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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

D&D is full of the worst subhuman smug liberals on the Internet, people who mock the right wing, who keep whining and gnashing their teeth whenever they do something horrid on massive megathreads, but also who denounce and turn on every left wing movement that tries to challenge them on any way that isn't by trying to use the very system that has been used by the oligarchy to perpetuate itself in power for centuries. Sure, call someone a keyboard warrior and post the same arguments the American estabilishment use to keep their chokehold on Cuban imports and do the same thing you always did to protest against poor peasants, women, children and the LGBT being massacred every day by doing sympathetic tweets and voting for any cretin who looks electable but has a single progressive policy mixed with his program of selling campesino hearts to American companies.

Pol Pot was loving right about city people and intellectuals.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

D&D is full of the worst subhuman smug liberals on the Internet, people who mock the right wing, who keep whining and gnashing their teeth whenever they do something horrid on massive megathreads, but also who denounce and turn on every left wing movement that tries to challenge them on any way that isn't by trying to use the very system that has been used by the oligarchy to perpetuate itself in power for centuries. Sure, call someone a keyboard warrior and post the same arguments the American estabilishment use to keep their chokehold on Cuban imports and do the same thing you always did to protest against poor peasants, women, children and the LGBT being massacred every day by doing sympathetic tweets and voting for any cretin who looks electable but has a single progressive policy mixed with his program of selling campesino hearts to American companies.

Pol Pot was loving right about city people and intellectuals.

2.5/10.0

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


TheLovablePlutonis posted:

D&D is full of the worst subhuman smug liberals on the Internet, people who mock the right wing, who keep whining and gnashing their teeth whenever they do something horrid on massive megathreads, but also who denounce and turn on every left wing movement that tries to challenge them on any way that isn't by trying to use the very system that has been used by the oligarchy to perpetuate itself in power for centuries. Sure, call someone a keyboard warrior and post the same arguments the American estabilishment use to keep their chokehold on Cuban imports and do the same thing you always did to protest against poor peasants, women, children and the LGBT being massacred every day by doing sympathetic tweets and voting for any cretin who looks electable but has a single progressive policy mixed with his program of selling campesino hearts to American companies.

Pol Pot was loving right about city people and intellectuals.

:ironicat:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

I don't expect him to take up arms and do anything. I just enjoy pointing it out after he let us all know that he would "gladly kill and die for socialism."

No, you're a nihilist because you insist that being willing to die or commit violence for a cause means you must be doing it constantly, endlessly. Which means that there is no cause for which you would martyr yourself or kill. Meaning that you value nothing more highly than your own life, you lickspittle coward. Anyone with a knife, possibly even with a sharp-looking vegetable, could dictate whatever terms they'd like and you'd follow like the dog you are to save your worthless carcass. You are precisely the kind of person secret police forces love, someone who will do whatever is requested, commit whatever horror they deem necessary, out of spinelessness, you quivering jelly that calls itself human.


Ardennes posted:

People who bring up Bostwana usually don't mention the entire country is practically supported by diamond mining (and a lesser extent nickle mining). They didn't unlock some miracle of economics, it is just where diamonds come from. Also, their minimum wage is around 50 cents an hour.

Well, not even that. It's more that Botswana being relatively stable politically means it's absorbed most of the financial sectors of Subsaharan Africa and so is prosperous because it's living off all the African economies.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
^^Yeah dude, I love me some GESTAPO. That's precisely the only take away from "i think it's pathetic this kid criticizes those who abandon violence, bragging about how he could totes do it"

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

D&D is full of the worst subhuman smug liberals on the Internet, people who mock the right wing, who keep whining and gnashing their teeth whenever they do something horrid on massive megathreads, but also who denounce and turn on every left wing movement that tries to challenge them on any way that isn't by trying to use the very system that has been used by the oligarchy to perpetuate itself in power for centuries. Sure, call someone a keyboard warrior and post the same arguments the American estabilishment use to keep their chokehold on Cuban imports and do the same thing you always did to protest against poor peasants, women, children and the LGBT being massacred every day by doing sympathetic tweets and voting for any cretin who looks electable but has a single progressive policy mixed with his program of selling campesino hearts to American companies.

Pol Pot was loving right about city people and intellectuals.

:allears:

Are there a lot of casualties in your bedroom right now? Make sure you avoid the sniper fire when you go to the kitchen for a late night snack.
I think that it's important that you understand that nobody here, nobody at all, is taking your ramblings seriously. Also, as a Spanish speaker, just throwing the word "campesino," which has a literal English translation, just to sound more "connected to the struggle" is really loving pathetic.
You are, indeed, a keyboard warrior. You talk about how others should go and bleed for your idiotic and retrograde ideology, brag about how you would absolutely go and kill for it... But then stay at home and do nothing. Worse, you actually criticize those who stop fighting.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not out there pushing your toxic ideas by violent means (or, most likely, getting yourself killed in the shortest police chase in history) but I wish you at least had the decency of accepting that you're not some heroic revolutionary. You're a kid (I really hope you're not a grown person), sitting at home, bragging about what he COULD do. You're somehow sadder than the people who say they graduated at the top of the class as a navy seal. At least in their fantasies they actually did something. You don't even have the courtesy of amusing us by investing some revolutionary adventure.

Basically, kid, you're a pathetic, sociopathic, poor excuse for a person. poo poo or get off the pot.

EDIT: I checked your posting history. You post in the MMO, Pokemon and Anime threads. poo poo, no wonder you're so stuck in that fantasy world, Marxism-kun :3

Redrum and Coke fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 21, 2016

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Brainiac Five posted:

Well, not even that. It's more that Botswana being relatively stable politically means it's absorbed most of the financial sectors of Subsaharan Africa and so is prosperous because it's living off all the African economies.

Mining still makes about 80-85% of Botswana's exports. Nevertheless it could easily be both at the same time. Botswana doesn't provide an economy model for other countries in the region, it is an outlier for a reason.

It is one of those "success" stories people don't like to look at too closely.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Shut up, breaking news: Brazil's impeached president just got hit with 30 charges for corruption and 30mi in payoffs!

i didn't say which president

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Actually no, gently caress Plutonis

Sorry Eff

I Killed GBS fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Oct 21, 2016

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

I Killed GBS posted:

On the other hand, he's not a degenerate racist like yourself. So at least he's got that going for him.
You're more than welcome to tell me how and why I fit either of those things.

Dias posted:

Shut up, breaking news: Brazil's impeached president just got hit with 30 charges for corruption and 30mi in payoffs!
i didn't say which president
He's not a president, he's an MP.

More news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/19/eduardo-cunha-arrested-corruption-charges-brazil

But yeah, sweet irony.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Non Serviam posted:

^^Yeah dude, I love me some GESTAPO. That's precisely the only take away from "i think it's pathetic this kid criticizes those who abandon violence, bragging about how he could totes do it"


:allears:

Are there a lot of casualties in your bedroom right now? Make sure you avoid the sniper fire when you go to the kitchen for a late night snack.
I think that it's important that you understand that nobody here, nobody at all, is taking your ramblings seriously. Also, as a Spanish speaker, just throwing the word "campesino," which has a literal English translation, just to sound more "connected to the struggle" is really loving pathetic.
You are, indeed, a keyboard warrior. You talk about how others should go and bleed for your idiotic and retrograde ideology, brag about how you would absolutely go and kill for it... But then stay at home and do nothing. Worse, you actually criticize those who stop fighting.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not out there pushing your toxic ideas by violent means (or, most likely, getting yourself killed in the shortest police chase in history) but I wish you at least had the decency of accepting that you're not some heroic revolutionary. You're a kid (I really hope you're not a grown person), sitting at home, bragging about what he COULD do. You're somehow sadder than the people who say they graduated at the top of the class as a navy seal. At least in their fantasies they actually did something. You don't even have the courtesy of amusing us by investing some revolutionary adventure.

Basically, kid, you're a pathetic, sociopathic, poor excuse for a person. poo poo or get off the pot.

EDIT: I checked your posting history. You post in the MMO, Pokemon and Anime threads. poo poo, no wonder you're so stuck in that fantasy world, Marxism-kun :3

[a massive and deafening groan]

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

^^Yeah dude, I love me some GESTAPO. That's precisely the only take away from "i think it's pathetic this kid criticizes those who abandon violence, bragging about how he could totes do it"

No, you'd love the Gestapo because you'd feel warm they were murdering commies, but you selling out every Jewish, LGBT, Roma, disabled, Jehovah's Witness, etc. person to the Gestapo if you were confronted by the choice would presumably be dominated by your complete lack of any value for anything but your mangy hide.

Or, alternatively, you have different standards for being left-wing than for other ideologies, which merely makes you a motherfucker instead of a soulless abomination your parents should have aborted.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Dias posted:

Shut up, breaking news: Brazil's impeached president just got hit with 30 charges for corruption and 30mi in payoffs!

i didn't say which president

Did Temer just get impeached?

I know this is pie in the sky

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Non Serviam posted:

You're more than welcome to tell me how and why I fit either of those things.

He's not a president, he's an MP.

More news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/19/eduardo-cunha-arrested-corruption-charges-brazil

But yeah, sweet irony.

You're still loving awful by the way, I just didn't feel good defending Plutonis while putting you down.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Brainiac Five posted:

No, you'd love the Gestapo because you'd feel warm they were murdering commies, but you selling out every Jewish, LGBT, Roma, disabled, Jehovah's Witness, etc. person to the Gestapo if you were confronted by the choice would presumably be dominated by your complete lack of any value for anything but your mangy hide.

Or, alternatively, you have different standards for being left-wing than for other ideologies, which merely makes you a motherfucker instead of a soulless abomination your parents should have aborted.

No, I just think you shouldn't advocate violence as a means of political participation.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I Killed GBS posted:

You're still loving awful by the way, I just didn't feel good defending Plutonis while putting you down.

I don't even know you, no need for hostility.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Collor, mates.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Dias posted:

Collor, mates.

I found the news in Spanish. Apparently they haven't covered it in English yet, for some reason.

http://www.eldiario.es/politica/procurador-expresidente-Collor-Mello-corrupcion_0_571842824.html

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

No, I just think you shouldn't advocate violence as a means of political participation.

Okay, so you believe that World War 2 was totally unjustified and the Nazis should have been allowed to complete their aims of multitudinous genocides. I'd think we're done here, but you will no doubt continue to equivocate in order to hold on to the one certainty in your life, the sole thing that keeps your wretched existence together.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Brainiac Five posted:

Okay, so you believe that World War 2 was totally unjustified and the Nazis should have been allowed to complete their aims of multitudinous genocides. I'd think we're done here, but you will no doubt continue to equivocate in order to hold on to the one certainty in your life, the sole thing that keeps your wretched existence together.

I know that Godwin's law is pretty basic but... really?

He's criticizing the fact that the FARC put down their weapons (which he obviously wouldn't do, though he'd bring his hanzo steel), not that people fighting a genocide gave up and took it.

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

I know that Godwin's law is pretty basic but... really?

He's criticizing the fact that the FARC put down their weapons (which he obviously wouldn't do, though he'd bring his hanzo steel), not that people fighting a genocide gave up and took it.

You're insisting that political violence is unacceptable. World War 2, like all wars, was political violence. I'm sorry you don't think about your beliefs before your hideous face blossoms into an even uglier smugness as you type, "hanzo steel" and chuckled about how you, a man in the stages of midlife crisis where you post on a website for kids to make dumb jokes on a variety of topics, have definitely owned this presumed child. Why, I bet you fantasize a lot about owning children.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Violence is fine if it's against Nazis.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Brainiac Five posted:

You're insisting that political violence is unacceptable. World War 2, like all wars, was political violence. I'm sorry you don't think about your beliefs before your hideous face blossoms into an even uglier smugness as you type, "hanzo steel" and chuckled about how you, a man in the stages of midlife crisis where you post on a website for kids to make dumb jokes on a variety of topics, have definitely owned this presumed child. Why, I bet you fantasize a lot about owning children.

I sincerely hope that he is a kid, yes. I don't want to believe a person reaches adulthood and still spouts that idiocy.

EDIT: Also, I'll have you know SA is not "a website for kids." It's a site for men in the stages of a midlife crisis.

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

I sincerely hope that he is a kid, yes. I don't want to believe a person reaches adulthood and still spouts that idiocy.

EDIT: Also, I'll have you know SA is not "a website for kids." It's a site for men in the stages of a midlife crisis.

So you fantasize about being intellectually superior to a child, about regularly interacting with children on a close and personal level to scream at them about how stupid they are, about "owning" children. Get help, you freakazoid.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Brainiac Five posted:

So you fantasize about being intellectually superior to a child, about regularly interacting with children on a close and personal level to scream at them about how stupid they are, about "owning" children. Get help, you freakazoid.

:ironicat:

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Curious how this smiley applies. You trying to pretend you're a kid, you being so incompetent you can't use smilies properly, you being a horror from the depths of GBS, etc.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Non Serviam posted:

I sincerely hope that he is a kid, yes. I don't want to believe a person reaches adulthood and still spouts that idiocy.

EDIT: Also, I'll have you know SA is not "a website for kids." It's a site for men in the stages of a midlife crisis.

The libertadores were grown adults, so were the patriots, the french revolutionaries, and most of the significant figures of most revolutions worldwide. Complacent navel gazing about how it's childish to think a revolution is something that should be believed in doesn't really help anything but show that you're essentially in a position to benefit from the system anyway, or that you don't really give enough of a poo poo to care. I'd go with the former considering you were hammering the farc for their proportionally lesser crimes while acting like it was horrible to have terrorists get in the colombian government when the colombian congress is already chock full of them, just ones whose ideological positions line up with yours, violence aside, and let's be honest, it's not like this kind of handwringing is detached from the violence in itself.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Agnosticnixie posted:

The libertadores were grown adults, so were the patriots, the french revolutionaries, and most of the significant figures of most revolutions worldwide. Complacent navel gazing about how it's childish to think a revolution is something that should be believed in doesn't really help anything but show that you're essentially in a position to benefit from the system anyway, or that you don't really give enough of a poo poo to care. I'd go with the former considering you were hammering the farc for their proportionally lesser crimes while acting like it was horrible to have terrorists get in the colombian government when the colombian congress is already chock full of them, just ones whose ideological positions line up with yours, violence aside, and let's be honest, it's not like this kind of handwringing is detached from the violence in itself.


What I was hammering the peace process for was for allowing the guilty of war crimes, from all sides, to go unpunished. Clearly I hold the position of a monster.

I have no particular sympathies for the Colombian government, you're just filling in the blanks with whatever helps your argument.

I believe, of course, that there are times when armed struggle applies. I'm not suggesting violence is never right. The argument is that here's a person criticizing a terrorist movement for putting down their weapons, while salivating about how he would totally kill for his ideology.

I hope the above clarifies my point and you can all go back to the anime thread.

Brainiac Five posted:

Curious how this smiley applies. You trying to pretend you're a kid, you being so incompetent you can't use smilies properly, you being a horror from the depths of GBS, etc.

I don't even visit gbs, but do go on.

Redrum and Coke fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Oct 21, 2016

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

What I was hammering the peace process for was for allowing the guilty of war crimes, from all sides, to go unpunished. Clearly I hold the position of a monster.

I have no particular sympathies for the Colombian government, you're just filling in the blanks with whatever helps your argument.

I believe, of course, that there are times when armed struggle applies. I'm not suggesting violence is never right. The argument is that here's a person criticizing a terrorist movement for putting down their weapons, while salivating about how he would totally kill for his ideology.

I hope the above clarifies my point and you can all go back to the anime thread.

If violence is sometimes right, then surely the problem is not the concept of criticizing an armed movement for disarming, since without further information we cannot determine whether they are wrong or right to do so. So I think you are necessarily lying about your support for the Colombian government's actions.

Anyways, that's part of any civil war's peace process. The Union only prosecuted the commandant of Andersonville prison, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa significantly restricted the number of people charged for crimes by the government or the ANC. It's important for ensuring the society pulls back together, by assuring there will be no more retaliations. The desire for infinite retribution is one that is incompatible with any kind of lasting peace.

Non Serviam posted:

I don't even visit gbs, but do go on.

Don't start. It doesn't need to get any worse.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Brainiac Five posted:

Don't start. It doesn't need to get any worse.

Then you stop posting, fucktard.

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Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
^^^` I'm guilty of the same poo poo. I'll shut up.

quote:

If violence is sometimes right, then surely the problem is not the concept of criticizing an armed movement for disarming...
...while bragging about how you'd be out there doing the killing.

Having said that, the FARC are a terrorist organization that kidnapped civilians, raped women and used child soldiers. So, yes, they should disarm. And, no, you shouldn't talk about how you would have been a great member.


Brainiac Five posted:

Don't start. It doesn't need to get any worse.
:allears:

Brainiac Five
Mar 28, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Non Serviam posted:

^^^` I'm guilty of the same poo poo. I'll shut up.

...while bragging about how you'd be out there doing the killing.

Having said that, the FARC are a terrorist organization that kidnapped civilians, raped women and used child soldiers. So, yes, they should disarm. And, no, you shouldn't talk about how you would have been a great member.

Okay, so you were lying when you said you were neutral on whether the Colombian government was in the right or not. Figured, but it's nice to have confirmation. Anyways, why should they disarm if it's just to get slaughtered like livestock?

qnqnx posted:

Then you stop posting, fucktard.

I eagerly await you developing the final stages of irony poisoning and joining a neonazi group for real.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Is this what Latin America is like? :psyduck:

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Squeegy posted:

Is this what Latin America is like? :psyduck:

It would definitely explain why they can't have nice things.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Squeegy posted:

Is this what Latin America is like? :psyduck:

You thought :ese: was a joke?

We are some pretty bad hombres.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Squeegy posted:

Is this what Latin America is like? :psyduck:

Actually yeah, that's the usual level of discourse and respect you'd find in a social network.

Collor is a true example of the Brazillian political elite.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

D&D is full of the worst subhuman smug liberals on the Internet, people who mock the right wing, who keep whining and gnashing their teeth whenever they do something horrid on massive megathreads, but also who denounce and turn on every left wing movement that tries to challenge them on any way that isn't by trying to use the very system that has been used by the oligarchy to perpetuate itself in power for centuries. Sure, call someone a keyboard warrior and post the same arguments the American estabilishment use to keep their chokehold on Cuban imports and do the same thing you always did to protest against poor peasants, women, children and the LGBT being massacred every day by doing sympathetic tweets and voting for any cretin who looks electable but has a single progressive policy mixed with his program of selling campesino hearts to American companies.

Pol Pot was loving right about city people and intellectuals.

Nice meltdown.

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord
I'll say that even if I'm probably one of the "subhuman smug liberals on the internet" at least I respect TheLovablePlutonis venting their frustrations. :shobon:

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

ZearothK posted:

Actually yeah, that's the usual level of discourse and respect you'd find in a social network.

Collor is a true example of the Brazillian political elite.

What are the chances of Collor seeing the inside of a cell. On one hand, he's the son of a guy that literally got away with murder, on the other, he's probably one of the least popular politicians in Brazil (on both sides of politics).

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

hoiyes posted:

What are the chances of Collor seeing the inside of a cell. On one hand, he's the son of a guy that literally got away with murder, on the other, he's probably one of the least popular politicians in Brazil (on both sides of politics).

He's getting hit with a LOT of pretty severe charges, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually gets time. 30 charges for passive corruption, plus THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-SIX charges for money laundering and 48 charges for embezzling.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Also four legislative police (didn't even know those guys existed) in Brazil are being arrested by federal police for tampering with corruption investigations. Including the director of the agency.

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