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Per Amanda Peacher it looks like we have this attorney's closing arguments, then another one's, then the government's rebuttal. Then the jury deliberations begin 
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I thought government already did rebuttal? Before defense?
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Bobulus posted:I thought government already did rebuttal? Before defense? quote:Three other defense lawyers are expected to present closing arguments in the afternoon, followed by an estimated 45-minute government rebuttal before the case goes to the jury for deliberations before day's end. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/conspiracy_charge_stretches_re.html#incart_river_home I guess the government gets to rebut the closing arguments?
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Nocturtle posted:From here:
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That reminds me: has a gold fringe come up in the proceedings at all?
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Rebuttal close is different than the rebuttal case. The government gets the last word. Government's first close is Spock "here's all the reasons the this guy is technically guilty." Rebuttal close is Kirk "what the defense attorney just told you is a bunch of bullshit. Here is why."
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chitoryu12 posted:"Yes, I understand that I broke into your house. But you were on a long trip to Europe, so it doesn't count!"
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Please please please tonight.
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Casimir Radon posted:Please please please tonight. I'm sure there will be an epic multiday deliberation session as the jurors struggle with their consciences. It will be 30 minutes tops
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I'm sure there will be an epic multiday deliberation session as the jurors struggle with their consciences.
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We can't close the thread tonight Cliven Bundy doesn't even have a court date, possibly. I googled this info half-assedly.
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Mods please change my name to Favio Minooggio or John Kilman. https://twitter.com/EileenParkTV/status/788904481979195392 I would blow Dane Cook has issued a correction as of 01:49 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass > C-SPAM > A jury is judging those Bundy hicks
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Who here has been following this since Bunkerville?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Who here has been following this since Bunkerville?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Who here has been following this since Bunkerville? I started following before we even got sumo guy and I was there for just about all the infamous moments, like when Agent Marc tried to lure them out of the tents with promises of warm armored cars and the first reports of a militant being shot filtered out from Twitter. Unfortunately the closure of the thread I was following kept me from catching up until a few weeks ago.
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Capntastic posted:Can't wait to see the thread title change Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass > C-SPAM > A jury is judging those Bundy hicks
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I've been around since the beginning-ish. This thread made me come out of lurking.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass > C-SPAM > Obama just pardoned 3/5th of those Bundy hicks
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lmao holy poo poo. https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/788953506732355584 The judge will just reject this, right? Or is she obligated to go through the motions?
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TotalLossBrain posted:lmao holy poo poo. Its garbage sovcit nonsense. This will elicit a one line "motion denied" response because there is nothing of merit.
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TotalLossBrain posted:lmao holy poo poo. This is a pro-click. She quotes loving Cicero as proof the judge is corrupt and should be dismissed, and since 99% of prosecution objections were sustained. They know this is the end. I hope Cox gets loving destroyed. I would blow Dane Cook posted:Who here has been following this since Bunkerville? I have been loosely following since Bunkerville, I.E. using women and children as human shields because they don't want to pay their fair share of grazing fees.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Who here has been following this since Bunkerville? I've just been really following since they took over the Malheur refuge. I was mildly aware of Bunkerville, and read some articles about their dumbassery and villainy there, but once they came to my state and started acting up then I really started paying attention.
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TotalLossBrain posted:lmao holy poo poo. It probably isn't timely even if it were meritorious, unless there is some claim that these facts shouldn't have been known to the defense earlier. She will probably go through some motions to protect the record. That doesn't mean there is any merit at all, but no one wants to retry this bullshit again.
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TotalLossBrain posted:lmao holy poo poo. Motion filed: The judge is a big ugly doody head Judge files ruling on motion: am not
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My favorite thing to do with sovcit filings is to file a motion that basically says "Judge, please line out all of this bullshit except for the three paragraphs where he admits to everything." I've never had it granted, because the system overcorrects to protect idiots from themselves, but it's always fun to have them freak out about a proposed redacted filing that basically says "I did it. - signed Defendant"
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Dr. Killjoy posted:David Fry is a Messianic Jew, which is a fancy term for Christian Evangelicals who engage in Hebrew cosplay  I'm gonna steal this and pretend I said it first so many loving times.
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Let's go around the table in the jury room after that defense, ready for deliberation, in the endless moment after getting seated and before anyone has broken the sacred silence hanging in the perfectly still air like crystal windchimes on a cold morning: Juror 1:  Juror 2:  Juror 3:  Juror 4:  Juror 5:  Juror 6:  Juror 7:  Juror 8:  Juror 9 is a constitutional law buff:   Juror 10:  Juror 11:  Juror 12:  Alternate 1:  Alternate 2:  Alternate 3: 
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God drat it, I am seriously concerned about a jury nullification. Bury these fuckers.
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TotalLossBrain posted:I am somehow fond of Juror 9.
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red19fire posted:God drat it, I am seriously concerned about a jury nullification. Bury these fuckers. I wouldn't be. We'll have a guilty verdict today most likely.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Who here has been following this since Bunkerville? I live in the (relatively) sane part of Nevada, but I have tons of friends/family in or around Vegas, so I was following it very closely from the start, mostly before it even broke nationally. It was pretty great to watch all faux rancher idiots I work with who live in half million dollar homes and drive around in spotless Rancher King Ford 450's talk about how this was going to be Obama's Waterloo and the start of the next great Revolution. Oddly enough they all stopped talking about it after Cliven's " here's the thing about them lazy negros" bon mot. After those two yahoos shot up a Walmart dressed in Gadsen Flags even the most ardent supporters didn't want anything to do with them. Opinions about Malheur were almost universally negative, everyone just thought they were idiots. There is a guy I see every now and then with a blue tarp flag but that's about it. When the dude in HR with a "BENGHAZI" bumper sticker thinks your occupation is pointless then you've got a problem.
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red19fire posted:God drat it, I am seriously concerned about a jury nullification. Bury these fuckers. It's strange that such a fundamental element of the justice system can be compromised if even a small minority of the population comes to accept jury nullification as legitimate. It would be difficult to prosecute even marginally popular defendants in that scenario. Fortunately the Bundys will never be popular.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass > C-SPAM > A jury is judging those Bundy hicks Sold.
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Pre-emptive mod request to retitle as "The Feds are currently housing and feeding those Bundy hicks" when the convictions start coming in.
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Is there a quick summary of how the defense went? I paid attention during the prosecution, but got distracted from following the trial due to the circus that is the Trump campaign.
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Nocturtle posted:It's strange that such a fundamental element of the justice system can be compromised if even a small minority of the population comes to accept jury nullification as legitimate. It would be difficult to prosecute even marginally popular defendants in that scenario. Fortunately the Bundys will never be popular. Yes. Jury nullification sucks; there just isn't a good way to prevent it.
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