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Gunnerkrigg Court, Kill Six Billion Demons, Cucumber Quest, Paranatural, etc.
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The pacing is bad, and that's okay as long as Zack learns from it. Also this thread gets weirdly defensive about constructive criticism even though we're all coming from a place of love. 
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Oct 20, 2016 01:26
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Oh are we having pacing chat? I bet there are a lot of new ideas and opinonzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Oct 20, 2016 05:23
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:The pacing is bad, and that's okay as long as Zack learns from it. Also this thread gets weirdly defensive about constructive criticism even though we're all coming from a place of love. People generally are only getting defensive about it because it's been a recurrent complaint every few pages of this thread, justified or not it's less of a "how dare you" and more of a "god can we not start talking about that AGAIN," you know?
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Oct 20, 2016 06:19
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This wouldn't even be an issue if people would just admit the pacing sucked and shrugged it off
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Oct 20, 2016 06:28
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Serial fiction pacing rule #1: a significant plot beat needs to happen every update. There's a few webcomics that are great at that (Gunnerkrigg Court, Kill Six Billion Demons). You can take any given page and boil it down to a single sentence that advances the plot. A lot of the recent Paranatural pages haven't done this. What did the two and a half pages about the fly show us? The current page has a beat ("we used to come here, you know") but could have come three pages ago. Sure, the fly arc was whimsical and fun, but was it necessary? What did it add to the story?
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Oct 20, 2016 06:52
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blastron posted:Sure, the fly arc was whimsical and fun, but was it necessary? What did it add to the story? It added fun and whimsy.
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Oct 20, 2016 07:03
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Zach fairly obviously likes to make updates with funny character moments or neat art/setpieces even if it doesn't advance much! I think that's a pretty okay thing to do!blastron posted:Sure, the fly arc was whimsical and fun, but was it necessary? What did it add to the story? It added the question of what's up with the fly, which is intentionally supposed to be a weird/mysterious thing as mentioned by Zach on twitter when poked about it. It's currently unresolved, but is a setup for something in the far future. Compare with the really odd dog at the start of the chapter which on first blush just seemed to be some silly/dumb thing but turned out to be the first sign of the antagonist of the chapter so far.
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Oct 20, 2016 07:13
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quote:SHE CAN'T BE TRUSTED! *she giggles at me once* My father's family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I- Is it Doctor Zarei?
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Oct 20, 2016 11:09
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blastron posted:Serial fiction pacing rule #1: a significant plot beat needs to happen every update. There's a few webcomics that are great at that (Gunnerkrigg Court, Kill Six Billion Demons). You can take any given page and boil it down to a single sentence that advances the plot. A lot of the recent Paranatural pages haven't done this. What did the two and a half pages about the fly show us? The current page has a beat ("we used to come here, you know") but could have come three pages ago. I agree with you, but to be fair, I suspect the fly interaction will be more meaningful in hindsight and was probably a secret plot beat.
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Oct 20, 2016 14:06
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Nick_326 posted:https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/788382761505742848 lol just lol "flies are cool" - Zack keep on keepin on brotha
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Oct 20, 2016 19:42
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Poison Mushroom posted:Who is this mythical Pippip? Yeah, it's Zarei who starts telling her life's story (represented in the hovertext by the incipit of Great Expectations) to someone who she thought she couldn't trust with anything.
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Oct 20, 2016 22:11
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Update. Zarei, that's gross, don't do that.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:00
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The Zarei mysteries continue. Patchworm is the friendliest spirit that isn't encased in rock underground.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:05
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Have we seen the people in the foreground of panel one before? They seem remarkably detailed for throwaway characters if not.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:22
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smug n stuff posted:Have we seen the people in the foreground of panel one before? Cameos, according to the post text.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:29
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In his post Zack says they are a cameo from his friend's comic.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:31
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smug n stuff posted:Have we seen the people in the foreground of panel one before? https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/789571380006293504 Fake edit: drat, if only twitter things worked properly in the post preview. Real edit: Odd that the thing also brings along the tweet the linked tweet is replying to. Akett fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 00:36
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I really feel as though I'm missing some subtext to this conversation, and what neither of them are doing is making all that much sense to me.
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Oct 22, 2016 03:52
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I feel like we're supposed to care about these two characters but there is no reason to care for them at all. Blind girl was fawning all over formerly snake-like lady who had a personality that was a foil to most of the cast but is now basically Spender x1000 and just keeps losing her poo poo over anything blind girl does while her ghost friend keeps telling and repeating to us that awww shucks she's just such a softy inside and it's just bad and should probably move on to Isaac following that one teacher or Max and Isabella looking for Hijack or Ed being an annoying prick or the hints that PJ and Lefty are hanging out at school or Hijack controlling one of the teachers or the principal and the vice-principal being easily manipulated and conniving or journalist girl doing her journalism or whatever Johnny and his gang are up to or basically anything else that is more interesting than this poo poo
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Oct 22, 2016 05:42
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Axiem posted:I really feel as though I'm missing some subtext to this conversation, and what neither of them are doing is making all that much sense to me. Dr. Zarei is trying to reveal things about herself that aren't damaging to the secrets she's keeping with Richard DarkLightSephiroth. By revealing intimate moments from her past, she hopes to demonstrate that she's being open and trustworthy. It won't work because she got overheard when she tried to have a secret conversation under the table, but that's why she's talking about what she's talking about. She's turning funny colors and spitting water everywhere because she's in lurrrrrve but that's not subtext, that's just text. Meanwhile Lovespy Iforgothername is doing her inquisitive spy routine. By asking lots of friendly, innocent questions, with the occasional pointed barb, she's hiding the fact that she's heard enough to probably lock Dr. Zarei in jail forever. ....do the ghost cops have a jail? Or a justice system? Or any form of authority besides a mummy who visits them in their dreams?
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Oct 22, 2016 08:11
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Calaveron posted:I feel like we're supposed to care about these two characters but there is no reason to care for them at all. Blind girl was fawning all over formerly snake-like lady who had a personality that was a foil to most of the cast but is now basically Spender x1000 and just keeps losing her poo poo over anything blind girl does while her ghost friend keeps telling and repeating to us that awww shucks she's just such a softy inside and it's just bad and should probably move on to Isaac following that one teacher or Max and Isabella looking for Hijack or Ed being an annoying prick or the hints that PJ and Lefty are hanging out at school or Hijack controlling one of the teachers or the principal and the vice-principal being easily manipulated and conniving or journalist girl doing her journalism or whatever Johnny and his gang are up to or basically anything else that is more interesting than this poo poo I mean, liking the characters or this scene is your prerrogative but I think you misunderstood almost everything that happened in this interlude. Zarei was never the foil, she IS female Spender - plays it cool but is actually a fuckin' dork. Meanwhile Day is being flirtatious because  THAT'S LITERALLY HER THING HER INTRODUCTION WAS A FUCKIN CUPID ARROW ATTACK FFS and it's actually working against socially inept awkward nerd Zarei.
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Oct 22, 2016 13:53
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yeah zarei wasn't a foil, her introduction was just framed to not make her look like a dork immediately. i'm sure that given the right circumstances spender could just as easily seem powerful, mysterious, and interesting and then you realize he literally never takes off his sunglasses when you meet him at night
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Oct 22, 2016 15:46
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"I uh, have light sensitivity. Just like Kazuhira-senpai!"
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Oct 22, 2016 15:52
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Part of the problem, I think, is that everyone keeps using the word "dork", and I have no idea what that word means.
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Oct 22, 2016 15:53
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Axiem posted:Part of the problem, I think, is that everyone keeps using the word "dork", and I have no idea what that word means. Imagine what every goon was like aged 13. That's a dork.
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Oct 22, 2016 15:55
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Axiem posted:Part of the problem, I think, is that everyone keeps using the word "dork", and I have no idea what that word means. A dork is a dweeb. Zarei and Spender insta-lock Reaper on OW. This is why they have an uneasy relationship.
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Oct 22, 2016 15:58
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If you want to get specific, it's extremely soft/old slang for "penis". Now it just means someone who's goofy/corny/socially awkward or embarrassing, particularly if they themselves don't seem to notice or care.
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Oct 22, 2016 16:02
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zarei plays witch mercy and spender plays s76
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Oct 22, 2016 16:06
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Axiem posted:Part of the problem, I think, is that everyone keeps using the word "dork", and I have no idea what that word means. Here's a detailed explanation coming straight from 2002: 
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Oct 22, 2016 16:08
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Tollymain posted:zarei plays witch mercy and spender plays s76 Spender doesn't play S76, if he's not Reaper he's McCree. I'll give you grimdark support Zarei tho.
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Oct 22, 2016 16:12
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hear me out, spender is all about his mission that he refuses to actually tell anybody else the details of even when it's very clearly sort of impacting everybody else because it's "his responsibility" or some such bullshit
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Oct 22, 2016 16:20
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Come on people, a light theme? He's clearly a Symmetra slampicker who switches out to Reaper when the monster inside him tries to break out.
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Oct 22, 2016 20:21
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whenever i take joy in paranatural i can always rely on this thread to suck it right back out again
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Oct 22, 2016 21:48
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:whenever i take joy in paranatural i can always rely on this thread to suck it right back out again maybe you shouldn't come to this thread then
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Oct 22, 2016 22:19
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:whenever i take joy in paranatural i can always rely on this thread to suck it right back out again hell, same when you're here
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Oct 22, 2016 23:07
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:whenever i take joy STOP DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:in paranatural oh nvm, you good
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Oct 22, 2016 23:10
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paradoxGentleman posted:maybe you shouldn't come to this thread then It'd be better if the armchair editors wouldn't
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Oct 22, 2016 23:50
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Who What Now posted:armchair editors As opposed to
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Desk chair.
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