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I was sick and the doctor told me I could possibly have mono but it didn't have mono and I knew it but I told everyone I did and that's how I got out of EIB one October in Korea. Thanks that's my army story for the day.
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A Bad Poster posted:It's loving ironic that master resiliency training actively makes you want to kill yourself. The Army keeps trying to teach maturity and socialization to people who will never be in an environment that allows them to develop either, so resiliency ends up being another in a long list of life skills where the people who would be most likely to use the training already have the skills, and the people who need the training the most are the least likely to use it.
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Oct 21, 2016 17:41
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Aranan posted:We had a policy (batallion? brigade? I dunno) of 20 minutes of PT outside every day regardless of the weather. remember earlier this year when 9 dudes from Ft. Hood died because their vehicle was swept from the road by biblical floods, because someone thought it was a great time for training? yeah the Army dont give no fucks about the weather.
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Oct 21, 2016 19:02
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We were also supposed to ruck every Thursday but gently caress that. We did the bare minimum required and hid from the rest.
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Oct 21, 2016 22:00
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Loden Taylor posted:The Army keeps trying to teach maturity and socialization to people who will never be in an environment that allows them to develop either, so resiliency ends up being another in a long list of life skills where the people who would be most likely to use the training already have the skills, and the people who need the training the most are the least likely to use it. I recently attended a seminar led by the resiliency sergeant major of the whole army. Basically every single thing he said about attitude/discipline/resiliency reform made perfect sense and sounded awesome. Then we asked when we'd fundamentally change how we do all this poo poo, and he said it would require GO commanders to underwrite risk and remove some requirements and it was the biggest kick in the nuts.
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TBeats posted:I was sick and the doctor told me I could possibly have mono but it didn't have mono and I knew it but I told everyone I did and that's how I got out of EIB one October in Korea.  warning:I had my wisdom teeth pulled out while I was in the Army and surprise surprise they hosed it up. The first one they pulled they stuffed where it was with mouth gauze or whatever but never scheduled a follow up to remove it, and I was wigged out on percocet and had no escort so had a pretty poor idea of what the gently caress was going on. I went back to my room and enjoyed my profile and pain pills and didn't do poo poo for a bit. A week later or so I'm off profile, show up to work but my jaw is swollen up and my whole mouth tastes like something died in it. I manage to skip out on PT and get to do an emergency dental thing. A new dentist sits me down, takes a look and is horrified and what he sees. I get the numbing treatment and he cuts the stitches or whatever is in there, and for the first time ever I could actually watch a stench travel across the room. It hits me first since it's in my drat mouth, then almost immediately the dentist recoils, and then the assistant and nurse in the back of the room turn with the most disgusted looks on their faces. He starts rummaging around in my mouth and begins pulling out pieces of gauze or whatever they packed my mouth with. Every time he removes one he shakes it in front of my face and angrily asks "do you SEE this?!" and then flicks it onto the hygiene dental apron I'm wearing, like I'm a dog that just took a piss in the kitchen and need to be shown how wrong I am. He finishes up, irrigates everything and sews it back up, actually schedules a follow up and gives me coherent instructions of what NOT to do, then prescribes me more pain pills and extends my profile for ten more days. Realizing I now have a golden goose in my jaw, I begin doing every activity on the "please don't do this" list. I'm smoking cigarettes, drinking milkshakes through a straw, eating food and ~accidentally~ getting it caught in the wound, etc. Every week I show up for a follow up at the dentist and I'm worse than before, more pills, more profile. A month long field problem comes and goes without me, I miss EIB, I'm somehow assigned to an college course which gets me out of another two months of uniform-wearing, PT and other duties and my platoon has largely forgotten about me. When I finally come back it's been several months, my squad leader is actually surprised I'm still in his squad / the Army, a bunch of other dudes have shown up and are now the cherri-est of cherries and I can just get on with chill normal level shamming. Anyway that's my story about cultivating a potentially serious infection in my jaw because it was still preferable to being in the Army.
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:Anyway that's my story about cultivating a potentially serious infection in my jaw because it was still preferable to being in the Army.  This should probably go in the OP so it can get waved in front of anyone that comes in asking about enlisting, goddamn.
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My grandad was a Seabee during the time between Korea and Vietnam. During a tour of the Pacific on their way to Singapore, he developed some serious tooth issues with his wisdom teeth. The on board doctor had him get off at Pearl Harbor to get his wisdom teeth removed, after which they put him on quarters in the hospital for a week or so. In that time, his ship sailed without him. They didn't have any way to get him to the ship, so he got a free two month vacation in Hawaii while all his buddies were stuck underway. Meanwhile, I got my 5 wisdom teeth out, and convinced the dental officer that because I'm a redhead I need more pain medication that other people. Gave me double the dosage for twice the usual time. Got loving loopy for two weeks straight. I'm not sure who got the better deal.
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Oct 22, 2016 00:45
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Aranan posted:We were also supposed to ruck every Thursday but gently caress that. We did the bare minimum required and hid from the rest. Was this at Bragg or is it just some Armywide tradition that Thursdays are ruck days? I remember "rucking" about a mile to some lake by the gun range near the lodge and chilling out to the point where a half day was offered to the guy who swam to the middle of the lake and back. Everyone dove right in.
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Oct 22, 2016 01:15
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:
So how's your socket nowadays?
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:
This is the most retarded thing I've ever read in whole life hahahaha
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mlmp08 posted:I recently attended a seminar led by the resiliency sergeant major of the whole army. Wait, I know I've been retired for a long time but this is actually a thing?
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Oct 22, 2016 02:14
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probably the schoolhouse or whatever I'd think.
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Terrible Robot posted:
"Well gosh, I guess it's fine for me to enlist if retards like that managed to make it through"
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oh no poo poo there is a resiliency command of sorts crazy. But yeah I mean not like OF the Army like "SMA" https://www.army.mil/readyandresilient/ he looks like a goofy fucker and sorry for the malware warnings from .mil
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:oh no poo poo there is a resiliency command of sorts crazy. But yeah I mean not like OF the Army like "SMA" He told a bunch of commanders and NCOs at the CO/BN/BDE level they shouldn't lose their poo poo and ruin a person's life if they say the wrong rank when passing and not sure whether to salute or say "sergeant" or "sergeant major" or "first sergeant" and much grumbling was heard. He also said corrective training wasn't just straight loving wrecking someone's life for an infraction, but instead explaining why that infraction mattered, and if there was no good reason why it mattered, gently caress that infraction, stop making it a rule. e: can confirm, a bit goofy looking, but he made sense. e2: He also said 350-1 is a broken and dumb system. e3: He also, also said that no one will say it publicly, but the Army knows that the amount of time we spend telling people not to kill themselves via powerpoint is totally loving stupid, but they're not willing to make that argument publicly in congress. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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mlmp08 posted:He told a bunch of commanders and NCOs at the CO/BN/BDE level they shouldn't lose their poo poo and ruin a person's life if they say the wrong rank when passing and not sure whether to salute or say "sergeant" or "sergeant major" or "first sergeant" and much grumbling was heard. thhis dude must be high as gently caress if he thinks anyone in the army will even consider that. that man is suggesting people act like non sociopaths just lol
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mlmp08 posted:So how's your socket nowadays? You know unlike most of the long-term physical health consequences the Army inflicts, this one healed up nicely in the long run. I got lucky!
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:You know unlike most of the long-term physical health consequences the Army inflicts, this one healed up nicely in the long run. I got lucky! I'm legit happy for you. But playing with infection is dangerous, please don't repeat. lmao, one time I was doing a BDE level eval and a guy mid-way through said he had a white line running up one of his fingers after he got cut open by C-wire. I told him to stop immediately and call a medic. He refused and said he'd be fine. Maybe 20-30 minutes later, I left the eval and called over radio to his unit to tell them to yank him and send him to the hospital, cause the white line had traveled something crazy like 9 inches up his arm in 30 minutes. Apparently, the dude was minutes from losing his arm when he hit the hospital and got all of the drugs.
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mlmp08 posted:He told a bunch of commanders and NCOs at the CO/BN/BDE level they shouldn't lose their poo poo and ruin a person's life if they say the wrong rank when passing and not sure whether to salute or say "sergeant" or "sergeant major" or "first sergeant" and much grumbling was heard. "Hey, Army. Come sit down. It's time we talk. What I just gave you is a 3 by 5 notecard listing what you're doing wrong. Read it" code:
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I don't think that it's possible for the military to get better. Like, I really don't. There's just too many fuckers that are dumb as poo poo and benefit far too much from everything else being as dumb as they are. Hell, I remember that a platoon sergeant in my troop got sent to mental health because they thought he had undiagnosed TBI. Turns out no, he was a product of No Child Left Behind and had a 3rd grade literacy level. And this man is directly in control of other people's lives. That's loving terrifying to me, almost as much as the military requiring people to be literate is to him. And you know he's gonna hang in there for 30 fuckin' years because what else is he gonna do? With a goddamn 3rd grade literacy level.
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I knew a Sergeant from Ghana that literally did not know English. His comprehension of the language was at maybe a high school sophomore level in a foreign language. And he's in charge of people.
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A Bad Poster posted:I knew a Sergeant from Ghana that literally did not know English. His comprehension of the language was at maybe a high school sophomore level in a foreign language. And he's in charge of people. He's probably better than the average English speaking dickhead.
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Idk dude I've worked with plenty of ESL people who were as horrible or worse than the normal horrible people.
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Nothing like getting a smoke session in Boricua Spanish. The Sgt will yell for about five minutes before he realizes you don't know the Spanish words for front, back, go or get up, then keep cursing you out in Spanish, only switching to English when relevant. Its a culturally broadening experience, and looking back on it I probably deserved it that time. I was a poo poo private, as we all are.
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Thousands of vets in CA guard getting hosed by the Army up ten years after getting out because a NCO and some nobles engaged in widespread reenlistment bonus fraud to the tune of 15 million+ in order to meet goals. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-national-guard-bonus-20161020-snap-story.html Wow.
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sky shark posted:Thousands of vets in CA guard getting hosed by the Army up ten years after getting out because a NCO and some nobles engaged in widespread reenlistment bonus fraud to the tune of 15 million+ in order to meet goals.  Did these Soldiers have their bonuses in writing on a contract? If the Army (The U.S. Government) is really reneging on contracts I can't... There's no big enough.
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Seriously. gently caress the army. Seriously why not go after some of those big contractors who over billed for lovely work?
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Oct 22, 2016 19:06
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Syrian Lannister posted:Seriously. gently caress the army. That's just good business!
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Oct 22, 2016 19:10
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They issued them without making sure those soldiers qualified for them.
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Oct 22, 2016 19:10
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if you gently caress up it's your fault. if the army fucks up it's still your fault. HOOAH.
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That genuinely makes me angry. What the gently caress is wrong with people.
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Oct 22, 2016 19:43
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It's like the Bonus Army all over again, only this time they get crippling debt instead of getting trampled by cavalry lead by Patton & McArthur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
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If I ever get terminal cancer, the last thing I am going to do is drive down to HRC and start shooting. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Enjoy that phone call from a special agent, N4I
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Oct 22, 2016 21:21
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HRC can mean Human Resources Command and Hillary Rodham Clinton. FYI. Jesus.
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what the gently caress is wrong with you
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This is why we cant have nice things
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