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WrenP-Complete posted:I just learned some Libertarians got some electoral votes at some point. I'd look it up but I am hanging upside down and phone use is hard. It was a faithless elector who was elected as Republicans but voted for the Libertarian instead.
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Here, have the price of gold over a hundred years. http://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart here's corn for 45 years http://www.macrotrends.net/2532/corn-prices-historical-chart-data crude oil for 70 http://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart D E B T http://www.macrotrends.net/2496/national-debt-growth-by-year automobile sales http://www.macrotrends.net/1372/auto-and-light-truck-sales-historical-chart
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paragon1 posted:Here, have the price of gold over a hundred years.  Yes, definitely something we should be tying the value of money to.
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I personally want the value of my currency to be far less stable than corn.
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As someone who lives right by endless fields of corn for miles and miles I unironically agree. 
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:As someone who lives right by endless fields of corn for miles and miles I unironically agree. Inflation!!!!!
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Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:On another note: I am interested in how people come to the conclusion that libertarianism is equivalent to feudalism. It honestly seems to me like a strawman in much the same way I've seen conservatives strawman socialism as being equivalent to fascism. What do you get if you destroy the central authority of the state and replace it with many smaller holdings based on property law? A: Feudalism. It's more that there's not really much ideological room for libertarianism that hasn't already been A system of organization based on consensus decisions making by purely voluntary association would be anarcho syndicalism. A system of organization based entirely on the right to own things with no checks by a monopolistic and democratic state is monarchy/feudalism. I've yet to encounter anything under the libertarian banner that hasn't already been defined better by better people. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Talk about a place giving itself a bad name... I've seen flyers around the university that I work at about a talk to be given by a guy from George Mason university. I don't want to go into detail but it has to do with state sovereignty and the economics and politics thereof. I can only imagine what kind of horrid, cut-throat, greed-soaked self-serving shite this rear end in a top hat is going to be on about.
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paragon1 posted:Inflation!!!!! My new car runs on e85, and if you get me enough butter I can start some -real- deflation.
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JustJeff88 posted:Talk about a place giving itself a bad name... I've seen flyers around the university that I work at about a talk to be given by a guy from George Mason university. I don't want to go into detail but it has to do with state sovereignty and the economics and politics thereof. I can only imagine what kind of horrid, cut-throat, greed-soaked self-serving shite this rear end in a top hat is going to be on about. I would be concerned about the cuckoldry themes more than greed, to be quite honest.
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JustJeff88 posted:Talk about a place giving itself a bad name... I've seen flyers around the university that I work at about a talk to be given by a guy from George Mason university. I don't want to go into detail but it has to do with state sovereignty and the economics and politics thereof. I can only imagine what kind of horrid, cut-throat, greed-soaked self-serving shite this rear end in a top hat is going to be on about. Is it from the host of the Econ Log podcast?
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JustJeff88 posted:Talk about a place giving itself a bad name... I've seen flyers around the university that I work at about a talk to be given by a guy from George Mason university. I don't want to go into detail but it has to do with state sovereignty and the economics and politics thereof. I can only imagine what kind of horrid, cut-throat, greed-soaked self-serving shite this rear end in a top hat is going to be on about. George Mason's econ department is known for being a festering hole of Austrian school sympathizers and associated wackadoos.
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If the gold standard was reimplemented, what effect would that have on the price of gold? Considering the practical applications of gold it seems like it could have a really bad effect on the economy.
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White Coke posted:If the gold standard was reimplemented, what effect would that have on the price of gold? Considering the practical applications of gold it seems like it could have a really bad effect on the economy. Careful friend, it almost sounds like you're doubting the wisdom of the Free Market
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The Groper posted:Careful friend, it almost sounds like you're doubting the wisdom of the Free Market Freedom isn't free.
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White Coke posted:If the gold standard was reimplemented, what effect would that have on the price of gold? Considering the practical applications of gold it seems like it could have a really bad effect on the economy. Going by historic precedent, gold would probably become pretty valuable once the resulting post-apocalyptic civilization has managed to get back to the Bronze Age or thereabouts.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:George Mason's econ department is known for being a festering hole of Austrian school sympathizers and associated wackadoos. Sympathizers?
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Sympathizers? In recent years they've been trying to tone down the louder von Mises devotees because they realize it makes them look like idiots (understandably). However, I still see a number of things from econ professors there that tend to run in the "I'm not an Austrian economist, but [slavish justification for whatever element of Austrian economics is in question]."
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Captain_Maclaine posted:George Mason's econ department is known for being a festering hole of Austrian school sympathizers and associated wackadoos. I know; that's why I immediately knew that whatever he was on about would be utter shite. The flyer said he was also involved in the Free (something) Project, and as soon as I saw the word "free" I knew what kind of wretch I was dealing with. Isn't it amazing that libertarians are really into "free" in the sense of not being restricted or made to contribute in any way, but really hate "free" when it's used to mean "at no cost?"
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Captain_Maclaine posted:In recent years they've been trying to tone down the louder von Mises devotees because they realize it makes them look like idiots (understandably). However, I still see a number of things from econ professors there that tend to run in the "I'm not an Austrian economist, but [slavish justification for whatever element of Austrian economics is in question]." The joke is the idea that they're capable of sympathy
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JustJeff88 posted:I know; that's why I immediately knew that whatever he was on about would be utter shite. The flyer said he was also involved in the Free (something) Project, and as soon as I saw the word "free" I knew what kind of wretch I was dealing with. Was it Brian Caplan?
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JustJeff88 posted:I know; that's why I immediately knew that whatever he was on about would be utter shite. The flyer said he was also involved in the Free (something) Project, and as soon as I saw the word "free" I knew what kind of wretch I was dealing with. Was it the Free State Project? Please say it was the Free State Project.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Was it the Free State Project? Please say it was the Free State Project.
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JustJeff88 posted:I know; that's why I immediately knew that whatever he was on about would be utter shite. The flyer said he was also involved in the Free (something) Project, and as soon as I saw the word "free" I knew what kind of wretch I was dealing with. Freedom isn't free, Jeff. Freedom Isn't Free. Also, Captain_Maclaine posted:Was it the Free State Project? Please say it was the Free State Project.
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Any good YouTube of this "Free State Project" everyone seems to keep mentioning?
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WrenP-Complete posted:Any good YouTube of this "Free State Project" everyone seems to keep mentioning? I wanna say it's a Free Stater in that Chewbacca waving a Gadsden Flag behind a Ron Paul '08 image that Caros has as his avatar.
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WrenP-Complete posted:Any good YouTube of this "Free State Project" everyone seems to keep mentioning?  reason, only 2k of the 20k participants have actually moved.
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hirvox posted:It's a contract between libertarians. If enough people sign it, they all agree to move to New Hampshire and vote the statists out. They got all the signatures in February. But for some I think the contract gives them like 5 years to move.
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Golbez posted:My argument was: An abusive monopoly can only exist with the state. Any free market "monopoly" would have to be one that actually provided utility to its customers. For example: Standard Oil had close to a monopoly, but had to keep its prices dirt cheap because, if it tried to raise them, competitors would start flooding in. So, the consumer benefited from even the spectre of competition. Hah oh hey the we're at the elementry school level of understanding economics. Eventually once something gets to a certain size it can push smaller competing brands out of business by eating losses for a few years and lowering prices beyond someone's ability to compete, and thanks to economies of scale the losses won't even be a huge hit to the parent "Monopoly". This appears on the outside to be "Competition" driving the price down, and that's technically true, only the competition is going to be transient as hell. It takes a giant to fight a giant, and we have a lot of "Defacto" regional monopolies here in the US because of this.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I think the contract gives them like 5 years to move. Who enforces/litigates/arbitrates the contract? Valhalla DRO?
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It was indeed the Free State Project. I looked it up in a private browser window because I had a feeling this wasn't the sort of thing I would want in my history. My research lasted about 30 seconds before I felt dirty and had to go abase myself.
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I'm home sick from work, and this is about to be *amazing!* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxCNeK97_C8 E: Oh dear... E2: This was the image the first time taxes came up.  That's a bit on the nose.
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looking to read up on some of the arguments regarding healthcare....Any idea which pages I should go to?
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Shats Basoon posted:looking to read up on some of the arguments regarding healthcare....Any idea which pages I should go to? I think they are mostly between 175 and 250, but not positive. Hey girl hey!  E: And there's a Rich Paul too! E2: Banning some kinds of automation is a kind of freedom. E3: "I remember when bitcoin was just a tool for nerds." WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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WrenP-Complete posted:Hey girl hey! Objectivist Girl is the worst superhero.
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There are some old FreeKeene videos that are absolutely hilarious.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I think the contract gives them like 5 years to move. It also goes beyond the contract itself. The idea is to encourage libertarians to move there, contract or not, and use their voting power to take over. Then they'll abolish all taxes, minimize the state government, privatize everything there, and prosperity will follow. Which nobody else will be allowed to partake in because they'll buy all the land and not let anybody else in. Did the contract actually specify any penalties for those that don't go?
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Curvature of Earth posted:Objectivist Girl is the worst superhero. Oh, nope, there was someone who literally had "Dork" in his subtitle, I'll try to find it. Another worst superhero  And... 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It also goes beyond the contract itself. The idea is to encourage libertarians to move there, contract or not, and use their voting power to take over. Then they'll abolish all taxes, minimize the state government, privatize everything there, and prosperity will follow. Which nobody else will be allowed to partake in because they'll buy all the land and not let anybody else in. Apparently it's just a non-binding pledge actually. I was wrong. http://pledge.freestateproject.org/movetonh/
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I apologise in advance to any ladies in the thread because I know that it's sexist, but something about women libertarians and the like really wounds me far more than men - I'm honestly not sure why. Perhaps it's because I am inured to male stupidity but I'd like to think that women are better than that. I don't know why but in any event I'm not proud of it.
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