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Calaveron posted:What was the point of the fly BlackPersona posted:We get confirmation that dead bugs have ghosts. That's about it. Though I still don't understand why Zarei was so interested in it.
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The fly was possessed by Hijack which is one of Zarei's creations; its death means Hijack has now vanished, with the kids and spender now harassing random hapless teachers. Or it was a brick joke.
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My general impression is that for some reason Zarei was confused after coming out of spirit-time and thought the fly was Patchworm, and was afraid of its being hurt. Why that would happen or why it would be relevant, I don't know.
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I think we just don't know what's going on there yet¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I think the point was to show that Zarei values all life.
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Fecha posted:I think we just don't know what's going on there yet¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/788382761505742848 That seems to be the case.
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I think the best assumption we can make about the fly is that it was one of the experiments she was worried about.
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Hey remember when there were hopes poo poo would start happening again once we got out of hitball? I like Zack but this really should have been reserved for the next book.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:06
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No this scene is v good
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its good but the timing is off is all like putting dessert after the appetizer but before the main course, like yeah you can do that and each individual course is still gonna be tasty but something went wrong there
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Oct 19, 2016 02:22
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Mazerunner posted:its good but the timing is off is all Yeah, I'm not saying the scene is bad... it's just better for the start of the next chapter, not right now when we were in the middle of actually maybe resolving this one after a year of Hitball.
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Mazerunner posted:its good but the timing is off is all Well that's a matter of opinion.
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Tunicate posted:Well that's a matter of opinion. No it's a matter of pacing. And the pacing for this chapter has been awful. We have officially been going on longer than the train and we're hardly any further from where the chapter opened.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:31
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The curse of unedited serial fiction.
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Onmi posted:No it's a matter of pacing. And the pacing for this chapter has been awful. We have officially been going on longer than the train and we're hardly any further from where the chapter opened. Personally I enjoy the lazy pacing of this small town comic.
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Onmi posted:No it's a matter of pacing. And the pacing for this chapter has been awful. We have officially been going on longer than the train and we're hardly any further from where the chapter opened. "My opinions are objective, and absolute"
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Onmi posted:No it's a matter of pacing. And the pacing for this chapter has been awful. We have officially been going on longer than the train and we're hardly any further from where the chapter opened. Well that's subjective!
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Oct 19, 2016 03:34
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It's ok zack will publish the book with tear out pages and you can order it however you want
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Countblanc posted:i stand with omni
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I mean I recognize the daunting challenges of real-time pacing with a longform webcomic and I cannot say I would do better if put in the same situation as Zack, but it's fair to say that Paranatural, as charming as it is, has not managed to overcome them.
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majormonotone posted:"My opinions are objective, and absolute" Autistically pedantic enough?
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I hope the next chapter straight up involves going to a fireworks factory so people can go all out
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I don't mind if Zach if having some trouble working out the storyline at the school, and is using this scene to give him some time to do that. I agree with everyone else that this scene is pretty good. I just wish it could be an official interlude instead of just being awkwardly lopped into the middle of Chapter 5.
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You guys are gonna look so foolish in a couple pages when Mr. Garcia ambles casually through this date scene, an exhausted Isaac still stalking him.
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Chapters are fake. Probably the best way to insulate pacing against inconsistencies in inspiration is by having a huge buffer of strips, and that can come at the cost of spontaneity and reaction.
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Bongo Bill posted:Chapters are fake. The best story-based webcomics, in terms of both art/writing quality and consistency, invariably have large buffers. It's worth the cost.
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the best story based webcomics are: 1) paranatural 2) uh 3) um. 4) 
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oddium posted:the best story based webcomics are: How soon we forget webcomic juggernaut Dominic Deegan Real answer: It Hurts.
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Gunnerkrigg Court is still pretty good and so is Cucumber Quest. I haven't read Unsounded in the longest time but that was also pretty legit.
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gunnerkrigg is pretty powerful if not as charismatic as paranatural and it's got a multiple-month mwf buffer iirc
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oddium posted:the best story based webcomics are: Unsounded, Stand Still Stay Silent, Gunnerkrigg, Evan Dahm's work. That's what jumps to mind from my short list, at least. Paranatural is not a good story based webcomic. It's very funny and energetic and its dialogue and art is top-notch, but it's crap at actually telling a story. e: in fact, the way it approaches narrative reminds me of Hanna is Not a Boy's Name more than anything else right now, and that is not a flattering comparison. Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oxxidation posted:Unsounded, Stand Still Stay Silent, Gunnerkrigg, Evan Dahm's work. That's what jumps to mind from my short list, at least. i disagree 👼
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oddium posted:the best story based webcomics are: Demon's Mirror. It even has an ending! Mystic Mongol fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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My MS Paint Adventures avatar and I heard y'all are discussing pacing issues in a webcomic where each individual update is good but the overall story structure is expanding unsustainably, paired with a habit of constantly switching perspectives when action is just spinning up and regularly expanding the cast/scope? I'll try to think of some relevant comparisons... For real though, one of the challenges of writing is "killing your darlings", meaning editing out self-indulgent parts - even if they're very good parts! - for the sake of the overall story. One of the challenges of the webcomic format to writing large, ambitious stories (as opposed to something more episodic or just serialized arcs) is you don't really have a chance for proper editing passes and the long-term skeleton of the story you sketch out when you first start doesn't give you a good sense of what will work, how long different sections will take, and how your thoughts on your work will change over time. It's not a fatal problem and some authors or stories adapt to it better than others, but it's not unfair to acknowledge it. One simple editing suggestion might've been to make Hitball the whole chapter and just end it with Hijack escaping Jeff after the game but the Activity Club having no idea where he got to. If they need to track him down in the school and learn more about the teachers, have them do it the next day (and next chapter) to give everyone a breather, because as-is it's tricky to remember stuff that was introduced near the start of this chapter that's meant to be paying off now and in the scenes to come.
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Dolash posted:One of the challenges of the webcomic format to writing large, ambitious stories (as opposed to something more episodic or just serialized arcs) is you don't really have a chance for proper editing passes and the long-term skeleton of the story you sketch out when you first start doesn't give you a good sense of what will work, how long different sections will take, and how your thoughts on your work will change over time. It's not a fatal problem and some authors or stories adapt to it better than others, but it's not unfair to acknowledge it. I mean theoretically you could go back and edit it after it's done, although the star wars controversy suggests this might not be a great idea unless you can bring yourself to not attempt to eradicate all evidence of the original draft.
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Oxxidation posted:The best story-based webcomics, in terms of both art/writing quality and consistency, invariably have large buffers. It's worth the cost. At some point I think he really needs to take a month or two off updating the comic to create a buffer, which would also give him time to plan things out better. Sure we won't get Paranatural for a while, but when it comes back we won't have missed updates because he was busy with his life outside the comic unless he just keeps eating into his buffer forever.
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VerdantSquire posted:I don't mind if Zach if having some trouble working out the storyline at the school, and is using this scene to give him some time to do that. I agree with everyone else that this scene is pretty good. I just wish it could be an official interlude instead of just being awkwardly lopped into the middle of Chapter 5. So pretend that it is an official interlude. It's not like Zach is going to break into your home and make you taste the curb if you do. Also echoing that you should just ignore the fact that chapters exist.
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It might be better to think of the Chapters as part of one Day/Night cycle rather than actual chapters, from what I've seen. So Chapter 1 would be Day 1 (Well, two days and one night considering the parts where the Pucketts move in), Chapter 2 would be Night 1, Chapter 3 is Day 2, etc.
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I genuinely forgot there were chapters for a bit and I still feel the pacing feels a bit off. If writing cute and charming character scenes is Zack's way of working through writer's block then more power to him, but I'm not going to say that this charm doesn't come at the cost of pacing.
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