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Johnny Aztec posted:That is completely retarded. A super wealthy person like wayne has waaaay more power and ability to change things, than some rear end in a top hat in a cape. It's not about putting criminals behind bars or funding the police force. It's about instilling fear. "Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot." Batman is effective not simply because he can put them in jail, but because they fear him, he becomes the bed time story, every time someone thinks of committing a crime, there is the feeling in the back of their head, "Batman will find me." And they may brush it off "Batman wouldn't be there for little old me." and then Batman is there for little old you, and he stops you. Bruce Wayne cannot make the criminal element fear him as Bruce Wayne.
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And yet there are always more criminals. It's almost like poverty from low economic opportunities is more motivating than the idea of a ninja with Bat ears giving you a fright. I know "they're stories" I'm just taking the piss
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Batman doesn't give a poo poo about justice, or stopping crime. If he stopped crime, he'd have no purpose. He puts his villians in places they can easily escape because without them, he is nothing. People die so a rich rear end in a top hat can prance around in leather.
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mind the walrus posted:And yet there are always more criminals. It's almost like poverty from low economic opportunities is more motivating than the idea of a ninja with Bat ears giving you a fright. This is the argument people who don't actually read Batman comics like to make, especially in the wake of the Nolan movies. Because Bruce is constantly donating money to causes. He's got infinite fictional resources and he does have a bazillion foundations and grants and stuff that he does as Bruce Wayne. But you know, if he didn't run around in bat ears scaring people it'd be a pretty boring comic book, so you have to accept that the DC universe doesn't work like the real world.
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I know "they're stories" I'm just taking the piss
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I suppose you could have a Batman comic where he turns up on the doorsteps of various struggling charities and failing schools and stuff with enormous cardboard novelty checks, or where he batlobbies for improved social services and better rehabilitation programs by taking congresspeople out in the batmobile to tour the batcave and that ends in a batpresentation. Finally a reason for that bat credit card. These school supplies are on me, kids! It would basically be the 10-second PSAs at the end of GI Joe turned into the main feature.
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Ashcans posted:I suppose you could have a Batman comic where he turns up on the doorsteps of various struggling charities and failing schools and stuff with enormous cardboard novelty checks, or where he batlobbies for improved social services and better rehabilitation programs by taking congresspeople out in the batmobile to tour the batcave and that ends in a batpresentation. Legit sounds like what Batman '66 would do on slow crime days.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Legit sounds like what Batman '66 would do on slow crime days. That's because, as I've said countless times, Batman '66 is the best Batman.
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Just a reminder The Best Batman Elseworld The Batman Of Arkham is literally about Batman capturing criminals and taking them to Arkham so that cutting edge psychologist Bruce Wayne gives them the care and treatment they need to reenter society. Killer Croc is his buddy. It loving ruled.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Just a reminder The Best Batman Elseworld The Batman Of Arkham is literally about Batman capturing criminals and taking them to Arkham so that cutting edge psychologist Bruce Wayne gives them the care and treatment they need to reenter society. This sounds awesome. Is it only one issue? It's all I see on comixology.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:This sounds awesome. Is it only one issue? It's all I see on comixology. It's an Elseworld so it's basically an annual-sized single issue. I think you might also be able to find it in a collection of Batman Elseworlds, but I might be remembering wrong there.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Just a reminder The Best Batman Elseworld The Batman Of Arkham is literally about Batman capturing criminals and taking them to Arkham so that cutting edge psychologist Bruce Wayne gives them the care and treatment they need to reenter society. Maltose knows what's up. 
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Yvonmukluk posted:Legit sounds like what Batman '66 would do on slow crime days. Yes, but he'd present the checks to ladies dressed in swim suits wearing sashes of the charities they represent. Which was an actual episode.
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Gavok posted:Maltose knows what's up.
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Gavok posted:Maltose knows what's up. This is legitimately one of my favorite versions of Batman and it always made me very frustrated because "Fights villains at Batman, works to help and rehabilitate as Bruce Wayne" is something I like a lot more than "Fights villains as Batman, bangs supermodels and pretends to get drunk as Bruce Wayne."
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It's not like anyone would think a very peaceful and reasonable philanthropist is also a crazy person who dresses in an animal-themed gimp suit to beat up the mentally ill anymore than the playboy cover.
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ImpAtom posted:This is legitimately one of my favorite versions of Batman and it always made me very frustrated because "Fights villains at Batman, works to help and rehabilitate as Bruce Wayne" is something I like a lot more than "Fights villains as Batman, bangs supermodels and pretends to get drunk as Bruce Wayne." But Batman isn't Batman if he isn't a shell of a human being dedicated 100% of all time to Batmanning???
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WickedHate posted:But Batman isn't Batman if he isn't a shell of a human being dedicated 100% of all time to Batmanning??? Only when he's written poorly. Which is most of the time. As Waid so excellently put it in Kingdom Come: "When you scratch everything else away from Batman, you're left with someone who doesn't want to see anybody die." The best Batman is the one who cares more about protecting the innocent than punishing the guilty.
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I may have said this before, but somewhere in the multiverse is a Bruce Wayne who diverted every penny of the Wayne fortune into inner-city schools, and works as a social worker. Alfred is also a social worker. Dick Grayson and all the others are just kids who needed help and, with his help, have made careers. He doesn't ever throw a punch. No bats, no supervillains. He is, of course, still best friends with Superman.
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qntm posted:I may have said this before, but somewhere in the multiverse is a Bruce Wayne who diverted every penny of the Wayne fortune into inner-city schools, and works as a social worker. Alfred is also a social worker. Dick Grayson and all the others are just kids who needed help and, with his help, have made careers. He doesn't ever throw a punch. No bats, no supervillains. Did somebody throw a hardcover copy of The Jungle through his window at the critical moment
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Phy posted:Did somebody throw a hardcover copy of The Jungle through his window at the critical moment Thus began Bruce Wayne's career in a Guns n' Roses cover band.
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Gavok posted:Maltose knows what's up. Who's the artist here? It gives off a very EC style vibe.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Legit sounds like what Batman '66 would do on slow crime days. There's an episode where he runs for mayor against the Penguin. He refuses to kiss babies because it's unhygienic.
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Skwirl posted:There's an episode where he runs for mayor against the Penguin. He refuses to kiss babies because it's unhygienic. Whereas Penguin doesn't even take his cigarette holder out while kissing tykes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJ5AcsXp4M Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Anyone have a link to the previous Badass panels thread? I got archives, but I can't find it.
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Lurdiak posted:Anyone have a link to the previous Badass panels thread? I got archives, but I can't find it. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3280398
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Wow, we were still using Waffleimages in 2010? Crazy. Thanks!
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Gavok posted:Maltose knows what's up. My personal favorite panel in that book was Gordon freaking out at seeing Croc walking around.  "Killer Croc! Last time I saw him he swore revenge!" "Morning, Commish."
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Discendo Vox posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE Like an idiot, I assumed folks meant he ran for mayor as Bruce Wayne.
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If I lived in Gotham, I'd be much more likely to vote for Batman than some rich guy. Of course, if I lived in Gotham I'd move, too.
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I've always felt that the great tragedy of Batman, and why he contrasts so well with the Joker and Superman, is that in the end, he's as crazy as the Joker. It's an impossibly controlled and beneficial insanity, but Bruce Wayne when he saw his parents shot to death snapped just as hard when a failed comedian took off a helmet and saw his face was all messed up. It makes moping and being an rear end in a top hat redundant too.
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Johnny Aztec posted:That is completely retarded. A super wealthy person like wayne has waaaay more power and ability to change things, than some rear end in a top hat in a cape. I've heard this arguement used to justify why batman sucks and isn't helping gotham and I thought Chris Sims did a good rebuttal to it. http://comicsalliance.com/ask-chris-250-misinformation-about-batman/
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Besides, as Sims notes, better social programs and charity isn't gonna stop the Joker or Bane or the League of Shadows or etc.
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quote:one definitive answer to why Batman doesn’t kill the Joker [...] [The Joker] lives in a world where ghosts exist and literally no one wants to deal with the Ghost Joker 
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WickedHate posted:Besides, as Sims notes, better social programs and charity isn't gonna stop the Joker or Bane or the League of Shadows or etc. also the founding fathers summoned a bat demon that was trapped under gotham city which exerts an evil influence on everyone who lives there
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WickedHate posted:Besides, as Sims notes, better social programs and charity isn't gonna stop the Joker or Bane or the League of Shadows or etc. There wouldn't be no Bane if his country had prison reform!
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