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Two Owls posted:"Boom goes the pylon!" I figured that was just a bug I encountered, but it happened on the next playthrough too so... uh...
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After the patch I don't gently caress understand how skill points are supposed to work in the second playthrough. Also if an enemy kills you you lose all the karma.  The nerf to crafting makes it grindier, like, wtf? It was nice to be able to progress using old junk, now I am at the first chapter of an higher level and I am getting trash I won't be able to use for crafting better stuff. I am too scared of dying to a rabbit and finding 100% money lost, I don't have good money sinks until crafting opens again...
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Oct 22, 2016 13:01
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Karma isn't money, karma is your experience pool. Karma nets you extra skill points.
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Oct 22, 2016 13:33
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InfinityComplex posted:Karma isn't money, karma is your experience pool. Karma nets you extra skill points. Pretty sure I have seen a 100% loss of money once somewhere other than 100% usual loss of karma (wtf? why?), but I may be mistaken.
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Oct 22, 2016 14:51
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limaCAT posted:100% usual loss of karma (wtf? why?) Why not? Adds to the challenge, which is kind of the point of things at higher difficulty. Sure it's kind of a gut punch when you get killed with a nearly full meter, but oh well, try not to get killed next time.
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Oct 22, 2016 17:33
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Losing experience is dumb as poo poo, the hell are they thinking? It should be just losing money if anything.
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Oct 22, 2016 17:37
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foozwak posted:Why not? Adds to the challenge, which is kind of the point of things at higher difficulty. Sure it's kind of a gut punch when you get killed with a nearly full meter, but oh well, try not to get killed next time. Oh well, after another session I realize that the game just compensates by throwing gems at you, and that the game system is too limited for expressing "loss" so it may be the only way it could be designed. But nothing impedes me to play conservatively and just bore me to tedium while squishing lower level mobs instead of going  on and doing the reasonable act of getting gud.
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Oct 22, 2016 18:06
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No matter what you think about SW2's story compared to SW1's story, the fact is that They deserve it though. The gameplay still kicks rear end (with the exception of the god drat loot mechanics) and the devs are great. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 18:07
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Yeah, they do. They've also said that they're planning on releasing free content in the future, like a challenge mode and new missions.
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Oct 22, 2016 18:37
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Jack Trades posted:No matter what you think about SW2's story compared to SW1's story, the fact is that One man's opinion a fact does not make. The game is good but weaker than its predecessor and as much as I like Shadow Warrior 2, I can't gloss over... - I climbed the same tower 4 times in this game for separate missions. (The first one felt more flowing and different area to area.) - The game is 12 hours long with all side quests done. - There is no motivation for exploration (actually it's detrimental to do so.) - The story is quite disjointed and weaker than the flow of its predecessor. ( Goddess of tears in the first game becomes a nymphomaniac in this game and the primary Villan.) The game is great otherwise.
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Oct 22, 2016 21:08
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Getting upgrades and sometimes weapons isn't motivation for exploration? What?
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Oct 22, 2016 21:28
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Is there an easy way to tell what kind of ammo a gun uses without trial and error? Some are pretty obvious (no poo poo a rocket launcher is going to use rockets) but some are a little more vague (does a plasma grenade launcher use grenades or plasma?) My gimmick all-future weapons build when I'm doing a Zilla City level could use some more ammo diversity.
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Oct 22, 2016 21:30
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ninjahedgehog posted:Is there an easy way to tell what kind of ammo a gun uses without trial and error? Some are pretty obvious (no poo poo a rocket launcher is going to use rockets) but some are a little more vague (does a plasma grenade launcher use grenades or plasma?) My gimmick all-future weapons build when I'm doing a Zilla City level could use some more ammo diversity. Hover over the weapon in your Equipped inventory tab and look at the bottom-left of the screen.
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Oct 22, 2016 21:33
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ninjahedgehog posted:Is there an easy way to tell what kind of ammo a gun uses without trial and error? Some are pretty obvious (no poo poo a rocket launcher is going to use rockets) but some are a little more vague (does a plasma grenade launcher use grenades or plasma?) My gimmick all-future weapons build when I'm doing a Zilla City level could use some more ammo diversity. I usually get the info from the weapon info itself. Some shotguns, for example, will have an energy or plasma symbol.
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Oct 22, 2016 21:46
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ninjahedgehog posted:Is there an easy way to tell what kind of ammo a gun uses without trial and error? Some are pretty obvious (no poo poo a rocket launcher is going to use rockets) but some are a little more vague (does a plasma grenade launcher use grenades or plasma?) My gimmick all-future weapons build when I'm doing a Zilla City level could use some more ammo diversity. The Weapons tab shows you with a little symbol in the weapon stat block.
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Oct 22, 2016 22:00
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Accordion Man posted:Losing experience is dumb as poo poo, the hell are they thinking? I'd rather lose exp than money if I gently caress up and die because a single skill point effectively doesn't matter past a certain point whereas making lots of money for forging or buying good mods takes quite a lot of time. I can mash my way through selling like 100 mods and barely make half a million.
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Oct 22, 2016 22:11
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Digirat posted:Getting upgrades and sometimes weapons isn't motivation for exploration? What? Unless I missed something, I get more skill points by just going straight the objective and finishing the quest asap. What upgrades are you referring to?
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Oct 22, 2016 22:50
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Malek posted:Unless I missed something, I get more skill points by just going straight the objective and finishing the quest asap. What upgrades are you referring to? The first time. The only way beyond that is with Karma.
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Oct 22, 2016 23:11
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Malek posted:Unless I missed something, I get more skill points by just going straight the objective and finishing the quest asap. What upgrades are you referring to? The weapon upgrades that pop out of almost every enemy and box nonstop. Also money, and even if those weren't there and all you got was karma for killing things, that would be enough because the action is really fun and easily the best thing about the game. There's not a lot of entirely unique content to find other than the boss on each sidequest, but saying it's detrimental to explore makes no sense.
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Oct 22, 2016 23:22
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Malek posted:Unless I missed something, I get more skill points by just going straight the objective and finishing the quest asap. What upgrades are you referring to? Every single level has a unique boss with a giant skull logo (which you get an achievement for beating), and the bosses have a great chance to drop new guns on top of fabulous regular loot. The bosses tend to only be available in the original missions, not Free Roam, so if you missed any on your first run, you can get them on your second. Some of the bosses are pretty tucked away in the level with the objective about halfway in, so if you just keep moving forward through demons, you'll generally find them without fuss (while also learning some of the pieces in the random level generator fairly well). EDIT: The new Insanity difficulties (unlocked at level 31+)really aren't messing around - Insanity 2+ is cranking the early New Game+ loot back up to mid-late game level quality, but the enemies hit like a truck and there's a lot more elites around. I've switched over to the second life medal while figuring out how to optimize the gun build, since damage auras everywhere is a huge pain. Might be worth respeccing to the aura reduction - can't just coast on raw DPS. 40 Proof Listerine fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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Oct 23, 2016 00:47
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The only thing I think I would change about the game is a greatly simplified loot system - I don't need twelve bazillion different kinda of modifications, especially when they're each actually a double or triple modification so it becomes double confusing when each one does two things. It's a huge pain in the rear end to keep track of, especially when modifications can apply to many (bot not ALL) of the weapons. And then you've got 8 weapons and 3 slots each, it's just so much data to keep track of. Basically, everyone pretty much just slots the same type of upgrades into a weapon to give it the best bonuses. It'll either be all "+Crit Damage" or all "+ Elemental Damage" or maybe even all "+Ammo save chance". If 90% of the players are just going to stack the same kind of upgrade, why not just have a single upgrade slot, and a single upgrade that does the same thing that 3 of them would do anyway? I do appreciate the sheer amount of player control over tweaking their weapons, but it takes so long to modify my weapons, and there's so MANY loving weapons and upgrades to contend with! I'd much prefer to just have a couple of choice of fire modes/upgrade paths for each weapon that I could buy or purchase on my own, rather than sift through a sea of upgrades with bizarre names and compounding or conflicting bonuses. Maybe even make it so that I can switch between the modes on the fly if I've purchased them. For example, I can walk into the shoot shack, choose one of my weapons, and see what options I've got: Pistols
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That's just a few off the top of my head, let me head to the gun shack and just choose which upgrade I want to slot into my gun, and if I've purchased more than one then just let me hit a button to switch fire modes in game. If you want elemental stuff, that should just be a separate thing entirely at the forge that does a flat conversion, with upgrades becoming progressively more expensive in order to convert more of your damage to that element. I really appreciate the sheer variety of options and control that the player has for each weapon and the ability to tweak their play style, but to be honest probably 50% of my play time was spent in menus sifting through a billion upgrades, when I should have been gibbing the gently caress out of some demons. McKilligan fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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Oct 23, 2016 06:15
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ok got all 70 weapons in the game so the golden skin ones or w/e don't count towards that total the two guns most people that ended with 68 were missing were probably: Ryuken sword from the final boss which is now patched to give you when you beat it instead of as a drop Jigoku pistol or Ghidorah twin melee which are a mutually exclusive choice from a quest right near the end of the game, the one you don't choose doesn't pop up in the store after so you have to complete the quest twice to get both
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Oct 23, 2016 06:19
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McKilligan posted:
After the first playthrough I learned that if you junk gems they would disappear from the weapons gem selection but not from crafting. Also I use dmg up and large creature dmg up on revolvers because they are the best for hitting large and slow creatures like herculons, zl-209 and most bosses.
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40 Proof Listerine posted:Every single level has a unique boss with a giant skull logo (which you get an achievement for beating), and the bosses have a great chance to drop new guns on top of fabulous regular loot. The bosses tend to only be available in the original missions, not Free Roam, so if you missed any on your first run, you can get them on your second. Nope, the bosses are absolutely hanging around in free roam. (emphasis mine)
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Also I use crit chance and crit power up on shotguns, helps me cleaning up rooms full of floaters.
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Oct 23, 2016 06:34
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Looks like there's a bug, maybe introduced by the patch; I'm on the mission to meet Kamiko's dad and the "Shenlong" grenade launcher dropped by the miniboss causes the entire game to lock up and I have to force it to quit. 
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Oct 23, 2016 07:12
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limaCAT posted:After the first playthrough I learned that if you junk gems they would disappear from the weapons gem selection but not from crafting. Given the fact that there aren't any "levels" to enemies or weapons, I don't think +DMG should have been an upgrade choice. Seems like something you could easily design around.
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Oct 23, 2016 07:18
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Can't say enough good about this game's graphics and especially its optimization. There's a lot of good looking games but they're optimized like trash so they never look as good as they could, even on newer GPUs. But this game runs at 60 FPS with graphics maxed for me, which is amazing.
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+1 Solid 60FPS at 1440p with max everything, looks beautiful (esp. when it's raining) and GPU usage barely ever goes above 70%. It's amazing. Had our first co-op session yesterday, it worked fine, even if ragdoll physics were janky. Does anyone know how quest reward options are handled for clients? I assume they just get whatever the host picks.
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Hell, this game is optimized so well that the only way I can even get it to dip below perfectly smooth frames is to double the rendering resolution so that I'm technically playing at 4K 
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Oct 23, 2016 13:09
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^^^ For shits and giggles, I tried playing it on a Skylake iGPU and it's just about playable at 768p at low quality. Malek posted:One man's opinion a fact does not make. I got the sound issue resolved with the latest GPU drivers, somehow, but now most of this is starting to seriously bug me after a few more hours of gameplay. The missions are mostly pretty anonymous fetch quests, the maps are repetitive and half-empty, and monsters as spongy as ever - the gems are pretty useless and don't do poo poo, generally. The combat mechanics are pretty good themselves though, but I really would prefer if they just dropped the rpg bullshit altogether.
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Oct 23, 2016 16:45
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So the frustrating thing in this game is there are only 8 hotbar weapons. You know what would be awesome? A button that would cycle through any non-hotbar weapons with full gems. Make it key 9. Then you could pick a few weapons to try out without having to set and re-set your hotbar. Or when you got a new weapon you could just gem it up and try it out without having to screw with your hotbar.
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Oct 23, 2016 17:32
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I'm envisioning a fun gimmick mode where you never reload or switch weapons (except for maybe fast-swapping to the katana), but once you empty a magazine the game automatically equips a random gun from your inventory.
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Oct 23, 2016 17:37
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ninjahedgehog posted:I'm envisioning a fun gimmick mode where you never reload or switch weapons (except for maybe fast-swapping to the katana), but once you empty a magazine the game automatically equips a random gun Why limit yourself?
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Oct 23, 2016 17:54
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They should just let you put multiple guns on the same number so repeat presses of that number cycle through whatever you've put on it.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:10
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So is it just me or do you take elemental damage just by coming into physical contact with elemental enemies? Because I am pretty confident that they are not hitting me while I chainsaw them while gripped, and yet I am taking damage.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:47
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thejacob posted:So is it just me or do you take elemental damage just by coming into physical contact with elemental enemies? Most enemies that are resistant to a damage type have a damage aura, yes. You'll take e.g. fire damage by standing next to an enemy that's on fire.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:51
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Which is a real pain when you run into enemies like elemental spiders which make it their goal to crawl up your rear end in a top hat and hang out there. Or those exploding bug guys that explode into a damage over time attack when they're imbued with an element.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:55
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did I screw up a mission ? doing the one where I'm supposed to get dual wield assault rifles as a reward, did the objedtive then explored a bit and died. went back to town and there's no way to talk to the quest giver, the mission shows as complete but I didnt get anything. also I'm refusing to patch and using a the autoreload combined with making every gun into a single shot/super fast firing clip. it's hilarious
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Ah, auras would explain it. Pretty lovely imho for a game that is at least 75% about cutting poo poo up, but you can't have it all I guess. At least I have elemental shield to stop the actual debuffs.
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