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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Will we see a remake of Voltes V for the filo audience?

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THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx
In the US people eat so much food that over 40% of the population is obese. China is so much better.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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in civilization 6 the civilopedia straight up ignores anything post 1912 in chinas entry

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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holy poo poo it also "credits" china with the inventions of slavery and propaganda loving lol

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I asked this a while ago, but I didn't get an answer so I'll ask again:

There's a British writer who's written two or three books explaining why China isn't going to take over the planet. The most recent one was in 2014 or 2015 I believe. He lived in Northern China for over ten years, married a Chinese woman and had two kids. He very recently moved back to the UK and wrote an article about it. He mentioned how his two children immediately improved in school because they weren't going to the lovely Chinese-style schools any more.

Another interesting thing was that he started a very successful publishing company that was confiscated by the Chinese government. I believe he started another company which was again taken by the CCP.

Does anyone remember this guy? He's written articles and books and is a long time CHINA EXPERT.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Yep, I remember him.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Yep, I remember him.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es
are there no gay people in China the same way there are no gay people in Korea?

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

ladron posted:

are there no gay people in China the same way there are no gay people in Korea?

Don't know the situation in Korea, but it's super common in China that a lesbian woman will marry a gay man, and often even have children together just to make both families shut up about grand children.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
there definitely arent gay people in russia, its illegal so why would you be gay?

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Fauxtool posted:

there definitely arent gay people in russia, its illegal so why would you be gay?

I did work with LGBT groups in Mongolia and this was a super common way of thinking.

"Mongols are not gay. Only foreigners are gay."
"Well I know some Mongols who are gay and lesbian. There are LGBT people in every country."
"I don't think so. Mongols do not do this."
"...Alright."

They had the exact same attitudes with drugs. I understood that from people who lived out in the countryside and had never heard of most drugs, but I had guys who lived in the capital city tell me "Mongols don't do drugs, it's not in our culture". I'd tell them that just a few weeks before I had seen dudes railing lines off a sink in one of the popular clubs and he responded with "If Mongols are doing drugs it's because foreigners brought them here and made them do it". Which is partially true I guess.


Someone was talking about it earlier about how Chinese people make these huge sweeping statements about what "Chinese people" do as though there is a perfect harmony of interests and actions. Mongols do the exact same thing. They all drink a fermented horse milk called aairag, which tastes exactly how you'd expect it to, and whenever I asked people "Do you actually enjoy this?" Mongols would always say "All Mongols love aairag". Then I'd say "But do you enjoy it?" and about half the people would go "Well I don't enjoy it, but everyone else does".

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

ladron posted:

are there no gay people in China the same way there are no gay people in Korea?
They are all on Wechat trying to add me ATM.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Would you please describe the aairiag.. Aarig.. Aghrighig...fermented milk thing as best you can? Can you get drunk on it without puking?

I tried getting wasted off lehing (sp?) in Borneo which may or may not have been milk based and it was just poo poo.

Fake edit: no it was rice based and poo poo. How could fermented milk be a good Idea?

Haier posted:

They are all on Wechat trying to add me ATM.

Go on, take one for the team.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Outrail posted:

Fake edit: no it was rice based and poo poo. How could fermented milk be a good Idea?

Gotta figure out a way to get poo poo ripped on whatever's available. Mongols didn't really farm so milk's your only option.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Someone was talking about it earlier about how Chinese people make these huge sweeping statements about what "Chinese people" do as though there is a perfect harmony of interests and actions. Mongols do the exact same thing. They all drink a fermented horse milk called aairag, which tastes exactly how you'd expect it to, and whenever I asked people "Do you actually enjoy this?" Mongols would always say "All Mongols love aairag". Then I'd say "But do you enjoy it?" and about half the people would go "Well I don't enjoy it, but everyone else does".

This is a really common thing in countries with a fairly homogeneous population and an ingrained cultural practice of suppressing logic/reason.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Aairag actually isn't that bad. It just tastes like a thick, sour milk. I love dairy so I could choke down a lot of it if needed. There's never been a point after I left Mongolia where I thought to myself "Man I could go for a liter of aairag right now", but I got used to drinking it at parties and stuff. It's partially ceremonial and I know a ton of Mongols who don't like the taste but they drink it because it's tradition.

Historically it wasn't just an alcoholic drink, it was an important source of nutrients. Aairag is actually crazy nutritious and I knew people who consumed basically just that. My friend's grandmother was a woman of about 70 who lived alone in the desert with just a small herd of camels and she almost exclusively ate homemade noodles and camel milk. Even today Mongols have a very different diet between summer and winter. Summer diets are still largely based on hard cheese and fermented milk. They have to be very cautious about killing their herd animals because milk is so valuable. Usually no animals are killed during summer, except for during the summer festival Naadam. It's only during the winter that Mongols start to eat more meat.

It's also hard to tell how alcoholic it is because it's always drank in combination with vodka. If there's aairag coming out, the vodka is right behind it. It's also drunk in absolutely massive quantities. When I would go to a party with maybe 15-20 people they would have something in the realm of 20-25 gallons of aairag ready to go, with more in reserve. The funny thing is, even though Mongols have a massive lactose tolerance, they're still human and can only handle so much milk. Usually about 2 hours into a party I would step outside to take a piss and the outhouse would be absolutely covered with chalky white vomit. Throwing up is just a totally normal thing over there, especially when drinking.

The only time it got real bad was when we would play this popular Mongolian party game. Mongols have a Rock-Paper-Scissors type game called except it involved all 5 fingers. Each finger beats the one above it (and pinky beats thumb). In this party game you get two teams and sit them facing each other. You then basically have a big tournament here the people at one end face off, and if you win you challenge the next person on the opposing team. The teams compete until one side has run out of players. Each team has a "Patriarch* and if your team loses the Patriarch gets to dole out aairag and vodka to make his own team drink as a punishment for losing. So he might say "Okay you drink a shot of vodka, and she drinks a bowl of aairag". Bowls of aairag are also huge. It's not drank out of cups, only bowls usually. Older men usually have bigger bowls, but even normal ones are probably like 3-4 cups worth of liquid.

The thing is, every round of this game the ante gets upped. First round might be 1 shot of vodka, 2 bowls of aairag. Next round is 2 shots and 3 bowls. So after you've played 4-5 rounds if your team loses suddenly your team has to drink 5 shots of vodka and several liters of aairag between them. And of course if you're the foreigner people want to see how much you can drink, and even better if you throw up and pass out. This is also in addition to eating a veritable feast of meat and other cheese products during the party.

I do miss Mongolia sometimes.

edit: Here's the camel grandma not taking poo poo from her herd

Yorkshire Pudding fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Oct 21, 2016

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
I love that there is a Wiki article on "logic in China" and it opens with

quote:

Formal logic in China has a special place in the history of logic due to its repression and abandonment - in contrast to the strong ancient adoption and continued development of the study of logic in Europe, India, and the Islamic world.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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fish and chips and dip posted:

I love that there is a Wiki article on "logic in China" and it opens with

Yeah it loving blew my mind when I learned that there was no formal academic history of logic in China and it explains a shitload

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

The Great Autismo! posted:

i always think of Levon wei's "they are stealing our women" spiel when I am at the gym and there is one guy naked, smoking a cig and literally screaming to his buddy who just hawked a loogie on the floor and is blow drying his pubs or his butthole over by the mirror, and I'm like "yeah this is the foreigners fault for stealing the women away"

But sometimes the foreigners don't want to steal the women...



I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

I think she wants you to ride her.

802.11weed
May 9, 2007

no
Bro

Blue Star Error
Jun 11, 2001

For this recipie you will need:
Football match (Halftime of), Celebrity Owner (Motivational speaking of), Sherry (Bottle of)

ladron posted:

are there no gay people in China the same way there are no gay people in Korea?

THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx
I can kind of sympathise with "foreigner steal our women!" considering the one child policy left china with like 50 million more men than women. That's 50 million men who'll die alone.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

THE PWNER posted:

I can kind of sympathise with "foreigner steal our women!" considering the one child policy left china with like 50 million more men than women. That's 50 million men who'll die alone.

It's a convenient narrative compared to calling it lovely culture of wanting boys meets terrible CCP policy.

THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx

Boiled Water posted:

It's a convenient narrative compared to calling it lovely culture of wanting boys meets terrible CCP policy.

Literally Every Country would have turned out the same with a similar policy. We are all disgusting misogynists.

Especially the USA. gently caress, the USA is a backwater shithole. I wonder if the US people posting about how much they hate China in this thread realise that everyone else in the world sees them in the same way.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
http://i.imgur.com/6Wj5Ep3.gifv

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

what article was this response to

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Yep, I remember him.

Cool. Do you remember his name?


THE PWNER posted:

Literally Every Country would have turned out the same with a similar policy. We are all disgusting misogynists.

Especially the USA. gently caress, the USA is a backwater shithole. I wonder if the US people posting about how much they hate China in this thread realise that everyone else in the world sees them in the same way.

That's true, every foreigner thinks exactly the same way. Thank you for confirming this for me.



It looks like an exploding water balloon.

THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx

nickmeister posted:


That's true, every foreigner thinks exactly the same way. Thank you for confirming this for me.

It's not like you'd know, estadounidense. Conversation with anyone from anywhere in the world usually goes name > where from > what do you do > so aren't those Americans retarded > complete agreement

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Real talk: People take corners or turn here like I've never seen anywhere else. At least in my experience as a pedestrian, or in the car with my friends, is that somehow they learned that speeding up while cornering or turning is the proper way to handle it. It's probably the most dangerous moment IMO when being around Chinese drivers.
The idiots on the freeways who stop when they please or miss an exit are also pretty good, along with backing up into oncoming traffic because they think putting theirs and other lives into serious danger is the smart way to save time and energy. Driving the wrong way on a one-way to save time, too. It's such a "gently caress you, got mine" style of driving. On top of this, the fact that driving school is done in a parking lot/garage is standard and people don't get into traffic for the first time until they have a license, it's crazy. Also, the rich people who just bribe their way into a license.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Curious as to why our resident Australien pulled out his wicked Spanish skills.

V- Not surprising you'd sympathize with the criminals.

nomad2020 fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Oct 21, 2016

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

THE PWNER posted:

Literally Every Country would have turned out the same with a similar policy. We are all disgusting misogynists.

Especially the USA. gently caress, the USA is a backwater shithole. I wonder if the US people posting about how much they hate China in this thread realise that everyone else in the world sees them in the same way.

Expecting self awareness from a bunch of losers that flew half way around the planet just so they could get laid without girls laughing at their dick is a bit of a pipe dream.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

THE PWNER posted:

It's not like you'd know, estadounidense. Conversation with anyone from anywhere in the world usually goes name > where from > what do you do > so aren't those Americans retarded > complete agreement

The reaction I usually get when I tell people I'm American is... "But you're not fat!"

After that it's "But you look just like Harry Potter!"

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Have some Typhoon Gweilo

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

THE PWNER posted:

I can kind of sympathise with "foreigner steal our women!" considering the one child policy left china with like 50 million more men than women. That's 50 million men who'll die alone.

so how do you explain taiwan, japan and korea

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

oohhboy posted:

Have some Typhoon Gweilo



lmao

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

nomad2020 posted:

Curious as to why our resident Australien pulled out his wicked Spanish skills.

V- Not surprising you'd sympathize with the criminals.

Who are the criminals in your opinion?

THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx

this is a stickup posted:

so how do you explain taiwan, japan and korea

they don't have hosed up gender ratios

but I bet if I had a conversation with someone from those places we'd be talkin about how much the USA sucks in no time!

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

The Australians obviously.

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Heer98
Apr 10, 2009

this is a stickup posted:

so how do you explain taiwan, japan and korea

IIRC, the Korean government made it illegal to tell prospective mothers the sex or their fetuses in ultrasound checks until like super late into the pregnancy. Or something like that.

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