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Mel Mudkiper posted:Speaking of vilerat, does anyone feel kind of awkward when Benghazi comes up around family because of his role in the forums? Like, we sort of knew the dude, but we didn't really know the dude, but we at least knew him better than everyone using him as a political prop. I always feel weird about it, and am now sure how to react. No different than when spree shootings come up after that nutcase asked TFR about ammo and poo poo
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Reminder, after then RNC, a talking head literally mention pony and actually quoted an episode line(of course the context was that it was an Inception go into the dream world deal and-OHMYFUCKINGGODFUCKDONNIEFORMAKINGMLPAFOOTNOTEINCOLLEGEHISTORYTEXTBOOKSFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU)
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mdemone posted:Hell, I don't even know if you can develop them or if you're born with it. To me it's not quite about power or ambition, but I can't exactly put my finger on what I feel that it is most/all Presidents have had in common. Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. Has anyone here ever met a president?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Speaking of vilerat, does anyone feel kind of awkward when Benghazi comes up around family because of his role in the forums? Like, we sort of knew the dude, but we didn't really know the dude, but we at least knew him better than everyone using him as a political prop. I always feel weird about it, and am now sure how to react. I mentioned it when she was on during the RNC. I only mentioned it to give the context of "Yeah, the dude was a huge leftist and pretty much hated his mother because she was a right wing conspiracy nut" and that he moderated the politics forum on a dead comedy site and started a "crazy forwards from family" thread. I wanted to let them in on the irony of watching someone become the very thing they fought against.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. Presidential candidate! ... Of Peru!
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Presidential candidate! Haha how was it?
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RuanGacho posted:This forum knew vilerats mind better than his mother did, but I find it distasteful to discuss him in general, as the GOPs behavior is pretty much the anthesis of Rest In Peace and I don't advocate encouraging it. It's an interesting observation, though-- such requests to let the dead rest in peace are really only privileged in our political discourse if they come from people with personal stake, such as friends and relatives. Not that the requests of friends and relatives are necessarily honored either; Stevens' mom and Vilerat's wife have both been very emphatic about the grossness of using Benghazi as a weapon. Like I said earlier, the speed at which previous appearances of decorum have fallen apart over the last eight years is really astonishing.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. I've often thought that it's actually APD-spectrum stuff. Most sociopaths have perfectly normal family lives, and so on.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Haha how was it? We briefly talked about books It was Mario Vargas Llosa 
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Crain posted:I mentioned it when she was on during the RNC. I only mentioned it to give the context of "Yeah, the dude was a huge leftist and pretty much hated his mother because she was a right wing conspiracy nut" and that he moderated the politics forum on a dead comedy site and started a "crazy forwards from family" thread. DailyDot had an article about that not long after the RNC.
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g0del posted:Ailes has a really lazy half-windsor knot for someone who presumable wears a tie more than once every few years. In his defense that's probably the best his aides could get straightened before the pic after he tried to strangle himself with it
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Quorum posted:It's an interesting observation, though-- such requests to let the dead rest in peace are really only privileged in our political discourse if they come from people with personal stake, such as friends and relatives. Not that the requests of friends and relatives are necessarily honored either; Stevens' mom and Vilerat's wife have both been very emphatic about the grossness of using Benghazi as a weapon. Like I said earlier, the speed at which previous appearances of decorum have fallen apart over the last eight years is really astonishing. It's primarily because the guy running on one side right now has absolutely none. Zero. To him, rules other people follow because that's an agreed upon norm of behavior (but that aren't accompanied by immediate punative consequences) don't exist and people are stupid for following them. I'm really glad that attitude is losing him the race so far.
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Its kind of interesting because you know if there was a grieving mother on the left and her dead son had a bunch of internet history exposing himself as a hardcore right-winger, the GOP would have dug that up and paraded it around in a second. In a second.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:You mean the only people who matter? If Patty Smith goes on a tirade during the debate the story could easily be about a grief stricken mom regardless of whether Hillary's answer is acceptable or not.
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I've always felt that "Birther Queen" was something you should expect to find at the end of a Resident Evil game.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Speaking of vilerat, does anyone feel kind of awkward when Benghazi comes up around family because of his role in the forums? Like, we sort of knew the dude, but we didn't really know the dude, but we at least knew him better than everyone using him as a political prop. I always feel weird about it, and am now sure how to react. I usually mention his name, and the fact that we goon folks as a group put up his kids' college fund, and that's pretty much killed crappy Thanksgiving table benghazi chat.
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So who's Trump's mystery guest? Keefe? A 19 year old black man from Illinois? Bill's 'son'? The woman who said Hillary assaulted her? That fixer from the Enquirer? The body of Vince Foster?
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haveblue posted:I've always felt that "Birther Queen" was something you should expect to find at the end of a Resident Evil game. see also: DeviantArt fetish
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Longish read, but a good read of an interview with Naomi Klein and Glen Greenwald about the journalistic ethics of covering a lot of the poo poo wikileaks is upto these days: https://theintercept.com/2016/10/19/is-disclosure-of-podestas-emails-a-step-too-far-a-conversation-with-naomi-klein Highlight is her very mild zinging of him for devoting significant resources to covering several gross violations of privacy, while building himself up as the lone defender of such: quote:"The other thing I would say is I think there’s a particular responsibility for you as a journalist — and others at The Intercept — because you’re the ones who brought us the Snowden files, and I am one of many people who are tremendously grateful for that line in the sand about our rights to electronic privacy. You are one of three or four people in the world who have done the most to defend that principle for our electronic communications — because we live our lives online, we can’t distinguish that from our right to privacy, period. These leaks are not, in my opinion, in the same category as the Pentagon Papers or previous WikiLeaks releases like the trade documents they continue to leak, which I am tremendously grateful for, because those are government documents that we have a right to, that are central to democracy. There are many things in that category." size1one posted:If Patty Smith goes on a tirade during the debate the story could easily be about a grief stricken mom regardless of whether Hillary's answer is acceptable or not. That literally won't be allowed to happen (1) and (2) she did that during the RNC.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. Former President, George HW was in town eating at the same Chinese restaurant when I was a little tyke and shook my hand. It made my week. 
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Furnaceface posted:Replace the live audience with muppets. I'd laugh. Then probably drink myself to death.
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Fangz posted:So who's Trump's mystery guest? John Miller.
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New Quinnipiac poll has Hillary up 7, and considering it's built in Republicsn bias it will probably be adjusted to +8 or 9. So that makes over half dozen polls released over the last 48 hours that has Hillary up at least 7 points. And over half have her up over 10.
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Fangz posted:So who's Trump's mystery guest? It's one of Hillary's lizard spawn who's gone rogue, it'll expose her as the Lizard Matriarch in return for the right to kill her and take her place at the head of the globe-spanning brood.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:but legit you guys if I get killed by a brown person I am asking all of you to go out there and tell the world I was a lefty commie mother fucker and don't want any racist poo poo done in my name Unironically same
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I mean, Trump's wild flailing is because he's realized, even in his dumb lizard brain, he can't beat Clinton in an actual debate. He's hoping to de-legitimize it the same way he is the election as a whole because he knows he's losing.
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size1one posted:If Patty Smith goes on a tirade during the debate the story could easily be about a grief stricken mom regardless of whether Hillary's answer is acceptable or not. Don't care (beyond the issue of the decorum of such a thing), and it doesn't matter (because this poo poo is OVAH)
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Quorum posted:It's one of Hillary's lizard spawn who's gone rogue, it'll expose her as the Lizard Matriarch in return for the right to kill her and take her place at the head of the globe-spanning brood. And then she'll disembowel it and mount its carcass on the podium as an example to other overly optimistic usurpers.
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Night10194 posted:I mean, Trump's wild flailing is because he's realized, even in his dumb lizard brain, he can't beat Clinton in an actual debate. He's hoping to de-legitimize it the same way he is the election as a whole because he knows he's losing. Yeah my concern at this point is about repairing the integrity of our electoral system after his tantrum is over in November. I hope the GOP as a whole has enough respect for our democracy as a legacy and institution to try and restore dignity to their side of politics soon ... ... oh god we're hosed aren't we
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GreyjoyBastard posted:And then she'll disembowel it and mount its carcass on the podium as an example to other overly optimistic usurpers. May her descendants be belligerent and numerous, and death come swiftly to her foes!
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah my concern at this point is about repairing the integrity of our electoral system after his tantrum is over in November. That particular finish line is several laps behind us.
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Fangz posted:So who's Trump's mystery guest? https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/788795440800075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw He's literally going Full Springer. This is going to be batshit insane and ugly.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. my dad once had george hw bush make a campaign stop at his workplace in 1992. also i was once personally inconvenienced by president obama because i had to go up to fotokem to get some film processed for a film class, and obama was going to be on the tonight show that night and so the burbank police closed off half of the streets around the nbc lot for security reasons. so i had to go somewhere else to get my film telecine'd since they were going to close down the road that fotokem was on later that day and i wouldn't have had time.
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OAquinas posted:https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/788795440800075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw So, what does the debate commission do, exactly? They shot down his dumb 'WE'LL YELL BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST WHO RAPES' moment last time. Do they just deny these guests or something?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. Richard Nixon.  But I was five and he died a few months later, so I can't really comment on his charisma.
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