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World Rally is very bad. World Rallycross is very good.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:45
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I'm actually going to confess that for whatever reason I find rallycross boring as poo poo
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Oct 17, 2016 18:48
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Aside from the start I tend to find Rallycross races boring as well
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Oct 17, 2016 19:19
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Someone has their difficulty settings turned way too low.julian assflange posted:Aside from the start I tend to find Rallycross races boring as well But when they do have something happen after the start, it's always amazingly good. Slickdrac fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 19:28
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Rallycross would be better if it had thoughtfulness and consistency on joker lanes. A lot of the time they just feel like they laid down a cone in that extra bit of asphalt over there and went "hey look, a joker lane!!!" There needs to more to it other than guys at the back take it early, guys up front take it late. For example, it could be a short, fast bypass around a complex slow section that guarantees speed will be carried into a passing zone so a large gap can be made up more quickly. Or you could make the joker much more hazardous than the normal route, such as burying it in sand or flooding it with water/mud. You get one chance to get it right, or there goes your race.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:51
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WindyMan posted:Meanwhile, in Rallycross WRC did it first  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBWwzJ4mWUA But I agree, modern rallying is dull.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:56
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Alain Post posted:I'm actually going to confess that for whatever reason I find rallycross boring as poo poo I want to like rallycross so much and I just cannot make myself care even a little bit
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Oct 17, 2016 22:13
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Just caught up with WEC; finally some redemption for Toyota. Great race too.
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Oct 17, 2016 22:18
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The V8 Supercars have thrown out Triple 8/Red Bull's protest over Whincup's penalty from the Bathurst 1000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/10/19/whincups-bathurst-appeal-dismissed/ Of course Triple 8 have taken the protest to the FIA. Bunch of sooks.
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Oct 18, 2016 23:42
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WRC died when McRae left Subaru
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Oct 19, 2016 02:06
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WRC died when the French became involved with it and moved it away from having production AWD cars to cars specifically made for WRC
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Oct 19, 2016 04:01
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You Am I posted:WRC died when the French became involved with it and moved it away from having production AWD cars to cars specifically made for WRC The French ruin everything
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Oct 19, 2016 06:13
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And the Corsica rally
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Oct 19, 2016 09:40
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As much as I like the guys like McRae and Sainz, WRC should have always been a car-focused series rather than a star-driver focused series. People remember the Impreza, Lancer Evo, and the Celica GT-Four. Who the hell is going to remember the Hyundai i20 in ten years time?
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Oct 19, 2016 16:21
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Nobody even remembers the i20 now.
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Oct 19, 2016 16:23
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WRC died when they went from idiosyncratic events of endurance with character to easily digestible homogeneous events designed to placate the Television Gods.
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Oct 19, 2016 16:28
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Pablo Bluth posted:WRC died when they went from idiosyncratic events of endurance with character to easily digestible homogeneous events designed to placate the Television Gods. Yup. It's stupid that WEC can sell a long endurance format fairly successfully but WRC just bitches and moans about how the stages need to be 30 seconds long and the team gets cranky if they're not in bed by 8pm.
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Oct 19, 2016 16:32
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Human Grand Prix posted:Nobody even remembers the i20 now. Really the emphasis on attracting more manufacturers with the World Rally Car is what did it. Completely removed the homogolation special element of the sport for what, the SEAT Cordoba? the Hyundai Accent? (The Skoda Octavia is still cool though)
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Oct 19, 2016 16:48
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also the WRC coverage used to be good, but now seems to be bad. at least the coverage i have access to.
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Oct 19, 2016 16:54
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Alain Post posted:Really the emphasis on attracting more manufacturers with the World Rally Car is what did it. Completely removed the homogolation special element of the sport for what, the SEAT Cordoba? the Hyundai Accent? yet another example of homologation being Cool and Good
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Oct 19, 2016 16:57
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Cygni posted:also the WRC coverage used to be good, but now seems to be bad. at least the coverage i have access to. what coverage?
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Oct 19, 2016 17:03
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wicka posted:what coverage? yeah, also that
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Oct 19, 2016 17:21
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WRC actually has a streaming service but you get like, four stages live and it's usually a lovely super-special at that.
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Oct 19, 2016 17:22
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1500quidporsche posted:Yup. It's stupid that WEC can sell a long endurance format fairly successfully but WRC just bitches and moans about how the stages need to be 30 seconds long and the team gets cranky if they're not in bed by 8pm. Maaaaaybe. I'm the world's biggest WEC booster but I'd be surprised if they have more than 50k subscribers and their US TV ratings are worse than Indycar iirc.
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Oct 19, 2016 17:24
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They play WRC on TV in the US? News to me. They did a decent show on Speed back in the day.
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Oct 19, 2016 17:29
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drgitlin posted:Maaaaaybe. I'm the world's biggest WEC booster but I'd be surprised if they have more than 50k subscribers and their US TV ratings are worse than Indycar iirc. WEC has the built in handicap of being on Fox Sports, who seemingly have a vendetta against endurance racing given what I read about their WEC and IMSA coverage.
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Oct 19, 2016 17:32
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njsykora posted:WEC has the built in handicap of being on Fox Sports, who seemingly have a vendetta against endurance racing given what I read about their WEC and IMSA coverage. Its real bad (TM)
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Oct 19, 2016 18:13
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I stream it from FSGO and I don't think it's too bad. Video quality is typically excellent. They didn't bother with commercials during the last round at Fuji either.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:52
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George Zimmer posted:I stream it from FSGO and I don't think it's too bad. Video quality is typically excellent. They didn't bother with commercials during the last round at Fuji either. For the portions of the race when it wasn't also being broadcast on FS1/FS2, it was pretty cool since it was just a straight feed from the official WEC feed. However, when it was also being broadcast on FS1/FS2, they scaled the pic to add their little crawler thing at the bottom and cut to commercials way too often.
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Oct 19, 2016 20:01
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Watching the goldcoast v8 supercars now, Tander did a massive PIT maneuver on Coultard down the straight at about 250km/hr E: Someones already uploaded a screen capture, doesn't show how many times Tander hit the rear before the hit that turned him, he banged into him at least 3 times beforehand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHt-1m4b1ds Fo3 fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 07:12
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While I'm happy with the penalty Tander got (drive through penalty, 10 grid spots for tomorrow), I do kind of agree with Skaife's analysis that Coulthard did have a portion of the blame - although nowhere near 50/50 like Skaife was saying, more like 90/10. edit: Helicopter shot is the most damning of Tander, and because of the curve of the track it's the only vision that doesn't give an optical illusion of Coulthard squeezing him. Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 07:41
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Skaife used to run the HRT team as well as race for them, so his analysis of that incident should be ignored.
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Oct 22, 2016 08:27
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I think Tander & HRT have read the mood of pit lane overnight and are much more contrite today (and no appeal was lodged).
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Oct 23, 2016 01:48
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A condensed 2 hour broadcast of bathurst is about to start on CBS Sports if you got nothing to do until F1 comes on
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Oct 23, 2016 17:59
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So remember the MacNeil's who got pissy that the Porsche was BoP'd down and went to Pirelli World Challenge, well they're coming back with their own team... kind of. Rumor says it'll be the WeatherTech team which is most likely going to partner with the Riley team which one of the drivers Marc Miller said he'll race what he sells which is Mercedes. Now with Alex Job, it's all up in the air.
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Oct 25, 2016 02:31
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And there's fire for the smoke -- apparently another Riley customer, Ben Keating with the Viper through this year, will also be running a Mercedes AMG-GT next year out of Riley's stable. So a two-team GTD operation, and possibly more. Not bad.
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Oct 25, 2016 13:20
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Double post, but Audi has confirmed they're leaving WEC and LMP1. Link: https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/press-releases/audi-with-new-motorsport-strategy-formula-e-instead-of-wec-6980 quote:Audi is realigning its motorsport strategy. The premium brand will terminate its FIA WEC commitment, including the 24 Hours of Le Mans, at the end of the 2016 season. Instead Audi is taking up a factory-backed commitment in the all-electric Formula E racing series.
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Oct 26, 2016 11:44
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15 years (at least) is a pretty good run for a manufacturer in any series
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Oct 26, 2016 12:20
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someone tell this moron http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/why-im-so-tired-of-the-annual-rumor-that-audi-is-quitti-1787821470
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Oct 26, 2016 12:23
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Don't be sad it's over, be happy it happened. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/10/audis-legendary-le-mans-program-to-end-in-2016/ Actually, it's OK to be sad.
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