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Poison Mushroom posted:If you get underneath the bedrock, don't you just fall forever? Perhaps, who actually surmises what is beyond the normally impossible?
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A dirtomancer that punches through bedrock could probably construct skymines. Perhaps out if said bedrock.
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Oct 17, 2016 10:11
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Poison Mushroom posted:If you get underneath the bedrock, don't you just fall forever? You're very clever, young man, but it's bedrock all the way down.
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Oct 17, 2016 10:29
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Every time I underestimate Don's intelligence, he swings back. He's a far better negotiator than given credit for because his one negotiation before now was against a man who he didn't have all the information on. It's interesting to watch him bait Charlie into giving him information for free, even if it's false information.
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Oct 19, 2016 07:34
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It's kind of interesting realizing how out of place Sizemore is among your average dirtamancers.
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Oct 19, 2016 13:52
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Benagain posted:It's kind of interesting realizing how out of place Sizemore is among your average dirtamancers. Design wise? Yeah, it is a bit strange, he did mention being very popular until Parson's gambits, but he does not look like what one would now think of the typical Dirtamancer.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:26
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Link to the new page
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Oct 19, 2016 16:04
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This still seems like a really bad idea from Don, given that "turned units have notoriously low loyalty".
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Oct 19, 2016 18:52
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:This still seems like a really bad idea from Don, given that "turned units have notoriously low loyalty". Is she turning though? Is she a barbarian caster employed by Faq as a mercenary, a Faq unit, or a Charliescomm unit?
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Oct 19, 2016 20:47
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She mentioned to be a free caster, so barbarian.
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Oct 19, 2016 20:50
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Also, maybe it's possible that the first caveat is that she must use her Turnamancy powers on herself to ensure her loyalty. Is that doable?
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Poison Mushroom posted:Also, maybe it's possible that the first caveat is that she must use her Turnamancy powers on herself to ensure her loyalty. Is that doable? Thinkamancers can improve a units loyalty to a side. Transylvito is currently in possession of two Thinkamancers, one of whom is master class. In short, if she turns, then Bunny can turn the screws and make her loyal to Transylvito, and Don gains another unit. If she refuses, he knows she's full of poo poo. Onmi fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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Oct 20, 2016 03:02
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:This still seems like a really bad idea from Don, given that "turned units have notoriously low loyalty". It's a somewhat contextual thing. That's generally in the context of "kidnapped an enemy warlord, stuck them in the dungeon until they turned." Very different from "barbarian caster formerly of a very closely allied side."
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Oct 20, 2016 03:54
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Don is stubborn and old-fashioned, but he's definitely not stupid. I'm actually kind of hoping that this whole ordeal changes his signamancy, because 'mafia don in a Hawaiian shirt' does not speak well for his long-term survival, especially not if he's going up against Charlie. I could see a tilt towards a Tony Soprano sort of deal either coming from him directly, or after a timeskip for whoever might end up on the throne after he's croaked (if he is).
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Oct 20, 2016 05:28
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205reignonyourparade posted:It's a somewhat contextual thing. That's generally in the context of "kidnapped an enemy warlord, stuck them in the dungeon until they turned." Very different from "barbarian caster formerly of a very closely allied side." Well at least Caesar agrees with me. 
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Oct 22, 2016 04:44
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The pace of progress is going from "glacial" to "interminable." By my count we have: 1) At least two plot threads in Transylvito, which admittedly seem to be converging 2) Stanley, Ace and co in Spacerock 3) Ivan and Claud on the run (and the reaction to that) 4) Wanda's trial 5) Charlie plotting 6) The Thinkamancers and their spell 7) Sizemore and Janis 8) Turmoil at home in FAQ 9) Jillian's attack Am I missing any? That's a lot of balls in the air and they seem to be getting short shrift. Who can forget the comic page that was just Stanley sitting bored in his office?
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Oct 28, 2016 23:07
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I get the same feeling from the story I got from Game of Thrones. The writer doesn't know when to stop writing new stuff and start finishing plotlines, but is now so overwhelmed he needs much more time to make it all fit, so buys time with filler.
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Oct 28, 2016 23:49
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This is all building up to the punchline n'erf.
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I still love that, as unquestionably OP as they are, the Great Minds are still so caught up in bureaucracy and so stuck up their own asses that they're fumbling to keep up with an Erf that's changing dramatically every tenturn.
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Hm. So, to what degree are Roger's agenda and the Great Minds' agenda the same and different?
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Rand Brittain posted:Hm. So, to what degree are Roger's agenda and the Great Minds' agenda the same and different? My guess: Great Minds want Charlie out of the picture cause he challenges their (secret) dominance of the magic kingdom. They'll go to great lengths to do this, working with Stanley and Parson. Roger wants back to the status quo before things got complicated by Arkentools. He wants to get rid of the troublemakers, manipulating his peers to make a return to his simpler life possible.
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Nov 2, 2016 07:52
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That gun fired faster than I thought it would.
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I'm sure I'm gonna get tired of Charlie's plans unraveling someday. But not yet. That's what happens when you don't do a Spy Check!
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Nov 9, 2016 02:39
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Odds of decryption?
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Nov 9, 2016 02:42
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Cat Mattress posted:Odds of decryption? Almost none, given that they're at the bottom of an undiggable hole with the wrench that let them dig it down at the bottom with them, the Arkenpliers are in Spacerock, and Wanda is a prisoner, and they'll both evaporate next turn.
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Nov 9, 2016 03:04
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I feel like I missed something here.
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btw there was another chapter that I didn't see posted, so some may've missed it. Seems this will be the kind of chapter that will only make complete sense in hindsight. Also leaks. Leaks everywhere.
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So, uh, did a unit somehow follow them in (a stealth doll?) or did the Thinkamancers decide to remotely cut their strings? I'm not clear on if that 'wide-eyed' spy in the last image there is supposed to be Charlie or the killer.?
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Bobulus posted:So, uh, did a unit somehow follow them in (a stealth doll?) or did the Thinkamancers decide to remotely cut their strings? I'm not clear on if that 'wide-eyed' spy in the last image there is supposed to be Charlie or the killer.? The little spy is Claud's action figure, which turned blue when Claud did.
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Rand Brittain posted:Almost none, given that they're at the bottom of an undiggable hole with the wrench that let them dig it down at the bottom with them, the Arkenpliers are in Spacerock, and Wanda is a prisoner, and they'll both evaporate next turn. Unless the action figure does whatever it is you do to keep the bodies from decaying, perhaps.
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We did literally just read about how Thinkamancers can remotely cut strings, and when you consider their situation, there are no real drawbacks to them doing so in this case and a lot of potential downsides if they did happen to get back to Charlie. It's not likely anyone will ever know what they did, either, though judging by Charlie's reaction he probably has some idea.
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I do wonder why they waited until Charlie turned them to cut the strings. To send a message? To send a team to retrieve the bodies in Charlie's livery? Maybe it somehow gave them plausible deniability with the scrying Charlie thought about earlier.
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It's probably exactly as Charlie feared. As free casters under contract they had plausible deniability. Once turned, I guess the Minds thought "welp that seals the deal" and nipped it in the bud.
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Masterstroke for the Minds, then, if they can get to the bodies or decide to reveal that they can Look beneath bedrock to show those casters in Charlescomm livery. That should pretty much do for Charlie if that happens.
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Most importantly, those two corpses represent incontrovertible evidence that Charlescomm is actively plotting against the magic kingdom, which is what the Minds lacked until now.
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A.o.D. posted:Most importantly, those two corpses represent incontrovertible evidence that Charlescomm is actively plotting against the magic kingdom, which is what the Minds lacked until now. Which, hilariously, is Charlie fulfilling his own prophecy by mistake. He prophecised that they would die. In turn he turned them to Charlescomm to protect them, which lead to the Minds likely killing them.
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A.o.D. posted:Most importantly, those two corpses represent incontrovertible evidence that Charlescomm is actively plotting against the magic kingdom, which is what the Minds lacked until now. Only if they can be exhibited as evidence. This will require either moving them out (which would preserve them) or otherwise allowing other casters to see them where they are. In the first case they need to replicate the ability to dig through bedrock to get at the bodies. Either they somehow take control of the action figure, and get it to use the wonky wrench; or they convince a dirtamancer and a carnimancer to link up with them to create a new wonky wrench. Alternatively some summoning spell (from a link with findamancers?) to teleport the bodies. Regardless of which unlikely scenario is used, the result is that the bodies are moved and therefore preserved, allowing them to be later decrypted. The second case is simpler but requires the Great Mind to reveal one of their closely guarded secrets. They might think that the outcome (allowing them to censure Charlie) will be worth it. In that situation the bodies will just disappear. Finally there is the "none of the above" scenario. The Great Mind don't have any evidence to show to the other independent casters, and the bodies disappear.
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Cat Mattress posted:Finally there is the "none of the above" scenario. The Great Mind don't have any evidence to show to the other independent casters, and the bodies disappear. None of the above: The Great Minds didn't kill them. Something lurks beneath the bedrock that only tolerates free casters did.
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