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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bull3964 posted:Did you order from Verizon or the Google store? (guessing Verizon since it's FedEx) Google store only uses FedEx. In my area at least. I know quite well because most of my FedEx packages get stolen because they are so incredibly lazy with shipping.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:What was your date on the order? I ordered the day after the launch, and it says: Pending October 26 – 28, 2016. Is that date the ship date or estimated arrival? bull3964 posted:Did you order from Verizon or the Google store? (guessing Verizon since it's FedEx) It was ordered through Verizon (due to my work scenario). It was ordered last week, picked up by FedEx in Memphis this morning.
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Tunga posted:Google provide an endpoint to validate SafetyNet responses are genuine. So the app asks for the SafetyNet details via Google Play Services, sends the response to its own server and then has the server validate with Google that these details actually came from SafetyNet. From a security point of view, especially considering financial data, you have to expect 100% end to end security with no unknown points. The bootloader being unlocked opens the phone up to unknown variables that Google would be fooling to just go "eh whatever credit card data is fine". I'm also betting the decision was not Googles, but was instead from the credit card or pay processors.
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ilkhan posted:Its the complete lack of documentation or whatever that fucks everything up. Especially if retention is *that* poor. There used to be a dedicated internals documentation team; I was on it. Wildly overstretched, of course.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:From a security point of view, especially considering financial data, you have to expect 100% end to end security with no unknown points. The bootloader being unlocked opens the phone up to unknown variables that Google would be fooling to just go "eh whatever credit card data is fine". I'm also betting the decision was not Googles, but was instead from the credit card or pay processors. As someone with a bootloader unlocked 6P I totally approve of Google making this change. Even as a developer I no longer have any need for an unlocked bootloader. The only thing left that I needed it for was flashing preview builds and Google sorted that with the Android Beta Program. I won't be unlocking my Pixel bootloader tomorrow. The last time I had a device with a locked bootloader was my HTC Desire which was my first ever Android device (and even that that lasted about a month before I discovered XDA/MoDaCo/etc.) Tunga fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Jerk McJerkface posted:What was your date on the order? I ordered the day after the launch, and it says: Pending October 26 – 28, 2016. Is that date the ship date or estimated arrival?
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Moey posted:Pixel XL 128 arrives tomorrow according to FedEx. Lucky. 32GB for both models and 128GB seem to be shipping in Canada, but there are no 128GB XL models to be seen 
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Quadrapellegiance posted:the LG V20, thoughts? I'm hoping it has an unlocked bootloader and root is easy to get. Google does 0% financing I think. If you qualify for Next, you'll probably qualify for Googles thing.
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bull3964 posted:Don't really know yet. I'm pretty sure verizon visual voicemail is still unavailable for for nexus devices. It annoys me.
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